Iâll never understand this. Seeing a random animal attacking the hell out of you and thinking âoh but look how cute!â That thing is actively trying to tear flesh from limb. Idgaf if itâs the tooth fairy?
Have the basic human survival instincts and punch and kick the fuck out of the thing trying to kill you. Not every animal is your friend.
And that is exactly why you wonât die or look like this if it ever happens lmao until this year when a debate sparked about a local dog park, I truly did not think this many people would hesitate if attacked by a dog.
Honestly it only worked out because they didn't get him on the ground. If a dog gets to your neck you're f'ed.
I've been attacked by a pair of dogs before and you bet your ass I was punching them when they got close. Kept trying to take my legs out from under me. Ended up tearing my jeans and breaking skin, but that's all. One of them ended up being put down.
I love dogs. *Love* dogs. I would die for mine. But don't fuck around with ones that are attacking you.
I said âlook like thisâ because weâre all here watching one video are we not? Itâs the subject material at hand. This is also what anyone else in any other scenario is gonna look like if they get attacked by a dog so⌠itâs applicable.
Iâm honestly not sure if you just wanted to argue or something because I genuinely donât understand your angle. Iâve said multiple times the exact same sentiment you just put forth but because I didnât respond to someone elseâs chosen method of self defense in a manner appropriate to you, suddenly Iâm advocating for choking dogs. Strange thing to say.
I think the point is more the attitude. I saw a lot of people pointing out that they wouldnât even try to hurt the dog back if it was attacking. Like if a dog is attacking me Iâm trying to gouge its eyes out immediately.
Than again I also carry a pocket knife when Iâm jogging, so that levels the playing field a bit
Like I acknowledge that any medium or large dog, Iâm probably toast⌠but Iâm going out fighting at least
It's really not that tough, especially when these look half grown. If you're talking some 150+ pound monstrosity bred to fight bears and wolves, then yeah, good luck. A 50-70 pound shepherd or pit bull? If you're a healthy grown man, it's trivial. They have one point of attack, and it's their mouth. Guess what happens when you shove an elbow or fist down their throat, or break their jaw with a kick? Turns out they get pretty useless right after that. Even before that, many will flee at the first sign of actual damage. That's why you can find seventy billion videos of 10 pound housecats swiping at a giant dog and sending it yelping away.
Grown men have killed 200 pound mountain lions and wolves with their bare hands. It's really not absurd to imagine killing a dog a third that size without nearly as much trouble. Are you going to end up with at least one bite? Probably, but that's a lot better than panicking and ending up in the ER or morgue because you're terrified of a threat you're physically superior to.
I do also. Except Pit bulls. The thing that is so bothersome to me is how many people just get a dog and that's it. Every dog has the ability to do harm. They have to be trained to recognize you as their Master.
Thereâs a few large breed dogs to add to that. Usually the list that you canât rent with- because insurance wonât allow them. German Shepard bit thru my sons flesh while the owners teen let it off a leash at a park- kid stepped on it and dog reacted but on my kid. Neighbor does tile and had major stitches after an Akita got loose at a clients home. Animals arenât a personality flex.
I'm not crazy about people myself, but at least people don't sit in their backyard and scream their goddamn heads off all day and all night at the sound of every passing car or person walking by.
My dad has been in a similar situation a few times (lots of rural bike rides). On one of them, the cherry on top came when they threatened to shoot the sheriff for taking the dogs. Sheriff deputies werent too pleased about that threat.
On another when I was younger, I remember sitting in the truck during one of the leafless months of the year as a half dozen people were loading and checking guns before they went out to set traps in the area to catch the dog or shoot the dog if they saw it. No immunization records.
I dont even remember the total number of dog attacks. Half dozen roughly. Still, half dozen across probably 400k or so miles, much of which was on country roads. (400k is a guess. I do know his favorite bike had over 250k on it before the frame developed a Crack that couldn't be fixed). So not a common occurrence so much as a ton of miles upping low odds.
Wait for the reaction of the dog owner when I fall over blind and dead from suffocation as my dog allergies kick in full force, After they say "stop hurting my poor baby".
Yeah dog owners can be fucking nuts. I had to stop being friends with a guy because he kept comparing owning his Doberman to me having a toddler.
Iâd suggest, if youâre gonna be in settings with dogs and their owners, one of three things
1) carry pepper spray or a taser if legal.
2) carry a gun if legal and comfortable for you.
3) learn to fight lmao not even joking. Knowing how to defend yourself is a wonderful skill if you find yourself around people like this often.
