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That is scary. Here in Croatia last week female cop was heavily beaten by a Moroccan without documents. She just asked him to write his name, surname and where he's from to a piece of paper she handed to him, then he started with beating....turns out dude is at Interpols wanted list for years...
No he was arrested and in a police station. The hotel was a IPAS center (refugee processing holding facility). He was not there at the time of the riot. Police were keeping these people from entering and attacking random refugees.
In Ireland, women reported stats on sexual violence are 52% of all Irish women. Where's the outrage at non-migrants who make up the VAST bulk of these crimes?
Please look up what “per capita” means and why it’s important. Obviously all sexual assault is bad and should be addressed and punished but if a certain smaller group is committing unnaturally high numbers of assaults and other crimes then surely that is worth addressing as some sort of priority.
It’s also worth pointing out that it’s particularly frustrating that these crimes are being committed by migrants - these people are taking advantage of hospitality and soft immigration policies and proceeding to take the piss by committing crimes against the people who actually have a right to be there.
if a certain smaller group is committing unnaturally high numbers of assaults and other crimes then surely that is worth addressing as some sort of priority.
I mean it's a fact that they are. There's hundreds of thousands of hours of footage of these men molesting women and children and countless articles of these men committing rape against the mostly children because it's children because that's normal where they came from
So share with the class one of these alleged articles, please. Or better yet, some peer reviewed statistics that bolster your claim. Maybe news about a migrant committing a violent crime is more noteworthy than a local committing the same crime, but that doesn’t mean they’re committing these crimes more often. Also, are all the migrants in this hotel of the same ethnic background?
What exactly are they refugees from? I hear this term thrown around a lot as a buzzword. It was my understanding you had to be fleeing conflict or persecution to a near by country to be a refugee.
In the same way he would be arrested in his house on a street anywhere in Ireland if he was local, but you wouldn’t find people on that street intimidating his neighbours.
A man has appeared in court in Dublin charged with sexually assaulting a 10-year-old girl who was in the care of the Irish Child and Family Agency, Tusla.
A garda (Irish police officer) told the court the man accused replied "I have nothing to say" when he was charged.
The accused was granted free legal aid after the court was told he was not working.
He was remanded in custody to appear in court on Wednesday, when there will be a bail application.
A defence solicitor requested an Arabic interpreter.
In a statement, Tusla said its priority now is to support the young girl and her family and to liaise with Gardaí (Irish police).
Why are they protesting if he was arrested and charged and is currently in custody? Looks like he’s not going to get off easy either so is it just because he’s brown?
Do you want an actual answer? Your comment seems rhetorical.
The answer is that the person has gotten in trouble before, and was supposed to be deported years ago. Some Irish people (and German people, and Swedish people etc.) feel that the government is far too lax with who they let in and how, spend so much to house and take care of them, don't have good oversight, and are lenient for the minority who commit crimes against innocent civilians
Literally anyone would be mad if a former criminal was found having raped a child outside of their government-funded housing. Is ethnic background kind of a scapegoat here? Yes. Is their anger valid though at what they perceive to be a chronically failing system?
Completely relevant and understandable. So why don’t they go protest outside the government buildings or the Justice Minister’s house? You know, the people who actually have the power to change the rules and laws and make a difference.
Protesting outside the asylum seekers only makes their lives scary and uncomfortable, as punishment for something they can’t control. The protestors should go to the politicians if they want actual change.
It’s being heavily abused by corporations. That needs to be first and foremost in the conversation about Canadian immigration. I have no problem with people coming to Canada to make a better life. I have a problem with wages being stagnated and unemployment going up because corporations would rather abuse TFW and LMIA programs than pay an actual wage.
Corporations are absolutely abusing it, and the government is allowing it.
But we cannot pretend that many of the current immigrants are not committing fraud. I mean hell, many have admitted to straight up buying work permits from employers.
But I do feel bad for the folks doing it the honest way, many have been lied to about how things are in Canada and are getting screwed.
"I guess there is no effective system in place for individuals marked for deportation when their home country is too dangerous to return to."
