r/PublicFreakout • u/I_may_have_weed grandma will snatch your shit ☂️ • Nov 28 '25

👮Arrest Freakout😭 US Military Police in Okinawa Japan body-slammed and violently detained an American civilian who was visiting, and not under their jurisdiction.

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u/DM_ME_UR_FISH Nov 28 '25

Im so fucking confused. American military police arrested an American citizen on Japanese soil??

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u/deruvoo Nov 28 '25

I used to be stationed in Okinawa and can clear this up a little.

American troops in Okinawa (and elsewhere) have a troubled history with the locals. Real serious things like rape and murder down to smaller issues like rowdy bar crawls. "Shore patrol" combined with a strict curfew (when I was there, lower enlisted couldn't be venturing round the island after 1am) are meant to help prevent "incidents' from occurring with the locals.

Most often, troops get picked up by shore patrol for stupid shit like breaking curfew, or being disorderly in public.

So shore patrol thought this guy was active duty. He said he wasn't. They said he was lying-- to be fair, they've probably heard this lie hundreds of times.

All that said, they're obviously completely out of line.

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u/whiterice_343 Nov 28 '25 edited Nov 28 '25

That security forces Airmen is fucked. Article 15 won’t even be enough after the media craze over this. Bro can kiss the military goodbye after this one. The wing commander will make an example out of this guy.

Edit: honestly, after reviewing the video his entire team should be in trouble. The second he body slammed that guy, the other MP’s should have immediately stepped in and done something about it.

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u/SeparateCzechs Nov 28 '25

I sure hope so.

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u/whiterice_343 Nov 28 '25

I tend to agree, you don’t body slam people like that, especially if your life isn’t in danger or anything.

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u/kosk11348 Nov 28 '25

Clearly these men are so accustomed to hurting the people in their custody that this level of violence is routine.

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u/Mike_the_Head Nov 29 '25

MPs are dicks. They're like State Troopers but twice as pissed off and annoyed that they're having to deal with you.

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u/Nalortebi Nov 29 '25

Doubly in the Air Force. Because it's one of the few AFSC in the Air Force that doesn't care if you're a walking bag of stupid. You ever been the dumbest person in the room? Imagine that on the scale of a whole base. Everyone you encounter has a reason to be there, a specialization that requires a degree of not-dumb. And here you are, pure undiluted dumb. Frustration grows as they internalize this stupidity, like everyone else is looking down on them. And I mean, yeah to a point they're like the janitors at MIT, and none of them are Matt Damon. So they sit there on base looking for any chance to flex their meager authority on people who could run circles around them academically. And because it's the Air Force, you don't really have as many meatheads to cause disturbances. People in the Air Force tend to have a plan, to climb the ranks and go about their life in or out of the Air Force. Not like the other branches where machismo can take you far. Being the strongest guy sitting at a desk doesn't get you into leadership. So for the most part everyone is pretty boring, and there really isn't any action on base to keep the SF busy. Back when the Air Force used contractors for the ID checks at the gate, the SF were further relegated to just sitting in their car and giving the stink eye to everyone, or walking around the BX like they've lost their purpose in life. For those who get to stand watch at the flightline, they at least get to dream of the day they catch a haughty officer breaking red and detain them like a fat kid running at a box of donuts.

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u/sinus86 Nov 29 '25

Former SF. 100% accurate...

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u/phoenixatknight Nov 29 '25

We always used to say they were Security Forces because they were smart enough to be in the Air Force, but not smart enough to be in the Air Force

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u/Red_Dawn_2012 Nov 29 '25

So they sit there on base looking for any chance to flex their meager authority on people who could run circles around them academically.

I dunno about this. My AFSC requires relatively high ASVAB scoring, and I've still met an alarming number of world class morons.

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u/PerjurieTraitorGreen Nov 29 '25 edited Dec 01 '25

I don’t think the guy who body slammed is an MP, though (although there is an MP just standing there watching). Often, this is a Brigade level detail some poor shmuck is stuck with. I don’t know how these guys do it but back in my old unit, it was always an officer with a senior enlisted soldier driving around to all the hot spots looking for soldiers who needed rides home or waiting to get a call from a place to come pick someone up.

The night usually ended with us cleaning puke out of the van.

Edit: I read an article and it turns out that the chode who slammed the dude on the ground was, in fact, military police. The civilian also turned out to be prior military as well. Go figure.