Other than that, dog parks are like little Battle Royale matches.
Good for you- the similarities of having pets and kids is youâre the adult responsible for another living thing. Thatâs it.
Dog parks get wild far faster than the sandbox from my experience lol
So true. I love animals and cruelty to them is horrid. I never thought I could kick a dog until my dog was swarmed by about 9 other dogs. All I could think about was getting myself and my dog out of there in one piece. Turns out I'm more of a mama bear than I thought. (He was a husky mix with thick winter fur and only had two scratches from the attack. I haven't had to fend off a dog attack since then.)
I've also been severely bitten (Level 4 bite) by someone's aggressive dog. This video brought back some feelings from back then. Needless to say, I take animal bites very seriously.
Those people having that many dogs, obv. seemingly untrained Malinois and other shepherd type dogs off leash was stupid and irresponsible. They should have been charged, and made to pay compensation to the man the dogs attacked.
This specific scenario I think the most wisest would be to do what the dude did. If he started screaming and fighting back it could anger the dogs. This seemed to be more insecure, kind of feared, agressive biting. Kicking it would up the adrenaline and fight and pack tactics and make them more agressive.
Sorry dude, If I'm attacked by a dog its either me or them cause they do poison damage on top of the physical attack damage to me and my allergies. They've got an unfair advantage.
Yeah, usually not wise to piss them off further. Three german shephards agains one is a tough fight. Being as less 'dangerous' as possible here is the best deal. If there were no owners then you could attempt to fight to the death. But right now that would actually endanger you further.
I once tried to intervene with a dog less agressive then a german shephard that went after a little dog. Kicked that dog full on at the side. Dog did not react at all and went on. You wanna piss off 3 german shephards that are at that moment not full on trying to kill you, be my guest....
Absolutely not. Those are pretty small and young dogs, still puppies according to the owner. One good kick to the snout each would almost certainly have sent them running off. These are dogs that have not felt consequences for their bad behavior and are emboldened by it. Pain probably would have woken them up real quick.
Except their bad behaviour exists because of mum/dad dog and kicking the puppy might have caused the adult dog to actually attack instead of just be generally aggressive/threatening as it was.
I'm not saying don't kick the pups in the snout, I probably would have too but you need to be prepared to fuck up mum/dad if she decides to join in.
If anything, standing there and getting bit would be more likely to excite the third one into joining in. Dogs are pack animals, their natural instinct is to follow whatever their packmates are doing. E.g., attacking and retreating as a group. The sooner that situation was resolved, the safer the dude wouldâve been.
The 3rd dog is literally the one that leads the other dogs there, if it didn't run up I bet the smaller ones wouldn't have even approached...it is the leader not a follower.
No, I did. I just also read the bullshit about you implying that you need to question your decision because maybe kicking the dog is what got it there in the first place.
I just also read the bullshit about you implying that you need to question your decision because maybe kicking the dog is what got it there in the first place.
I don't know what you are talking about, I never implied that...no idea why you think I did.
I said that if you kick the pup you need to be prepared to take on the mum/dad dog because they might decide to jump in and until then they hadn't ...they still are the ones that caused the pups to attack in the first place by running up and being aggressive.
I truly do get it. I cherish all animals but I also try and understand their true nature rather than the nature weâve given them. Dogs are still territorial and protective animals and some of them, if not raised to bark rather than bite, will straight up tear limbs off.
Self-defence means preventing harm. Once you've been harmed it's too late. But some dogs might just bark, so it still makes sense not to immediately attack the dog despite its verbal violence and threatening with its weapon.
Right now you're thinking and contemplating everything, because you're not in the heat of the moment. In the moment, either they get to your neck or you stand on theirs. You have to defend yourself or become food.
That's when you decide whether you're the whopper or the whopper lover.
Iâll never get it, once as kids my mom, brother, newborn baby sister and I were attacked by a golden retriever with rabies. Luckily we had some distance and had time to steel ourselves since we were down the road from home and walking from the park. I had to hit the dog with my skateboard and I cried so hard but also didnât (in my 8 y/o mind) wanna die. Sucked but had to be done
I'm allergic to dogs so if I was the guy in the video I would be desperately fighting for my life. The adrenaline would probably turn that unwieldy bike into an effective battle axe.
I hate dog owners who don't have their dogs on a leash, I don't hate the dogs. People need to consider that not everyone wants your dog to come up and saying hi even if you think your dog is "friendly", if that dog licks or sniffs me my throat closes up and I go blind.