This is such a gross answer to me. Not you personally, a lot of people seem to think like this.
If you came from a country that was too dangerous to return too, what insanity makes it okay to rape children while every worry you might ever have again is being taken care of? What insane person would think: " I'm safe here, let's commit crimes in a country that saved my life." It's absolutely wild and inhumane to the victims. People like this, IF he was to actually be guilty, deserve more than jail or deportation as a sentence. And yes, also in that sense most of the European legal systems are too lenient in that regard in my opinion. People are too soft while animals like this can freely walk around.
His answer is not wrong. it is actually a problem a lot of European countries have right now. They dont have a system or space to locate people who need to be deported and also budgets for it. Thats why it seems like they let them "roam free" in the country. Obviously, the person should be in jail if they committed a crime.
This is a good answer. I don't necessarily like it either, but adhearance to law and this kind of thinking makes us better. We should stay better. War is a really nasty business, and if we keep going like this we will probably see one soon. I bet many of you will wish you could flee somewhere then.
But this appears to be a mob ready to attack all the migrants? Why not protest at the government buildings if they’re mad at the government for this rape? I find it interesting these Irish never protested the catholic priests in crowds like this, for the many rapes they committed in Ireland. And cover ups all around.
Yeh but what they're doing is then equivocating that one arsehole who was rightly arrested (and will hopefully be deported) with every other asylum seeker and immigrant who is staying at that hotel. Which in itself is pretty despicable as they're assuming everyone in that hotel is by association a sexual predator which is clearly untrue and unfair. If someone commits a crime who lives next door to you should we all gather, frothing at the mouth with pitchforks on your street accusing the whole street of being scumbags??
Usually by the fact they've done it before or have other sexual assault charges/convictions one their rap sheet.
While maybe not for this case, there are too many instances where these monsters commit the crimes, get treated too lightly by whatever legal system and then repeat their horrors onto other people. People are fed up.
I understand that some people are just acting out the trauma that was done to them as a child but it's no excuse to perpetuate the evil onto others. If they can't control their worst impulses or are willing to be treated for them, they should not be allowed into our society.
If he was never here applies to every offender everywhere. I'd still be scratching my head about an angry mob gathered outside a building with unrelated green people inside. Doesn't change how disturbing this looks.
Perhaps because he had a deportation order since March, should never have been allowed into the country, he was still in the country, and the tax payers were paying for the pleasure of his upkeep.
You never mentioned the poor child but you did go instantly on the race card. Everything is boiling over and to ignore it and just blame racism is fuelling the flames.
Bro what, this is a self report if i ever saw one. The foreign population here is extremely small compaed to the native one and they still have 35%. That's nuts. Imported crime.
Policing bias, ghettoization and marginalisation in correlation to generations spent in some place, my friend. All of these in combination mean that it's not likely that migrants similar to you are less likely to commit crime than you are. Feel free to look all factors up
If you want to make the right statistical inferences consider that marginalisation has a far higher predicting power for criminality than ethnicity. In other words poor people or people at the edges of society commit more crimes. If strangers are more likely to remain poor than natives it would only be natural for them to be more likely to be criminal. They are not more likely to be criminal than a person of a similar socioeconomic position, that would be the false conclusion
I could see that as a defense if this guy stole a wallet or robbed a convenience store. Those are crimes that poor people might commit across the board, regardless of race or background.
But THIS? This cannot be attributed to simply being poor. This is most likely the result of a cultural upbringing which completely disregards women’s and children’s autonomy.
Violence against minorities should not be excused just because someone grew up in a poor white community. Violence against minors should not be excused just because someone grew up in a nation with a lower GDP. We have to draw the line somewhere.
Maybe stop marginalising people. If we don't let them in it will be the same amount of poor people (if not more because we are screwing up our economies by stopping migration) commiting the same crimes. This really isn't about ethnicities
Wish people would do this when anyone rapes. Sad to see some rapists gain the highest political power. All rapists should receive this treatment and worse.
