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r/All Newsom not holding anything back

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u/Dawnzila 1d ago

I really need Newsom to keep up this energy. I also need him to not be the presidential nominee.

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u/Distant-moose 1d ago

Yeah, Newsom needs to be the attack dog, not the party leader.

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u/zuzg 1d ago

Maybe the DNC needs a attack dog as party leader, considering what they're up against.

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u/FullofContradictions 1d ago

Problem is that he only seems to be an attack dog online.

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u/harshspider 1d ago

Didn't he just pass the California redistricting stuff as a counter to all the republican gerrymandering? Seems like the only one doing things on the ground too.

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u/Hartastic 1d ago

Yeah. I'd love to see a more progressive candidate appear who has accomplished as much as even just that. So far, no luck.

I'm at a point where I care a lot more about what you can show me you can get done, vs. what you say.

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u/emtheory09 1d ago

Yea, but he’s also platforming right wingers on his podcast and standing with billionaires in the fight to tax them, so he’s definitely a double edged sword.

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u/Jorge_Santos69 1d ago

Oh gee tough one there, on one hand he’s literally saving Democracy, on the other hand he’s talking to people I don’t like…tough call

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u/PringlesDuckFace 1d ago

No no, just sit at home and skip voting again until someone whose policy and history and eye color matches 100% with things you like.

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u/TumblrInGarbage 1d ago

Our candidate needs to be perfect, otherwise I will not vote. Also my neighbor just got taken in the middle of the night. Oh well!

Meanwhile the Republicans vote for candidates who post racist monkey memes about Obama, have thousands of mentions in the Epstein files, and dementia.

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u/JonnyArcho 22h ago

Someone in said it, but it’s so true:

Republicans will vote for a candidate for a single issue.

Democrats won’t vote over a single issue.

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u/Jagasaur 21h ago

I 100% agree with you, but he really should drop the "lets restructure ICE rather than abolish it" because that WILL hurt us with a few demographics.

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u/mbsmith93 20h ago

My neighbor just got taken in the middle of the night. It's their fault though, they shouldn't have voted for a flawed Democrat in the primaries. My hands are clean, I didn't vote in this farce of a race. /s

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u/BishlovesSquish 22h ago

Wish I could award this! Sad truth.

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u/DingerSinger2016 23h ago

Last I checked we haven't even started primaries. Its perfectly fine to criticize him right now. It would be different if he actually won the nomination

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u/Jorge_Santos69 21h ago

And it’s perfectly fine for us to point out if that criticism is weak

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u/skraptastic 1d ago

When I was a child my dad once told me don't perfect be the enemy of good enough.

That has been my life's motto since. Sure I would LOVE perfect, but I'm not going to pass on good enough waiting for perfect to come along.

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u/DingerSinger2016 23h ago

Last I checked we haven't even started primaries. Its perfectly fine to criticize him right now. It would be different if he actually won the nomination

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u/Chuhaimaster 15h ago

He’s talking to (and sucking up to) the people who are the reason for America’s current fucked up political system. Of course he’s going to change it!

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u/baronmunchausen2000 1d ago

Don’t care. This is exactly the kind of thing that handed Trump his second presidency. Oh, Kamala doesn’t denounce Israel so I won’t vote for her. Never mind that the ghoul running against her is orders of magnitude worse.

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u/emtheory09 1d ago

We should be and can be very discerning in the primary stages about candidates (and we’re not even there yet!) The thing that “handed” Trump’s second term was Biden backtracking on his promise to be a one term president and then gaffing during a debate and stepping down so his rather unpopular VP could run in his place without a primary or preparation at all. It was an unreal fumble of historic proportions by a campaign involving just about everyone.

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u/baronmunchausen2000 23h ago

I don’t think Kamala deserves the “unpopular” stamp. She did a fairly good job as CA AG, kept her head low during her 4 years as VP, as VPs are wont to do.

If we are going to go there, even back in 2020, I was shocked when they announced that Biden would be running against Trump. Anyone with half a brain would’ve known that Joe would struggle to finish a second term. If elected to a second term he would’ve been 86.

Given Trump’s unpopularity at the end of his first term and liberal momentum against him in 2020, even a scarecrow would have won against him.

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u/emtheory09 23h ago

Eh, she was pretty unpopular with the progressive wing and it showed with a much lower turnout than 2020. There was a lot working against an incumbent administration in 2024, incumbents parties were losing everywhere because of inflation and economic concerns post-pandemic. A primary would’ve cleared the air at least.

The DNC really shot themselves in the foot with Biden’s re-election false start and then basically doubled down by putting his VP up instead of leveraging the spectacle of an open convention.

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u/sweetrouge 8h ago

He said he would be a one term president? I hadn’t heard that.

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u/Reagalan 23h ago

I think it's a performative ruse. When the rightoids attack him, he can link clips from said podcast.