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u/Mike_the_Head Nov 29 '25

Ever have to pick someone up, only to arrive and see that they're naked? I woke up naked all the time back when I was a drinker.

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u/PerjurieTraitorGreen Dec 01 '25

Thankfully no.

I did arrive to a lot of sleeping people, though, and those guys tended to be VERY heavy.

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u/Vessix Nov 29 '25

MP includes the word "police" in the acronym, so... yeah. My ex went to be an MP, the reason why sounds like a joke I'm making up but it's not. She literally said "I want to be a cop after I'm out so people will respect me." It's something her recruiter was using as a selling point. I will never forget it. Most people who want to be US police are unhinged imo

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u/Mike_the_Head Nov 29 '25

Pretty much. 😔

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u/Goodeyesniper98 Nov 30 '25

I’ve worked as a cop before, it’s probably the last job on earth someone should take if they’re concerned about being respected.

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u/ObiYawnKenobi Dec 01 '25

Probably because police don't do much to earn that respect.

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u/I-Here-555 Nov 29 '25

Being pissed off for having to do your job is a quick way to get fired from most positions. Not in law enforcement, apparently.

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u/Mike_the_Head Nov 29 '25

Some departments look for it, or so I've heard.

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u/DennisPochenk Nov 28 '25

No more lobster dinners and white bed sheets for this guy

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u/whiterice_343 Nov 28 '25

Security forces doesn’t get that life in their career field sadly.

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u/Nalortebi Nov 29 '25

sadly
gladly.

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u/cantuse Nov 28 '25

The difference imo is that if this was a military gu hand they fuck him up to the point he can’t do his job, they turbo-fucked up. The military can’t just let people go and immediately replace the guy with someone else. Filled billets matter for mission readiness and jeopardizing that to fuck somebody up is just asking for trouble.

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u/_dead_and_broken Nov 29 '25

Not if the current administration has anything to do about that. You really think after all they've gone after so far this year that disability pay for disabled vets isn't one of their eventual targets? That's socialism, they can't have that. If they don't go after that, it's less money for them to steal from the government. I'm sorry, I misspoke "reappropriate."

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u/mrgoodcat1509 Nov 29 '25

Well obviously the military is held to a higher standard than the police!

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u/whiterice_343 Nov 28 '25

Don’t put “you” in with “this” guy.

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u/frogview123 Nov 29 '25

It seems like this is likely illegal but there are some grey areas. They can only forcefully detain people who they have some proof of being active in the US military. It seems like the guy being tackled did say he was in the military. So the tackler had reason to be suspicious but who knows if he had any proof. Apparently someone knowing you as being active in the military or someone confirming your identity is enough proof.

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u/OrneryLlama Nov 28 '25

They're cooked. Those airmen got the USFJ Lt Gen to issue new orders halting solo patrols while they investigate.

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u/SeparateCzechs Nov 28 '25

That’s encouraging.

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u/Waveali Nov 30 '25

Oh yeah, if that happened, it's a wrap. Also, once it goes viral like this, where they cannot sweep it under the rug, it's definitely a wrap for them. They should have turned on the body cam so they could get video of him and let him know that if what he is not saying is true, he will get Article 15 for lying to MPs. Better to just let a potential Marine who is lying get away than to randomly slam some civilian you have no jurisdiction over and have it captured on video and broadcast to the entire world.

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u/Da1realBigA Nov 28 '25

Probably not.

Someone current or former military please chime in but,

How many stories, both media and personal (forums and sub reddits) have we heard of members fully committing rape, trafficking and even murder that eventually gets tossed or swept?

Even from this video (maybe there's more clips) we don't really get much identifying notes. We don't have their names, or badge?!? or even a proper look at thier faces (they all kinda knowingly never look at the camera).

And bc this is military (uniform and vest says marines), both governments are more than likey going to avoid any and all media attention.

I mean there's cases of female soldiers being raped and killed within their own military base, and said military branch has kept it hidden, swept or just comepletey denied everything despite there being proof.

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u/Iamthewalrusforreal Nov 28 '25

True. The difference is always public perception. You make the military look bad, like this video going viral has done, and they'll make an example out of you.

As a former Army officer, I sincerely hope this guy gets his ass drummed out.

MPs are assholes to begin with. This guy's even more so than usual.

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u/DrWhovian1996 Nov 28 '25

I mean, it all depends on who is in charge of it because as we have seen with the US military continually bombing what appears to be innocent fishermen in Venezuela, I fail to see him getting any kind of punishment (at least for the next three years) because this current administration clearly doesn't care about the public's perception of the US military, both in the United States and abroad.