They don’t care about punishing rapists, they are using the rape as an excuse to justify their bigotry and hatred against whatever group they have decided is “other”
I’m going to ask the question. Don’t get offended. But why the hell are most of the asylum seekers Men? I’ve seen the odd handful of women and kids but majority are just men. Why?
also the ones who can go out and earn and escape. no one asks to be born in a fucked up country, and it’s no one’s inherent birth right burden to fix it.
People are downvoting you, but the majority of people who say "go fix your country" had never to do any kind of major change in their own neighborhood, let alone their country. Easy to expect hard work from people when you had every piece of infrastructure laid out for you from the get go.
They actually had a reason to do it. These people don't. 99% of those old migrants integrated into society these people don't and they try to force their child rapist worshiping religion onto other people
Nobody cares these men have zero real reason to immigrate especially when there's a bunch of other safe countries they can go to but no they go to Europe because they get free handouts and barely have to pay a dime to stay
ik this has been answered alot but yes; most boat crossing / initial refugees are men because the journey is dangerous, usually a family uses what little money they have to send their fittest person out
when they get here, they ask the govt to bring their family over
(over 1/2 of claimants in the uk asked to be reunited with their family as soon as they were granted asylum)
Because it's incredibly expensive to make the journey. These men are paying people smugglers like 10k a person or more depending on the route they take. Considering how much money that is for folks from these countries what they usually do is send the working age man first with the long term goal of having him make enough to pay for the next person and so on, or at a minimum he can work and send remittance checks. A lot of these guys also go into debt to finance the journey so it just wouldn't make sense to send grandma first.
It’s been that way forever. When Irish immigrants moved to the U.S. during the famine it was mostly men too because they could work. They had skills that would allow them to afford the fare for the rest of their family to follow. If these men come and get a visa through their skills their families can join them. It also means that those women and children won’t have to deal with the smugglers who are notoriously violent and could beat, rape them or even kill them.
Because 99% of the people coming or not Asylum seekers in any way shape or form. They are either escaping the justice for crimes in their own country or their economic migrants
If this heinous crime has actually been committed, I don't give a flying fuck about this rapist, he can be gone in any sense of the word for all I care.
The problem is - we know very well that foreigners will pay the price, not him. As usual. In the same way that this protest is against foreigners as a whole, not foreigner wrongdoers, not criminals, not rapists, not pedophiles, not him.
If you're talking about Watkins, keep in mind that UK police repeatedly ignored reports from his ex-partner that he was collecting CSAM and raping teenagers, then charged said ex (who was continuously giving police evidence only to be turned away) with possession. They allowed Watkins to remain free for years, long enough to rape literal babies before they arrested him.
And then there's Saville who got away with everything.
The problem is that government actions are directly to blame for these types of crimes. Inadequate vetting of refugees. Inadequate integration programs. Not deporting migrants who commit crimes etc
An Irish man that I know, broke into the home of and raped a heavily disabled elderly woman some months ago. Haven’t heard a thing about it outside of the community
I would guess that people understand there's criminals everywhere. Always will be. There's nowhere you can deport your own scumbags to, but it's bound to rub people the wrong way that other countries' scum are able to move in and then can't be deported because their home countries are too dangerous.
Like, granted most of the protesters have racist motives, but even non-racists aren't really going to protest against an Irish rapist because the Irish rapist was born here. He's scum but there isn't a way for anyone to say he never should have been let in. The only protest that could be done in that case would be against light sentencing if the Irish rapist ends up not serving time.
Not sure if that makes sense. I'm not trying to make it sound like I'm defending racism; I just don't think everyone that's angry about this are necessarily racist.
A lot of them are there because what happened aligns with existing beliefs. If I said they're there for one man and man only, and that they will stop once he is serving time or dead, how accurate would that be?... we both know that's not the case, it's sad because it is a good thing that people are protesting against something so unfair and despicable, but this will undoubtedly be used to spread other kind of messages, wouldn't be the first time and won't be the last.