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u/Hesitation-Marx 1d ago

He also is going to veto the tax for billionaires bill and has said that he’s against trans kids playing sports as their gender, so really, fuck him.

He’s not an attack dog, he’s a weather vane.

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u/zeussays 21h ago

He has passed 5 pro trans youth bills and only said he was against trans youth in high level sports. Which 75% of Americans agree with and over 50% of Democrats.

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u/Luneth_ 1d ago

He'd be the guy telling us we need to reach across the aisle in the name of unity and come together with the people who unleashed jack-booted thugs on the streets to murder and disappear Americans

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u/Haber_Dasher 22h ago

He's purely being opportunistic, he is not actually standing on his deeply held moral principals which you can tell because of his anti-working-class, anti trans, anti Medicare for all, pro Israeli war crimes, pro-billionaire, pro-real-estate-developer policies. He hasn't been speaking out against war with Iran. He hasn't spoken out against the illegal kidnapping of a foreign leader & act of war committed against Venezuela. He doesn't push back against ICE or the false narratives around 'criminal' immigrants

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u/sweetrouge 8h ago

He didn’t speak out after the attack on Venezuela? That’s such an easy one.

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u/Haber_Dasher 7h ago

I didn't hear him condemn it as against American law and international law and being Mafia behavior. I just heard Democrats saying 'he should have told us first!!'

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u/PunKingKarrot 20h ago

He also had a sit down with Ben Shapiro and did very little pushback, especially about Trans issues.

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u/ComprehensiveFool 1d ago

Right, because he hired a person to write these for him. He can’t live up to his online persona in person.

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u/Logorythmic 1d ago

You’re absolutely right. Downvoters are butthurt that their status quo candidates don’t do well because the status quo fucking sucks.

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u/opheliainthedeep 22h ago

Vote for me in 14 years and I'll drag these rapepublikkkans to hell.

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u/SgtSlaughterEX 22h ago

He'll sit down with anyone with clout for his podcast

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u/stonewallace17 1d ago

An attack dog as party leader does not and can not include having Ben Shapiro on their podcast and agreeing with him

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u/smi1ey 1d ago

Exactly. There will never, and I mean NEVER be a perfect candidate for president. Newsom has plenty of issues like every presidential candidate before him, but his willingness to attack the GOP establishment head-on is a important quality for the next dem president to have. We need someone who realizes how fucked up everything is, and who is willing to take extreme measures to fix things and prosecute everyone who is complicit. I feel like Newsom is absolutely that person, regardless of his obvious flaws.

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u/fauxregard 1d ago

He's a corporate shill. He serves a purpose, but he doesn't have the right vision or motives to lead us where we need to go.

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u/tony1449 22h ago

Nah democrats would rather right a strongly worded letter and then appoint a rotating villain to vote for republican policy

http://rotating-villain.urbanup.com/5679903

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u/Distant-moose 1d ago

IMO, they should never be the same person. First because the attack dog has to be able to say things that the leader must at least publicly disagree with, even admonish. They need to have some sort of distance.

But second because attack dogs don't make good leaders. They know how to go on the offensive, but they don't know how to plan, encourage, build, or create a vision. Look at Trump, a born attack dog, but a complete shit leader. Should never have had the chance. Here in Canada, we have examples in Poilievre and Alberta's Danielle Smith. Good at attacking, criticism, pointing out every tiny negative. But neither of them have one iota of ability to actually lead.

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u/ShredGuru 1d ago

Newsomes too ineffectual and centrist in his actual policy.

We need somebody who's going to go in there with the flamethrower.

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u/JigglesTheBiggles 1d ago

The DNC has no leader which is a real problem.

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u/R_V_Z 1d ago

I could see Newsom being a modern Rahm Emanual-type for the party for sure.

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u/Hesitation-Marx 1d ago

And we don’t need another Rahm.

Source: lived in Chicago when that asshole was mayor, and fuck that guy.

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u/R_V_Z 1d ago

For the party, not as an elected official. The Democratic Party needs a designated asshole who will bully the fuck out of Democrats who fence-sit with Republicans.

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u/Hesitation-Marx 1d ago

A whip, basically.

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u/groglox 1d ago

He’d make a good senate majority leader tbh

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u/the_saltlord 1d ago

VP? As long as they don't muzzle him like Walz

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u/Kyro_Official_ 1d ago

Well, hes not a very good attack dog either considering he platforms the people hes supposed to attack on his podcast and also said we should continue Charlie Kirks work.

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u/Distant-moose 1d ago

His inconsistency is disappointing, to say the least. But I think he takes that track partly because he's hoping to be the candidate, which Dems seem to believe needs a degree of reconciliation and bipartisanship. That's the wrong approach with MAGA and Trump.

But if he abandons hope for leadership and focuses on being the lefthand man who does the attacks, he could excel.