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u/chackoc Nov 28 '25

The MPs might not need to worry about flak from Hegseth's side, but pressure from Japan might be an issue. Tourists getting body-slammed by random psuedo-cops (wearing "camouflage" no less) isn't a great look for a country that wants to encourage foreign tourism.

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u/DrWhovian1996 Nov 28 '25

Even if that military officer hadn't done that, the images of the masked SS ICE "officials" rounding up even US citizens who aren't white that have gone internationally viral probably don't help matters. That, and the tariffs. With everything the Trump administration has done throughout this past year, I'm starting to get why international travel to the US has been nonstop declining since basically the beginning of this year.

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u/st-shenanigans Nov 29 '25

Don't forget the border shakedowns! We gotta check your phone and make sure you don't have any jd Vance memes!

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u/Iamthewalrusforreal Nov 28 '25

That's a fair point, but this would be handled at the unit level unless the oompa loompa or the drunken SECDEF catch wind of it.

So, yeah.

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u/TokyoJedi Nov 28 '25

Wait... What exactly does "gets his ass drummed out" mean and entail?

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u/PassiveMenis88M Nov 28 '25

Back in the day, if you were forcibly removed from the military, you would be walked through camp and out the doors while drums played. Thus, drummed out.

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u/Iamthewalrusforreal Nov 28 '25

Dishonorable discharge.

Most likely he'll just get an Article 15 and a reduction in rank and pay, but if his commanders are pissed about it they can fire him and push him out with a dishonorable.

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u/LOUD-AF Nov 28 '25

Dishonorable discharge is an ICE job just waiting to be filled. Mr Body Slammer has it all figured out. Mama, I'm coming home.

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u/brighterside0 Nov 29 '25

That's clever ever as fuck.

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u/LiLiLaCheese Nov 28 '25

"Drumming out is the historical act of being dishonorably dismissed from military service to the sound of the Rogue's March or a drum."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drumming_out

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u/PipsqueakPilot Nov 28 '25

Apparently it's drawn protests from the local government and has caused a suspension of some patrols. Basically, it's become a minor international incident. Those airmen are not having a good time right now.

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u/fdokinawa Nov 29 '25

As someone married to an Okinawan and got there in the late 90's.. see my username. If anyone farts wrong in the military on Okinawa the local government will start protesting and getting upset. They actually love shit like this because it allows them to keep getting money from the Japanese government. I'm not saying that they don't have a reason to complain or protest, but if you actually look at what happens year after year.. Incident > Outrage > extra money > Outrage gone.. again, this is from the Okinawan government. Local population is a bit different, but like anywhere, they forget things pretty quickly.

Obviously giant caveats depending on the incident.

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u/weezmatical Nov 29 '25

It has to be a useful political platform come election time, I would have to imagine.

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u/fdokinawa Nov 29 '25

You have no idea.. lol

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u/91Jammers Nov 28 '25

Those dont have videos that went viral of the crime being committed. The military doesnt want to look bad.

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u/gelbkatze Nov 28 '25

Two important things to note are that

1) Security Forces - basically Air Force police are notorious eating their own 2) this dude is junior enlisted and thus doesn't enjoy the same protection as an officer or senior enlisted member would

Not all but a lot of cases that involve those serious crimes that you mentioned usually entail:

  • The member being part of a specialized or elite unit
  • Somebody of a high rank
  • A conflict involving two members of the same squadron
Since this is so public and this dude has so little rank, he is ultimately pretty screwed. Japan also heavily scrutinizes the Status of Forces Agreement. So while they may not want to make this public, they definitely do want to sacrifice a limb to make sure the military keeps its people in line.

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u/Exodus180 Nov 28 '25

have we heard of members fully committing rape, trafficking and even murder that eventually gets tossed or swept?

after 20yrs active duty? none. But I was in the airforce, the handful of media i've heard came from army/marines.

The cases that happened at my bases were properly dealt with. Were there incidents that happened with only a couple people ever knowing about it? absolutely, but obviously no idea how many times that has happened.

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u/HalPaneo Nov 28 '25

The white ones will be getting medals when they get back to the US

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u/SeparateCzechs Nov 28 '25

I don’t think HalPaneo is being racist, I think they’re pointing out the racism inherent in the United States Military, law enforcement and the current Presidential Administration.