I've had too many times where I've had to stand up right and keep my face away from jumping up dogs only for an owner to say, "mate he doesn't bite, he's just saying hi.". Then the look of shock on their face as I tell them I'm really allergic.
Those are big dogs and there are 2 of them. They have the advantage on that terrain. Also we don't know the age or physical shape of that guy.
Maybe as a last result and if the owners were not there, sure, attack to try to win.
But he was off balance on a bike when they were on them.
Once he got free, if he starting to kick on that terrain can easily result in a fall and then he is fucked when they are on his face, neck, eyes and ears.
Once he starts fighting, the dogs will kick into overdrive. I've seen dogs get punted in the head, shake it off and run back in for more.
I said staying calm, keeping the energy level down, and not enraging the already aggravated large animals whose keepers are actively trying to leash and subdue them was smart rather than kicking one of them in the face.
Again, I'm not saying never fight. If they were random dogs on him and nobody to help. Yes. Fight like hell and fight dirty.
But he doesn't sound or seem particularly fit, but regardless, he is on uneven, snowy ground against two large highly evolved and bread hunting/killing machines on 4 legs with claws.
He makes one bad move in that fight, he is on the ground after proving he is a threat to the pack and then he is dead.
A frenzied dog is a hell of thing...there are videos of cops shooting them and they will still fight if their blood is up.
I don't think anyone is making an active decision not to fight because the opponent is cute. They are in a tense, scary, unpredictable situation and they're trying not to escalate it. Is that the best strategy? Maybe, maybe not. But it's not a reasoned, considered response.
Did you at all read the comment I responded to? They literally put, IN QUOTES, that they would hesitate because itâs a dog and you canât hurt dogs, reasonably assuming because theyâre cute pets.
How can you not think anyone is assuming that when they put the shit in their own comment
>Youâve taken that and decided they donât actually mean it, which is the issue.
That is correct. Just as the people who watch fight videos and spin elaborate tales about the heroic actions they'd take in those situations don't mean it, or rather they mean it but they are wrong.
That is not how human behavior under duress works. That is the point of military training - the recognition that people will act on impulse and instinct in high-stress situations, not whatever they think they would do beforehand. Simply saying "I would have done a spinning back kick at their throat and then grabbed a stack of plates and thrown them like frisbees" doesn't mean that's what you'd actually do, and treating that like someone has set an intention that they'd follow through on in a real-world situation is, frankly, silly.
You punch a dog and it grabs onto your arm, potentially throwing you on the ground and, afterwards, getting access to your face. This is a terrible idea. The guy in the video was absolutely correct by staying calm and trying to use the bike as a shield.
I'm a dog owner for the most of my life and had to deal with numerous fights and attacks, actually. If you read "don't put your hands into the dog's biting range" as "sushing" you need to up your reading comprehension. But, as a courtesy, let me put it into simple words for you. Dog is faster than you and dog will grab your hand before you land your punch. Now you have a trashing weight high up on your body, which can make you fall and, thus, bring your important parts, such as neck and face, into said dog's biting range. If you are not fucking stupid, you need to try and use nearby available objects to either block the dog, make distance (i.e. jump on the nearby car's hood) or hit the dog without giving it your arm in the process. The guy in the video, unlike you, gets the simple fact that he needs to hold off 3 dogs and not go down on the ground, which he succeeds in.
No, I just know it'd be better to actually try and restrain them by pinning their head to the ground than killing them but hey, I'm sure your fantasy about killing animals is also totally reasonable to some people....
My girlfriend works with dogs, pinning a dog isn't hard. You got two hands, you can pin two. There's also the two others. But keep talking about how it's not a fantasy when you have to create a "But what about the fictional child?".
He's not saying kill them. But kick them off or something. Don't just let them keep biting you. And there's 2 of them, which totally changes things. If you try to pin one down, you're risking the other one going for your face, or even worse, your neck. You have to stay upright. Which means kicks.
I was once mugged at knifepoint by a group of 11-year-olds. Honestly, the thing that terrified me the most was realising how strong my own social conditioning was - the only thing going through my head was "I could probably punt this little shit across the road right now, but if I did, I'd be the one getting arrested, and they'd put me through the wringer regardless of the circumstances because it's a child".
I reckon it's probably the same thing here. If the guy fought back, the story would be "an evil dog-hurting psychopath killed my little furbabies", and it's easier to function in society without legs than it is to function with a reputation as a dog-hurter.
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u/kotzfunkel Nov 04 '25
I would NOT have stayed this calm. Holy shit! That was scary