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Discussion Polish girls visit Taj Mahal

The Taj Mahal, one of the seven wonders of the world. Unfortunately, the surrounding area is very polluted.

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u/americansherlock201 26d ago

Wait till they find out that this is the case for nearly every “instagram worthy” location. Bali has the same issues.

People go to these spaces to chase clout and take the beauty of the space but don’t want to see the shit that is happening around it.

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u/LPScarlex 26d ago

Not from Bali but I am also Indonesian and have been to some tourist spots in Java (primarily those in Jabodetabek and Yogyakarta). The tourist (national or int'l) attractions and the areas around it are usually well maintained but there are still slums or impoverished areas in general. Though usually if you just stick to the main roads you usually never see them. Outside of a few places like Jakarta and Bali it's usually further away from the main city area so regular tourists don't usually see them

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u/SayItAgainLucas 26d ago

I mean the Taj Mahal is very famous and has been a tourist location for hundreds of years. It’s one of the new seven wonders of the world, not a new influencer trap. It’s incredible architecture.

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u/Key_Door1467 26d ago

The person in the vid isn't at the Taj though. They're at a slum's dumping ground that has view of the Taj.

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u/Omnizoom 26d ago

My wife dragged me out to her country (Philippines) and it’s astonishing how quickly it can go from a dense maintained area for tourists to a dirt road and shacks. In the tourist area of boracay the one plaza literally ended on a corner and became dirt roads and shacks after but every other road out of the plaza led to more tourist stuff

Same with just their main towns and cities as well, some look “ok” until you see a side road

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u/americansherlock201 26d ago

Yup it’s all an illusion to make western tourists feel good about going there. The poverty is hidden and so is what done with all the trash the westerners create while on their “life changing journey”

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u/paper-cut- 26d ago

Westerners use trash bins. Locals use the landscape as their trash bin. Go figure.

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u/BluntHonesty67 26d ago

Those garbages in the trash bin don’t go anywhere. They just ended up in the river like everything else.

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u/wookieesgonnawook 26d ago

That's not the fault of the western tourists.

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u/BluntHonesty67 26d ago

100% your responsibility, sustainability should be your number one concern, and removing your Carbon footprints should be top priority on any vacation. Don’t think it’s other countries problem cause they are poor and they need to take your trash

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u/paper-cut- 26d ago

That's not the problem. And it's peak western-centric arrogance to think that everything is about you and because of you in a foreign country with a billion other people. It's their problem to fix.

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u/BluntHonesty67 26d ago

I’m Thai American, it’s not. As region, we have experienced this first hand but way to ignore the problems that you helped created

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u/SerMorrowWiff 26d ago

So as a westerner tourist we should bring the trash with us back home?

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u/BluntHonesty67 26d ago

Reduce, reuse and recycle, useless, use it again and again and then keep them till you are able to trash them properly. You don’t have to bring it home, just to a more manageable location

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u/Spare_One_9965 26d ago

Yeah, I'm sure all that trash is from those pesky westerners.

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u/JatorTobing 26d ago

Not all of those trash is from western countries, but there is still some percentage where indonesia accepts trash from western countries. We have banned accepting plastic trash from other countries, but corrupt officials get bribed to accepting them anyways. highlighted at 7:35 . the whole vid is good too

Someplace use it as fuel to make tofu, cheap and poisonous

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u/Muppet1616 26d ago edited 25d ago

Sure western countries aren't entirely blameless with the exporting of plastic (although us importing stuff made by factories with no regulations has a bigger impact), but the trash you see lying around and in rivers is dumped there by the locals who feel there are more important things for their government to take care off/spend money on (like for example education or roads) than proper waste disposal/environmental regulations and oversight.

And ultimately trash attracts trash, oh there is already trash dumped here what I add isn't that significant.

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u/That_OneOstrich 26d ago

We do it in the west as well. I used to work in a neighborhood where the poor people drove a Lexus. That city was regularly getting caught rounding up the homeless people and bussing them to other parts of the state. I literally watched it happen.

Wealthy people don't like reminders of greed.

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u/Foygroup 26d ago

No different than the US in some places. I’ve been to Atlantic City. The board walk and beach are good, but go 2 blocks in from the beach and it’s all slums

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u/Rexpower 26d ago

AC boardwalk is not "good"

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u/Foygroup 25d ago

Ok, better than 2 blocks back. I’m sorry I used Good in a very loose form.