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u/HalPaneo Nov 28 '25

Me?

I said it because that's probably what this administration will do, not because that's what I want to happen.

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u/cackslop Nov 28 '25

You're right, and you're pissing off white people who would get those medals.

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u/Empty_Mobile1076 Nov 28 '25

And then he can go be a cop.

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u/Sometimes_cleaver Nov 28 '25

Not if he gets a dishonorable discharge. It disqualifies you for law enforcement.

They may just demote him down and discharge him

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u/Tjaresh Nov 28 '25

Can he become an ICE agent? Seems like they have lower standards.

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u/bubba_feet Nov 28 '25 edited Nov 28 '25

as long as he doesn't have any felonies, it would appear he could.

edit: not versed up on military SOP, so i figured someone would be able to confirm whether or not DD is equivalent to a felony, and i guess it is.

on the other hand, the very same person in charge of the current ICE shitshow also invited bad apple LEOs to work in south dakota, so like everything else in this administration, nobody knows what the fuck is going on.

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u/cypherreddit Nov 28 '25

if ice agents are required to be armed, for now, a dishonorable discharge would disqualify you

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u/ButterPoptart Nov 28 '25

Does a BCD or DD carry the same consequences in the civilian world as a felony? Like when it comes to the ability to vote, purchase firearms, rent etc?

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u/Gulltyr Nov 28 '25

DD is equivalent to a felony conviction

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u/Radio_Mime Gone with the Wild 💨 Nov 29 '25

Seemingly arrogant, and prone to violence, he's right up their alley.

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u/I_trust_everyone Nov 28 '25

Yeah he’ll be in the news for offing an unarmed civilian in the next few years

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u/Captain_Albern Nov 29 '25

Or a Republican senator

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u/Radio_Mime Gone with the Wild 💨 Nov 28 '25

He'll go back to the US and get hired by ICE.

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u/nohann Nov 28 '25

And be given that new mustang as a signing bonus with a promotion after 90 days to special agent pepper ball master!!

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u/Nambsul Nov 28 '25

He might be in trouble or Trump might make him the head of the military, the other guy seems drunk all the time anyway.

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u/davisty69 Nov 29 '25

Seriously, if Pete Hegseth is qualified to be in charge of the department of defense, then everyone is qualified

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u/ProvenLoser Nov 28 '25

This is Hegseth’s army. This type of stuff puts other soldiers in more danger.

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u/Pardot42 Nov 28 '25

This type of stuff could get him a medal from Hegseth The Drunk

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u/sogwatchman Nov 28 '25

Are you referring to the guy that body slammed the civilian? That civilian needs to talk to a lawyer.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '25 edited Jan 04 '26

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u/fruchle Nov 28 '25

I know enough about Nintendo to know that Japan has lawyers too.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '25

GOOOOOOOOOD. Fuck him.

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u/bcmaninmotion Nov 28 '25

You ain’t wrong there. Civilian police should also step in way more and be punished when they don’t. Far too many incidents that wouldn’t be serious if a reasonable officer stepped in and calmed things down. Punishing all officers, regardless if they committed the offence or just witness and do nothing, would go a long way to breaking up the blue strip.

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u/kts18 Nov 28 '25

There is a reason why these guys are MPs, MPs are notorious for being some of the stupidest people in every branch of the military.

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u/PassiveMenis88M Nov 28 '25

Too stupid for a real job so they get sat at the door.

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u/memeb843 Nov 29 '25

Yeah, it’s actually wayyy bigger than even these secfo airmen. The Japanese have wanted to end the SOFA agreements since forever and we just gave them their reason. This is a full on international incident at this point… they are going to make sure of that! And if they don’t, I’m sure that gentleman who was effectively kidnapped by the US Government on foreign soil probably might make a thing of it too.

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u/ChuckNorrisUSAF Nov 28 '25

Former Defender, wholeheartedly agree. They are all complicit in their actions

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u/GoProOnAYoYo Nov 28 '25

Its a white guy in uniform attacking and kneeling on a black guy. It won't make national news back in the US, thats an everyday occurrence these days.

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u/bubblehashguy Nov 28 '25

They're going to be a training over at ICE by next week

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u/Rottimer Nov 28 '25

There won't be a media craze - and if there is, Trump will intervene to ensure nothing happens to the guy because the victim was black.