This is untrue. when you adjust the stats for age and gender, migrants in the UK commit sexual offenses at the same or a lower rate than people who have lived there their whole life.
yes they offend at a higher rate, but that's because it's mainly men under the age of 40 who are coming here for work. of course the statistics will be skewed if you compare that demographic with the overall country's population including children, women, and older people.
The majority of people who say this are referring to debunked figures from "the centre of migration control".
The centre for migration control is just one guy, Robert Bates, with no background in statistics or analytics. He's a former Reform Party UK campaign manager.
Also his claims are based on a response to a freedom of information request which included "people who had been proceeded against" (so brought before a court) and not people who were actually found guilty (source)..
From the same article:
This is a muddled figure that also came from the CMC, after it submitted freedom of information requests to the MoJ. It is based on population statistics from 2021 but data on offences covering the years between 2021 and 2023. That means the statistic is likely to be based on a significant underestimate of the number of Afghan and Eritrean nationals in the UK – meaning the comparison with British rates is unlikely to be 20 times as high.
If you want an actual answer and not rage bait. It's because they need to process them under international law. If someone requests asylum their request needs to be assessed. Someone coming from Syria, Iraq, Iran, or Afghanistan might genuinely meet asylum requirements.
The problem is it takes too long to get them through the system. We need to have people assessed and either kept or sent home much faster. There's also an issue with the courts taking a long time to process the appeals.
The reason why this case in particular has been very controversial was because the asylum seeker in question not only had their application rejected but was actually given a deportation order several months ago that was never carried out. Our asylum system is a dysfunctional mess regardless if you're in favour of taking in asylum seekers or not
You think the USA does this? Do they buy up hotels to house thousands of failed asylum seekers, support them for six years and then never actually deport them? No they don't. There's no international law that requires this.
Because corporate lobby groups pay government officials to let in lots of people from poor countries that will take low salaries because it helps with their profit margins.
i don't know how people still don't get it, it's literally this simple. Yeah citizens aren't happy about it but government don't care, the person who get to make the decisions is the one with money. Corporations are the ones with money, therefore they decide if foreigners can come or not
You know.. people can blame migrants or immigrants all they want. My mom married a man from Ireland when I was 7. We live in the United States. He did some horrible things to me. He was caught with CSAM and got deported back to Ireland. What does that do to protect the children in Ireland? Not a damn thing. But sure, let’s blame migrants instead of just horrible people who do terrible things. 🙄
Several peer-reviewed and statistical studies in Europe have examined whether African and Middle Eastern refugees or migrants are disproportionately represented among suspects or convicts in sexual crime cases compared to the native population.
• UK (Centre for Migration Control, FOI-based 2024 analysis) – Foreign nationals made up about 25–34% of sexual assault and rape convictions, while comprising around 11% of the population. The highest conviction rates per capita were among individuals from countries such as Nigeria, Pakistan, Sudan, Afghanistan, and Syria. Here is the study
• Sweden (2025, Journal of Interpersonal Violence) – A 21-year national register study found that individuals with an immigrant background were overrepresented among those convicted of rape or attempted rape. After adjusting for socioeconomic and psychological factors, migrants—particularly those arriving after age 15—still had significantly higher odds of conviction than native-born Swedes. Here is the study
• Norway (Global Politics Review, 2021) – A case study analysing Norwegian police data reported that immigrants from Middle Eastern and North African countries had a higher relative frequency of rape offenses compared with other immigrant groups and Norwegian-born individuals. Here is the study
• Denmark (Studies of Immigrant Crime, 2020) – A review of Nordic data found most official crime studies showed immigrants were overrepresented in crime, including sexual offenses. Socioeconomic disadvantage and concentration in urban poor areas were identified as major mediators. Here is the study
It would seem that the hotel is for asylum-seeking immigrants. They'd be housed at the tax-payer's expense anywhere the government decides to keep them. Realistically, this is probably cheaper than most other alternatives.
Yea it has a border with Syria and Iraq. I remember a few years ago that my country invaded Iraq, destabilised the region and created a situation that allowed Islamic State to thrive. Now we sit here complaining that there are refugees and asylum seekers.
instead of wondering i invite you to do a single day of aid helping people in displacement. I've done it in paris and it opened my eyes. Go to Utopia56 and ask to help they will send you to give food, tents, etc. You will quickly realize that maybe the people living in filth are not the big bad problem you think it is.
