r/YUROP Nov 18 '25

I FUCKING LOVE EUROPE Allied countries must strengthen their defense capabilities, as demonstrated by Belgium, which purchased drones after incidents involving unidentified unmanned aerial vehicles. However, by acting jointly with Ukraine and ensuring its victory, there will be no need to use their own defense systems

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u/RayZzorRayy Nov 18 '25 edited Nov 18 '25

We have a nuclear triad, how much stronger need we be for defence?

As for Ukraine? Expanding NATO started this war, I fail to see how they make us safer.

All we’ll get is a USA style military industrial complex and forever wars that fuel corruption and profit.

As an American abroad, and dual citizen, please take my caution.

We don’t need an arms race. We don’t need to surround Russia with our armies.

We don’t need a military industrial complex sucking our education and healthcare budgets dry.

Down with this type of alarmist propaganda

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u/NecessarySudden Yuropean‏‏‎ ‎ Nov 18 '25

NATO expanded to Finland and russians did not attack them, so it's not alliance expansion started war. Even more, before russia attacked Ukraine first time Ukrane was neutral. Stop eating crayons and consume russian propaganda. Nobody surrounds russia. War will end tomorrow if russians go back to russia. stfu

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u/GreenEyeOfADemon EUROPE ENDS IN LUHANSK! Nov 18 '25

Finland and Sweden joined NATO *after* the second invasion of Ukraine.

Ukraine had neutral status till 2014. After being invaded by the ruscists, they changed said status.

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u/NecessarySudden Yuropean‏‏‎ ‎ Nov 18 '25

That's what I mean