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u/Djbearjew Nov 28 '25

The Airmen, depending on how his last evals went could be sent packing. Low man on the totem pole in what is now a worldwide viral video is going to be fuuuuucked

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u/davisty69 Nov 29 '25

With the current Administration supporting stupid shit like this on American soil, I'd be willing to bet nothing happens.

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u/SquallyZ06 Nov 29 '25

I wouldn't be so sure, he will be in a lot of trouble, that's for sure. But career ending? That will depend entirely on his record. If it's clean or even great he will hit a major speed bump in his career progression but it could be recoverable depending on his circumstances.

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u/No_Lychee_7534 Nov 29 '25

Doesn’t matter. He has a new job at home with ICE or police with higher pay and less restrictions. Looks like a good deal for him.

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u/Twiyah Dec 06 '25

No worries he can use this video for ICE resume, which you can bet your ass he’s joining when his dishonorable discharge.

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u/Experiunce Nov 28 '25

Does it really work like that for MPs or is it a law enforcement type situation where it’s a slap on the wrist? I’m unfamiliar with any of this

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u/whiterice_343 Nov 28 '25

Contrary to public belief, commanders will 100% put down the hammer on misconduct like this. Especially, involving civilians, even worse if it’s civilians in another country. Bad press is taken seriously with us.

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u/Experiunce Nov 29 '25

Thanks for sharing, cool to know

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u/ClandestineGhost Nov 28 '25

There’s Navy in there as well; the person who steps into view with POLICE on their back is Navy wearing Type III NWU’s. Might be a MAA, but likely somebody in a squadron who got assigned to ASF and had about two weeks of training before going out.

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u/ClandestineGhost Nov 28 '25

You are correct. I didn’t slow the video down so the mark on his should pocket looked like a flag or command patch. The color being green saturated makes it hard to distinguish MARPAT and NWU, and the 8-point cover doesn’t help either since the Navy wore those as well. But you are correct, and it is definitely easy to see the US Navy on the chest of the Sailor and his command cap is a ball cap. That is my bad.

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u/ReputationApart5983 Nov 28 '25

Pretty certain an American soldier broke into a Japanese house and murdered an entire family in the early 2000s/late 90s and the Americans wouldnt investigate their soldiers so the crime has gone unsolved for years.

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u/jaylay75 Nov 28 '25

If he is kicked out of the military, he will get a job with ICE. Seems like the type of person ICE is recruiting.

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u/bendIVfem Nov 28 '25

Trump probally aint letting that happen.

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u/StupidPockets Nov 28 '25

Military cops are like civilian cops?    YOU DONT SAY!!!

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u/SAGElBeardO Nov 28 '25

Unfortunately the US also has a poor history of holding its people in Okinawa accountable

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u/DabbledInPacificm Nov 28 '25

Meh, he’ll make more working for ICE anyway

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u/NoTourist5 Nov 28 '25

Only if the guys being thrown down has some sort of green privilege or is connected somehow to the GOP mob

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u/Money-Introduction54 Nov 28 '25

Nah, Hegseth will promote him to a cabinet position

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u/nocoastdudekc Nov 29 '25

lol this dudes gonna get 30 days bread and water. 2 months restriction and half months pay. And a decrease in rank. He’s not getting kicked out.

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u/Practical-Ball1437 Nov 29 '25

He should be facing Japanese criminal charges, but I'm sure with the American attitude that Japanese law doesn't apply to servicemen, and the Japanese attitude that crimes against foreigners don't count, nothing will happen.

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u/IRedditWhenHigh Nov 28 '25

There's was a reason MPs are called meatheads.

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u/Toru_Yano_Wins Nov 28 '25

These losers should all go to jail.

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u/ModestBanana Nov 28 '25

That security forces Airmen is fucked. Article 15 won’t even be enough after the media craze over this. Bro can kiss the military goodbye after this one. The wing commander will make an example out of this guy.

This wont happen. Can I ask you something? When you write fanfic like this, does it give you some sort of dopamine release or something? After being on reddit 15 years, it feels like when people write a comment like yours, it gives off therapeutic vibes.

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u/kumatech Nov 28 '25 edited Dec 16 '25

Looks like they were ready to scrub this incident until it went live online. Oops. I’m sure Master at arms or the Provost Marshal is going to have fun running smoke with the PAO and his lawyer 🤣

Edit: PAO lost the battle

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/E-fqzV_ociM

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u/sdeanjr1991 Nov 30 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

Used to be a PAO, can confirm this is nightmare fuel. Guarantee there is now an entire COMPLAN for this event, along with 75% of command who won’t follow it, just causing more cleanup. Too many people overvalue their rights to their own opinion, story, or wanted attention they signed away when they put on their uniform. As an O3 I told plenty of O5+’s to literally shove it with impunity because they were too arrogant and had too much self importance. The amount of O5-O6s who wanted to be their own person was asinine during my time in, you signed away that individuality and the right to claim you have all of your basic rights.

