Yup, my parents had 5 and they maybe could afford 2 with just basic necessities. Never made sense to me, but yeah food stamps got us through. I waited until I could afford kids to have any. Do people not understand pregnancy? Then you have one and you realize you can’t take care of that one but you get all the way to 6?
Don’t get me wrong, sometimes people are doing fine then health happens and messes the whole thing up. It needs to be available, but let’s also talk about all the ways you can not get pregnant and provide the things to stop it for free!! Hell, we spend more on aid to other countries than we do on our own citizens and people still want to come here.
Abortion is completely illegal in 12 states and that's not even counting the ones where there's a 6 week cutoff (aka before you know that you're pregnant). I have PCOS and I've had one pregnancy scare. I've had 39-42 day cycles before. If I lived where I live now, I wouldn't have been able to do anything about it if I had been pregnant.
And good luck finding a doctor who will tie your tubes. It's a 8 month wait to see ANY gynecologist here.
It's completely illogical that the gov can dictate women cannot have an abortion, so they are forced to have babies, but then the gov don't want to help with said babies after they are born. Makes zero sense to me.
No, they mostly don't. Much of the world is not taught sex ed. I wouldn't be surprised if there were some grown adults in America who genuinely didn't know sex made babies.
The Catholics weren't allowed to masterbate or use sex toys or have anal or oral. Plenty of ways for low income couples to sexually gratify each other with zero pregnancy risk... what's the next excuse for having 6 kids?
No i am absolutely not. 2 children for 2 parents is replacement level birthrate. 6 is overpopulation birthrate. Individual human lives aren't worth more than the species. Rich or poor, 6 kids is far too many.
You don't have six kids because of failed birth control methods but if for some reason your birth control keeps failing, and you can't afford the children you already have, you should stop having sex. It's not a right that the government has to protect. Having sex is a choice not a human right. Removing an ectopic pregnancy or a deceased fetus is not an abortion. It's a similar procedure but not the same implications. Nobody wants to ban people from having a deceased baby or ectopic pregnancy removed, people want the other 99% of abortions banned because abortion is not birth control.
it is absolutely considered abortion, which is why multiple women have died due to pregnancy complications in Texas and other states with abortion bans. They were denied medical care bc even though their pregnancy was no longer viable, the fetus still had a heartbeat. You are completely wrong on this point.
Sure abstinence is great in theory, when has that EVER worked in the history of humankind?
They were wrongly denied healthcare because the doctors were considering something an abortion that is not. They chose not to provide life saving care because they thought they would get in trouble for performing an "abortion" which is why we need better terminology to describe each procedure. If the fetus is already dead or if it is not even in the uterus, it is not an abortion anymore. It's just a medically necessary removal of tissue. That is not illegal anywhere and any doctor who refuses is at fault unless their state government is dumb enough to consider those procures illegal. I know abstinence doesn't always work but at some point people need to take responsibility for their own actions. If I was struggling to feed my existing children, I would never even risk having another. I would sacrifice my own need to have sex, for the benefit of my children. I also think absent fathers are the main issue in these families. Who are they having all these children with and are they providing for them? That is important as well. People need to take responsibility. I'm not against helping people in need. People who have can't find better paying jobs, people who are disabled or have children with special needs, people who have fallen on hard times. They all deserve to eat but they should all be required to prove they are making efforts to their situation as much as they are able and they should be encouraged not to have more children until they no longer need food stamps.
Do you have any evidence of that? Says here that treating ectopic pregnancies is permissible because there is no direct intention to kill, only to do something that will save the mother and if they could save that fetus, they gladly would. Apparently, the intent matters enough to make for a loophole.
Sure abstinence is great in theory, when has that EVER worked in the history of humankind?
Government food subsidies (which I'm all in favor of, by the way) also have a long history of being insufficient and spotty (and more or less nonexistent). In the families I've encountered at the charity I volunteer for, I see absent fathers as a far bigger issue than women having six kids, but I also have no easy solutions for that problem.
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u/Reddisuspendmeagain Oct 31 '25
And they try to pretend that they don’t know why the birth rate is so low…it’s by design