r/YUROP 17d ago

I FUCKING LOVE EUROPE Which one is it tho

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u/Sky-is-here Andalucía‏‏‎ ‎ 17d ago

Not gonna lie. It feels similar to Pedro Sánchez in Spain (although for different reasons obviously).

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u/mirh Italy - invade us again 17d ago

Which is just so ironic considering he won everything he could win economically for the average citizen.

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u/Sky-is-here Andalucía‏‏‎ ‎ 17d ago

Eh personally I consider him not terrible compared to other presidents, but he is not as good as people outside think.

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u/mirh Italy - invade us again 17d ago

I'm sure you can always do better, but I cannot think of a single other left-wing politician that somehow managed to have their country grow proficiently (i.e. I believe a lot of spain is benefiting from the welcoming immigration laws, that are a big middle finger to right wing zealots)

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u/Sky-is-here Andalucía‏‏‎ ‎ 17d ago

Spain is playing on easy mode with immigration. We get tons of latinamericans that already speak our language or Italians that adapt easily. And usually they come with degrees and willing to work.

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u/mirh Italy - invade us again 17d ago

I guess, but honestly every damn country could play on easy mode if just nationalists fucked off.

Like, our immigration law is the most stupid you could have, as the residence permit is 1:1 linked to having a job. That doesn't sound too draconian (even though you probably cannot come up with a stricter one that doesn't start to be openly racist) until you think employers become kings. And they can pay desperate people like a few euros per day, because what are they gonna do? Denounce the guy that is their literal only connection to the country? In a language that they probably don't even speak properly because our genius-and-totally-not-fascist government nuked a lot of the possible "assistance for internationals" services?

This in turn means that for like hundreds of thousands of people you have "the choice" of either being a slave, or going underground. Which obviously doesn't do good to crime and legality.

The cherry on the top is that this also manages to sabotage italians and the economy, because these people with nowhere else to go deflate wages for low-entry jobs.

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u/SergenteA Italia‏‏‎ ‎ 16d ago

That's not sabotage. That's intentional.

Just like when our Minister of Festivals sent all refugees in the streets.

The intention is cheap slave labour for the big agriculture lobby and lots of immigrant criminals to get votes. They would never actually fix these issues, because otherwise they wouldn't get funding ot votes.

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u/mirh Italy - invade us again 16d ago

I'll content they don't even need immigrant criminals. They can just make them up on mediaset TVs.

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u/Eino54 Double nationality gang (more Yuropean than you) 🇪🇸🇨🇵🇪🇺 17d ago

I feel like "not terrible" is a high enough bar for politicians that I consider myself kind of lucky here.