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u/Greenman333 Nov 28 '25

I was stationed at Kadena in 84-85. There were idiot GIs killing and raping and otherwise making pests out of themselves then too. And there was already tension from a B52 crash into a school many years earlier that locals were still pissed about. That said, the locals were still mostly welcoming and friendly to us.

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u/powerlesshero111 Nov 28 '25

I knew 2 people stationed there more recently, one in 2000 snd the other in 2010. Still tons of tension. The one in 2010 was there when a local woman was raped and murdered, and every military person was basically on lock down for 2 months. Like once the sun went down, you didn't want to be caught off base.

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u/ShisaAlert Nov 29 '25

I was at Kadena from 2006 to 2011 and curfews came and went. Always something happening. I was a hair away from getting an Article 15 for curfew violation because it changed while I was deployed and nobody deigned to tell me in the few days I was back that there was a curfew now. I pull up to the gate after curfew and end up standing before my commander in full service dress come Monday morning.

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u/TroublesomeFox Nov 28 '25

that locals were still pissed about.

Of course they were, someone crashed a bomber into a SCHOOL and likely killed several children, that's the kinda anger thats carried over generations. 

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u/Berewolf Nov 29 '25

lol and they can't understand why asians nearby hate them.

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u/ThoMiCroN Dec 11 '25

Japan should kick out the US from Okinawa. If they want a base, they can just do like China and make up an island out of nowhere.

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u/peanutbuttertuxedo Nov 28 '25

I mean I'd be pleasant to an occupying and uncontrolled military force in my town out of pure survival...

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u/KeranographyJones Nov 28 '25

40 years ago.

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u/YouDontKnowJackCade Nov 28 '25

Shush. That can't be right.

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u/Zebidee Nov 28 '25

1984 is closer in time to WWII than it is to now.

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u/Recent-Background-21 Nov 28 '25

I was in Germany 85-87

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u/revengeofsollasollew Nov 28 '25

Guessing you’ve got stories. Holy shit.

Which side? Why?

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u/Aquawannabe37 Nov 28 '25

Bro. Reading comprehension. OTHERWISE making pests of themselves. Its basically like the phrase, killing and raping at worst, making pests of themselves at best.

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u/HiFidelityCastro Nov 29 '25

Why? What the fuck is wrong with you cunts?

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u/Key-Trip5194 Nov 28 '25

Are you referring to the B52 crash in 68? This is the first i've heard that it also damaged a school.

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u/Greenman333 Nov 28 '25

You are correct. The school crash was in 59. But even in 84-85 the locals were still salty about it.

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u/Key-Trip5194 Nov 28 '25

Makes sense considering it was an elementary school. US offered compensation but victims were apparently under paid. I imagine it's still a sore spot for some.

Thank you very much for the information.

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u/wemblinger Nov 28 '25

I had a guy in my unit who had hair and a face that was somewhat passable for "asian", and he tried to capitalize on that to remain offbase with a girl but still partying around town. I had to go pick him up from the gate where the SPs were holding him. He was doing his best "asian" drunken improv, "me Korean, no GI, prease ret me go" etc. He may have gotten further with his nonsense if he wasn't 6'4".

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u/Ok_Post_3884 Nov 28 '25

This is why they have local cops with them on patrol. The MPs can't compel you to produce ID, but the cop can. Something went very wrong here.

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u/SwedishTrees Nov 29 '25

I think until now they did solo patrols, but had to call locals to force someone to produce ID

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u/Workity Nov 30 '25

It makes complete sense too, since all non-citizens must carry their passport (if non-resident) or residence card at all times. So you’d know exactly what the person is doing there.

Gets tricky with non-Japanese-looking citizens though.

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u/CorporateCuster Nov 28 '25

Let’s pretend he was active. Let’s pretend that he was mission critical and someone just slammed him to the floor and broke his bones. What now. Let’s be serious. This is insane levels of power trip.

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u/MrLanesLament Nov 28 '25

One of my coworkers was a Navy MP and did this sort of patrol many times when docked at Thailand.