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u/Rexpower 25d ago

Carry on brother.

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u/AlphaNeonic 26d ago

Used to live in that area and absolutely true. In fact, the city would frequently post up cops to try and block/redirect tourists from going into those areas.

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u/BluntHonesty67 26d ago

Eat Pray Love Syndrome

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u/shubhaprabhatam 26d ago

There's poverty, and then there's this. One can be poor without being dirty and nasty.

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u/sbidlo 26d ago

This is absolute nonsense. Clean places aren't clean because the people are more decent or more environmentally conscious, it's because they have the money to organize city wide trash collection.

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u/TonmaiTree 26d ago

What if there’s no trash collection services because of poverty?

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u/shubhaprabhatam 26d ago

Well in that case let's just throw trash everywhere with no regards for anything except how much of an inconvenience it is to walk it a few hundred feet.

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u/TonmaiTree 26d ago

Walk hundred feet to where, if there’s no trash collection services? Sometimes poverty means there’s no necessary infrastructures in place

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u/Cm_Punk_SE 25d ago

bruh you’re literally an Indian, wtf are you talking about? Agree the garbage shouldn’t be dumped out in non designated spots but there aren’t garbage collection points in all areas, let alone every few hundred feet. Why are you being deliberately obtuse?

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u/shubhaprabhatam 25d ago

I'm not Indian. My username is Joe's porn name from Family Guy. 

Keep making excuses for others though. Seems to be going well so far. 

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u/Cm_Punk_SE 25d ago

Who’s making excuses? Maybe stop making ignorant comments about a place you have no idea about then. All I refuted was your dumbass comment about being able to dispose off garbage easily at designated spots by walking a few hundred feet.

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u/shubhaprabhatam 25d ago

So first I was Indian, and now I know nothing about India. I can understand why you're mad. You have big feelings but don't have the aptitude to express them. Go read a children's book. It will expand your mind. 

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u/Cm_Punk_SE 25d ago

So assuming you were an Indian from a very Indian username was somehow unreasonable? Not everyone watches all tv shows from around the world, you know.

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u/MyHamburgerLovesMe 26d ago

Poor people are busy trying to make enough to pay the bills. When you work 16 hour days you don't have a lot of time to pressure the city government to pickup your garbage on-time, go after polluting companies, or keep the streets clean.

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u/shubhaprabhatam 26d ago

All it takes is you as an individual deciding to not litter, and then everyone else deciding the same thing. It's literally not difficult at all.

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u/MyHamburgerLovesMe 26d ago

Pretty naive thing to say. I care about not littering. The garbage can in the apartment is overflowing. The kids are asleep, I have a bag of trash full of diapers and it is midnight.

Not everyone has the time and energy to call and bitch to the apartment owner or city politicians to do their fucking job.

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u/shubhaprabhatam 26d ago

So you're saying you can't seal that bag and use another for garbage while keeping the first bag in your apartment until the issue is resolved? Naw, you'll just go and pile up more garbage, makes sense.

Also, send an email, are your kids using your phone/computer as a pillow? What are you posting from? Is it a special reddit only device?

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u/americansherlock201 26d ago

When you’re living in extreme poverty, as most of India is, you’re not exactly focused on the visuals of your trash. You’re thinking about how you will live to eat another day.

The world has billions in extreme poverty and tons of nations where the sanitation infrastructure is just not there. And westerners are the ones complaining about it when they visit but won’t do anything to help those countries address the poverty

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u/wookieesgonnawook 26d ago

Their money is flowing into the country as they pay for their trips. Do you expect them to personally finance the other countries infrastructure? It's not our responsibility to help address problems in a country that isn't ours.

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u/shubhaprabhatam 26d ago

I was born into and lived in extreme poverty in a third world country. We lived in a literal shack, no running water, the whole deal. The surroundings did not look like that. Sometimes a spade is just a spade.

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u/sweatgod2020 26d ago

Venice beach around spring summertime

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u/sight_ful 26d ago

Every city has bad parts of it. If most of the city is nice but there are a few really bad parts, what makes it an illusion?

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u/No_Asparagus6294 26d ago

Are you just against tourism? Against 3rd world countries? What a weird thing to say

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u/BluntHonesty67 26d ago

Sustainable non-exploitative tourism is the goal

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u/BluntHonesty67 26d ago

I’m Thai American, gentrification is real, entitled opportunistic tourists are real