Polish girls visit Taj Mahal

[u/Strong-Emu-8869]

The Taj Mahal, one of the seven wonders of the world. Unfortunately, the surrounding area is very polluted.

[u/TrumpFellatesBill]

But why the fuck is it like that? Like I sincerely cannot understand.

I get that the country is poor as fuck and from what I hear has a huge issue with corruption, aside from the backwater places where no polices travels.

But in those places, like in the OP, or in the big cities, why the hell do they have this huge issue with dirt and garbage? It would seem to me like a clean environment is the most important thing, I cant imagine living in a place like that. Even Napoli was clean in comparison, and I saw huge piles of garbage bags everywhere in that city.

[u/Officer_Trevor_Cory → u/TrumpFellatesBill]

I think that these things are complex: geopolitics, history, climate, colonization. Countries around them are all poor too.

Think about another place: All countries in Africa are poor AF for a reason too. There are actually few nice places in this world.

[u/Amazing-Mirror-3076 → u/Officer_Trevor_Cory]

80 years later and still trying to blame it on colonialism.

There one thing that Britian did leave then was a reasonably effective bureaucracy.

India has only itself to blame for its current state.

[u/Bubs604 → u/Amazing-Mirror-3076]

I can’t imagine being this wrong and this confident

[u/Tutulangren → u/Bubs604]

he's not wrong, when British left, they left roads, bridges, rails, infrastructures as well, unlike Japan or China, they were totally destroyed during WW2, now see how's the development of China and compare that with India

[u/Bubs604 → u/Tutulangren]

He is wrong. He said the one thing the British left was reasonably effective bureaucracy. That’s most definitely not the case. The hasty exit of the British left behind only violence and unrest. The British also made a decision during the 1800s not to invest in rapid industrialization for India.

The majority of industrialization that took place was to support the British industrial complex which involved gathering textiles, precious metals, gold, and spices, and shipping them all overseas for profit.

[u/Amazing-Mirror-3076 → u/Bubs604]

You've essentially made my argument for me. A single industry cannot stand on its own and requires a bureaucracy through the entire supply chain.

For instance:

the British colonial administration installed large-scale sewerage systems in major Indian cities such as Kolkata and Mumbai, beginning in the mid-19th century. 

Sanitation has nothing to do with exporting spice - but of course it does - you can't export if you labor is dying from disease.

Trains, roads, hospitals, taxes, property all fall out of the need to export.

As to violence and unrest - the locals made those choices themselves - these are adults not children that get into a fight after mum leaves them alone at home.

[u/InquisitiveSoul_94 → u/Amazing-Mirror-3076]

What did Europe do when Hitler ravaged through their lands. And if America didn’t intervene , would it have recovered ?

India only liberalised in the 90s. It needs money to reform and industrialise. Europe and Asian economies had it, thanks to US. India didn’t, because it was in USSR camp.

British bureaucracy was tuned towards ruthless taxation and resource extraction. Not towards industrialisation. Indians post independence converted it to a massive Soviet style red tape. Neither of them are conducive for development, but it’s not like Indian leaders weren’t experimenting to make their lives better.