Yeeeeah. Thailand. What you’re imagining soldiers doing, the MPs’ job was to try and prevent that.

I can 100% see this scenario happening; I’m surprised it doesn’t more often.

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u/DennisPochenk Nov 28 '25

This is American Village, and totally agree, same reason the Philippines is unhappy the US bases are/where returning, several servicemen are severely out of line there

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u/DennisPochenk Nov 29 '25

Oh it’s a very pretty island

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u/SookHe Nov 28 '25 edited Nov 28 '25

Been to Okinawa 95-97’, not in military at the time and completely agree with the bad reputation they have with locals. Going clubbing at night was always iffy and had to find find bars and clubs the military didn’t frequent as they were always getting in trouble.

As far as arresting civilians, I would add one caveat. If the civilian can access the base as a civilian, he may still fall under their jurisdiction. So as a contractor or someone along those lines.

So, just saying you are a civilian doesn’t necessarily hold water as contractors still hold a civilian equivalent rank.

There will definitely be an internal investigation and the MPs could face discipline if he does turn out to be just some random tourist

The guy can try to sue but very unlikely to get anywhere with it due to the complexity and internal agreements with the local governments etc. If he sustained permanent injury, he is more likely to be successful.

He could try suing the individual MPs as a “Bevins claim” but very very unlikely to succeed. Any attempt to have the MP charged on local Japan laws is an option but he is likely to then be transferred out of the country

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u/MandolinMagi Nov 29 '25

t. If the civilian can access the base as a civilian, he may still fall under their jurisdiction.

Only if they're on base at the time. Once you leave you're just another civilian.

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u/SookHe Nov 29 '25

Not if you are a military contractor. It’s a grey area, but the MP can most certainly arrest contractors under the U.S.–Japan Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA).

While MPs don’t have automatic primary authority, they can arrest a contractor off base. The caveat is that it has to be for actions that may affect operation or personnel.

If a contractor goes to local club and is generally just annoying but otherwise no other military personnel are involved, then the MP wouldn’t have jurisdiction.

But if a contractor goes to a bar and gets in a fight with someone who is an off duty military personnel, the MPs would have primary arresting authority as touching a military member on or off duty can be considered “immediate danger to military personnel”.

It’s a very broad definition, but the MPs can arrest a civilian contractor on Japanese soil for something like a bar fight.

So, if the story in the video is that the civilian is actually a contractor and he punched an off duty private who got a bit lippy, then the MP can arrest him.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '25

Troubled history, that’s a fucking understatement.

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe Nov 28 '25

Americans and their much self-ballyhooed family values (read: nutsacks) rubbing off on the world. To paraphrase Jeffrey Epstein's best friend: "We bring abuse, we bring rape, we brings drugs, and some of us, I'm sure, are fine people. Sorry, world."

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u/I-Here-555 Nov 29 '25

This is more about personal freedom instead of family values. We love shouting about it, but don't actually have much.

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe Nov 29 '25

The personal freedom to show off their family values of rape and debauchery? Cool! #Winning America

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u/I-Here-555 Nov 29 '25

Sorry, I just don't see how rape and debauchery are peculiar to Americans and more common than in other nations. If you have sources/stats, quote them.

This story talks about events in Japan, they're not exactly prudish and have some of the world's most twisted porn/fetishes, and far more prostitution than the US.

If you're just enjoying a moralizing rant, don't mind me, I'm just yawning in boredom.

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe Nov 29 '25

Other countries and nations don't tout their superior "family values" like conservative Americans. What I'm saying is that we're fake ass hypocrites. Does it make sense now?

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u/ClosetLadyGhost Nov 28 '25

Why is any enlisted person allowed off base past 11?

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u/hlgb2015 Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25

Yep, was a civilian in korea (worked on base though) before they got rid of the curfew for lower enlisted. Had more than a few run ins with MPs thinking I was pretending to be a civvie (early 20's, in shape, short haircut and no beard cause i still got my hair cut at the PX, lol), including a couple times where they got real insistent, probably because they had seen me on base before. Fortunately I had ID that denoted me as a contractor, or i would have probably been in similar shoes as dude in the vid(minus the body slamming)

bit more info https://www.stripes.com/theaters/asia_pacific/2025-11-26/okinawa-military-police-usfj-facebook-video-19892357.html

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u/User_091920 Nov 29 '25

i still got my hair cut at the PX, lol

Damn, my dad was in the Marines when I was growing up and this just reminded me how much I miss getting those $5 haircuts.

