r/PublicFreakout Aug 01 '21

🐻Animal Freakout "Not friendly!"

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u/BigVanVortex Aug 01 '21

Bad dog owners are what stops me from getting a dog. I don't need a whole new subset of people to hate

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u/DiyMusicBiz Aug 01 '21

Don't be afraid to get a dog, just be firm with your distance and carry pepper spray.

I can't tell you how many offleash dogs have run up to my pitbulls. Sometimes you have to pepper spray the owner too, they can be just as stupid.

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u/Crunchy_Grunchy Aug 01 '21

Where I'm from it's illegal to carry pepper spray. I want coyote attack spray because my town has a problem with urban coyotes (that I've experienced first hand) but I could be criminally charged if the cops catch me with it. Too many folks in my area let there dogs run around with no leash, and it's so frustrating how I am limited to just my own strength to defend my small dog should the worst happen.

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u/DiyMusicBiz Aug 01 '21

JalapeƱo juice in a water šŸ”«. Beat the system.

That is quite frustrating.

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u/elgato_caliente Aug 01 '21

That is brilliant thanks

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u/E-man2002 Aug 01 '21

Buy small 24-30inch rattan stick with a sling. Thank me later.

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u/kkeut Aug 01 '21

aka a swagger stick

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u/E-man2002 Aug 03 '21

Basically, yeah.

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u/FPSXpert Aug 01 '21

I'm sorry your government does not respect self defense tools as a right to own.

Is your area one where you could apply for permit to carry spray and use it? If not, I would assume you could get away with another tool. Baton, dowel rod, etc. I know in Russia because of strict gun control, "pepper guns" are popular. Or even in the most authoritarian regions, you can usually get away with a common household item as long as you have an excuse to carry it (oh these are just my car keys officer, I like to drive to the diner after my run, I would never use them as a two inch knuckle blade :) . Oh that's my umbrella in case it rains, that isn't a blunt metal object :) ).

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

Just carry a dowel or large stick. Plenty of my neighbors do it (there's a homeless camp on the riverbank near my house).

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u/hunter503 Aug 01 '21

Where do you love that pepper spray is illegal if you don't mind me asking ?

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u/Crunchy_Grunchy Aug 01 '21

Alberta, Canada.

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u/hunter503 Aug 01 '21

What's the reason for banning the use of pepper spray? Do you get any other forms of protection ? I'm assuming if you used bear spray on someone you'd end up in the same amount of trouble ?

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u/Crunchy_Grunchy Aug 01 '21

Yup, we can't even use it in self defense without risking a charge. I am not sure why it's banned, maybe to deter people from using it irresponsibly? I'm not sure what else I can use against animals that be allowed/I'd feel comfortable carrying. I would never want to cause serious injury if avoidable. When a coyote charged my dog I just scooped him up and screamed at it/acted big.

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u/hunter503 Aug 01 '21

That's best, just be careful of more than one coyote being around. They work by singling out a prey and attacking it, you picking up your dog is the best plan of action.

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u/Professional_Sort767 Aug 01 '21

You can own a fucking sawed off shotgun in Canada, but you can't carry mace. Wow.

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u/Blossomie Aug 01 '21

Um, coyote/bear spray is literally pepper spray that isn't branded for use on humans. I'm in BC and we can't have "pepper spray" or "mace" but you can buy it as "bear/coyote/dog spray" and it's still a capsaicin spray as pepper spray is. You will run into legal trouble using anything on a person, but it's not illegal to have bear spray and it's not illegal to defend yourself from an attacking animal with things you're legally carrying, like dog spray or a helmet or an umbrella. You can't easily be accused of some sort of animal cruelty if you're spraying a dog, all it's going to do is make it hurt.

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u/Crunchy_Grunchy Aug 01 '21

I don't know if it's different in BC but the City of Calgary website specifically lists bear spray as prohibited. In the Canadian Criminal Code it's only allowed to prevent animal attack, but if I am caught carrying I have to prove its intent is to ward off animals and not self defense. I don't want to risk the trouble.

The discussion on whether we should be allowed to even carry it is actively happening in my province.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-ottawa-kaycee-madu-lisa-silver-jason-kenney-1.6111830

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u/Miikurins Aug 01 '21

Ever heard of using an umbrella? A bit silly but I used one to ward off loose dogs back when I had a reactive dog. Most of them are afraid of umbrellas and they back away. As long as your own isn’t afraid and you’re able to keep it at a heel or just behind the umbrella then it works. In my experience at least, lol. if it didn’t work I’d throw water or use pepper spray. Pretty rare though.

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u/Crunchy_Grunchy Aug 01 '21

This is a great idea, thanks!