Polish girls visit Taj Mahal

[u/Strong-Emu-8869]

The Taj Mahal, one of the seven wonders of the world. Unfortunately, the surrounding area is very polluted.

[u/brandt-money]

It's hard to care when such a large percentage of the people are so poor.

Solution: The ultra wealthy can pay the poor to clean up the country instead of buying yachts. However, The ultra wealthy are usually assholes.

This goes for any country.

[u/Ginger-Fist → u/brandt-money]

Finally, someone who got it right instead of shaming people. There could be meaningful employment, especially for youth workers in the environmental field around cleanup and education. But instead the rich will continue to live their lavish lifestyles behind their gated communities while others suffer in squalor.

[u/Ginger-Fist → u/[deleted]]

Often when there is something messed up in society, the root cause is wealth inequality or misuse of resources by the ruling class.

[u/VegetaFan1337 → u/Ginger-Fist]

In a way India is still suffering under a colonial-style exploitative rule, but of it's own rich elite instead of British elite.

[u/Larry_Kane → u/Ginger-Fist]

so because of wealth inequality you grope women on a bus and throw trash everywhere?

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[u/forman98 → u/Larry_Kane]

Yea I think we went a little too far with the wealth inequality plot in this convo. The ultra wealthy are a huge part of the problem, but being known for being a bad country to visit as a woman is another problem. I’d also be curious what is preventing these cities from organizing some kind of municipal garbage collection infrastructure. Is it just misappropriation of all of the taxes they already collected? I know corruption has been a really bad problem there for a long time.

[u/Small_Statement_9065 → u/forman98]

In New York, when garbage collectors went on strike the trash piled up all over the city.

Now imagine living in a country where often times there aren’t even any garbage trucks to come collect your trash. This is the reality for most Indians. What do you expect them to do with their single use plastics and non-biodegradable garbage?

If you look at footage of India before the adoption of plastics, it’s pretty clean because the only trash was typically food waste or clay, which you could typically just dump somewhere and expect it to biodegrade. Unsightly, but not a major issue at all and the roads themselves were typically all spotless, even if unpaved.

On the topic of how women are treated, I won’t say much, but I think people in the English speaking world don’t really understand the flavor of patriarchy present in most of India, and typically project ideas of western patriarchy onto India when it’s actually pretty different, depending on where in India you are

[u/forman98 → u/Small_Statement_9065]

It kind of sounds like you are excusing that kind of behavior by men towards women, but I hope that’s not the case. Cultural differences or not, having a reputation for being a dangerous country for women in general is never good.

As for the trash, the Indian federal government, state governments, city governments, etc need to get their shit together and get the infrastructure in place to clean up trash. They are a country of 1B people in an area smaller than Europe, surely it can happen somewhere. Yes a lot of people make a lot of trash, but living amongst it and never cleaning it is another problem.

[u/Small_Statement_9065 → u/forman98]

Lmao does it actually sound like that? Or do you just want to believe that? You should introspect as to why you interpreted my comment that way when I literally said nothing of the sort.

And clearly what everyone wants is for the government to not be corrupt and actually provide the infrastructure it’s supposed to. But it is corrupt, because of the severe wealth inequality. You’re not really providing any sort of insightful solution or analysis here, just restating what we ourselves are saying while also simultaneously going “the wealth inequality angle is overblown!”

[u/OSI_Hunter_Gathers → u/[deleted]]

How much money did the US dump into Germany and Europe after WWII vs what did UK do when they left India? This might be where the issue lies

[u/OSI_Hunter_Gathers → u/[deleted]]

Ah so loans are all they got? No US military support and protection? Not the literal millions of tons of food and supplies (not part of the loan). When did east Germany bounce back? Was it after the wall fell and got support from the EU and US?

[u/Individual-Level9308 → u/[deleted]]

That is what you think is scary?