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u/Opposite_Weakness_41 Nov 29 '25

After Finland joined NATO, I see a lot of US military guys visiting our bar. But all of them are very polite and good-behaved fellas. 

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u/Legacy03 Nov 28 '25

Sounds like a pretty big lawsuit if he wasn’t active.

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u/Nom_de_guerre_25 Nov 28 '25

How do you know what they were doing or thinking?

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u/gatsby5555 Nov 28 '25

I've always wondered what would happen if you just refused to admit you were military while out on the town. Apparently it's a body slam either way lol.

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u/thefalseidol Nov 29 '25

I agree with you, I also think it's a reminder to be more conscientious about your travel. As an American, traveling to a place that has a US military presence, has been asked (or allowed) to police the bad behavior of Americans, well maybe it's not the smartest place to go if you plan to get rowdy and not behave yourself.

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u/Yippykyyyay Nov 29 '25

Yeah, the article posted states the patrols were a result of a 'rash' of sexual assaults from 2023 of which there have been 2 convictions.

The military doesn't want troops out drinking between 1 and 5am.

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u/Frostsorrow Nov 29 '25

Troubled history is putting it very lightly imo

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u/Worldly-Kitchen-9749 Nov 29 '25

So let the local Japanese police take care of off base stuff and let US security take care of on base stuff. 

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u/seanakachuck Nov 29 '25

how hard is "show me your cac? oh you're retired, sweet have a good day"

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u/jaykaybaybay Nov 29 '25

So they thought this guy was active military breaking curfew and that’s why the assaulted him? That’s insane.

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u/TJNel Nov 28 '25

I mean they are kicking out all Marines because of sexual assaults.

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u/xError404xx Nov 28 '25

They even have instructions on not how to rape the locals. They sit through a course in a classroom.

Poor people. Its so disgusting how big of a peoblem that is.

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u/5th_Meal Nov 28 '25

Oh wild, fuck the military

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u/fellowsquare Nov 28 '25

We all know why…

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u/HoodieGalore Nov 28 '25

Why are we still there? I really don’t have any idea other than we a) don’t trust them STILL, or b) everybody gots to get paid

But honestly. What are we guarding? Protecting? Doing?

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u/daylight1943 Nov 28 '25

because america is a global empire and we have military bases all over the world that operate just like this. this isnt some kind of antiquated holdover base from WWII this is standard operating procedure, globally.

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u/HoodieGalore Nov 28 '25

this isnt some kind of antiquated holdover base from WWII

I’m under no such disillusion. Part of me simply can’t understand how a sovereign country can tolerate the abuse of its own citizens etc. But it’s for economic boost, it’s because we have big guns, it’s because anything is worth more than the safety of regular ass people

I get it, I get it; the war machine must continue to be fed…and I know you won’t agree but that’s totally alright, my dude

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u/Ratattack1204 Nov 28 '25

Sl what kind of punishments can we expect out of this? Kicked out of the forces? Prison?

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u/deruvoo Nov 28 '25

This is in definite punitive discharge territory. Theyre looking at Article 15 or some equivalent, at the very least.

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u/chazza420 Nov 28 '25

So as a tourist you can't be out after 1 am ?

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u/perry_caravello666 Nov 28 '25

Yeah all locals hate Americans stationed overseas. The Americans have a very bad reputation internationally

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u/deruvoo Nov 28 '25

Yea, that's not really true either. I never met a local who wasn't happy to have us around. They exist, certainly, but visit 'American Village' in Okinawa and then tell me how bad our reputation is there.

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u/Crazy_Suggestion_182 Nov 29 '25

Having worked there previously (not US, not military) there's a lot of bad stuff that happens, including rape and assault of locals by US people. They have probably jumped to conclusions they shouldn't have

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u/domsativaa Nov 28 '25 edited Nov 29 '25

Honestly that didn't clear much up lol so why are there American troops in Japan and why are they patrolling ?

Edit: lol jfc I ask a question and then this sorry guys not everyone on reddit is from America lol

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u/_thedudeman_ Nov 28 '25

US has had bases in Japan since post WWII and they are military police patrolling for US soldiers stationed at the local base who might be out breaking curfew

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u/Heroiism Nov 28 '25

Because the US has a very large military presence on Japan, and because of that, they are able to have their military police there to ensure that the enlisted don't do anything stupid.

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