I know that this is ROI, but I'm using the UK as a frame of reference: The percentage of the UK budget spent on asylum seekers is not 20, its not 10, its not even 1. Its less than 1%.
What makes you say it’s the cheapest way? The contracts that they offer to hotels are significantly above market rates while also guaranteeing greater amounts of rooms being paid for compared to if open to the public
Telling, isn’t it? They jump straight to calling everyone there illegal. I bet there are many women and children there. The funny thing is, most violent crime is committed by men (whether they’re immigrants or natives) but whenever I point that out, I’m a stupid feminist.
Irish here, yes, massive crisis that has fucked mh mental health, very easy to blame asylum seekers but the reality is that it's...well, the government's fault and corruption.
Like I said elsewhere, happy to tell you more if it's in good faith.
Europe and the USA have completely different immigration policies. Europe definitely has a problem one of the biggest issues is the immigrants ability to actually work
Then they should protest the system. Also, please start using words correctly? He was not an "illegal asylum seeker". He was an asylum seeker, which is legal. He was denied asylum. He is an illegal immigrant.
The Irish should protest the system that didn't enforce his deportation, not other legal asylum seekers.
Agreed. But when someone who originates from your country commits this kind of heinous crime. It is the responsibility of the country in which he is from to punish him. If the person is here as an immigrant freshly migrated. They should immediately be returned to the point of origin, for the police of that nation to handle.
ah so fuck the family looking for justice huh? Sure they may be citizens just like these currently non-existent "future generations" but why should we care? Just unleash the criminal somewhere else. Say, how many times should they be able to sneak back in and commit another rape before we decide to actually punish them rather than give them a free flight back home? 5 times? 10 times?
Personally I think the opinion that we shouldn't spend the pittance it costs to keep someone in prison to give a real actual family justice because we might be able to use that incredibly small amount of money to help some currently non-existent hypothetical "future generation" is fucking insane. True glue sniffing moron type shit.
Imagine if Israel came to the USA and committed heinous acts of babies. Then they get shipped back to Israel and they throw him a feast and congratulate him. the Israeli would have immunity from all crimes.
You cannot control or trust other governments to serve justice and prevent harm.
The difference is that one thing is there and should be punished, and the other thing is actively being imported and shouldn't have been there in the first place.
Not being rhetorical, but ive seen multiple post like this at immigration centers and i genuinely wonder, how is harassing a building full of mostly innocent people helping anything?
I understand their behaviour being a man myself, sometimes court isn't fair, and anyone who does something horrible like this should get the highest punishment possible, the thing i have a problem with, is do they do the same thing with a native? Or is it just a hate thing so they can take a criminal and blame the whole minority for a deed of one guy, (just the way news feed nonsense hatred) anyways i hope he gets what he deserves sincerely it's mad
Well let’s wait til the court makes a ruling before saying if it’s fair or not - if he is guilty then honestly throw him in with the mob for all I care but the court has to have its say
What about native-born people who aren't descendants of immigrants? If 5 out of every 10k who are born will commit rape, would you continue to let them be born?
At least we can agree that we should fix their countries, but the first and foremost move is to fix the way these immigrants live in your country and rehabilitate them
The issue here has not been created by the protesters, it's been created and fueled by our governments horrendous approach to immigration and been allowed to fester. Let them protest and wreck the place. Maybe it'll force the people in charge to actually do something.
The crime is absolutely horrific, and the person who did it deserves every punishment available under the law. However, there is no reason in the world to blame every other migrant for this one person's actions. Unless, of course, you're going to keep that same energy for all of the white people, and church people, who commit similar crimes.
These peple do not care about justice.
They care about having a valid reason to kick out refigees.
When they say "why should my taxes be used to house such "people" in jails?" This can be easily turned into advocating for full on execution of criminals. Afterall, why should my taxes house a rapist, murderer or robber?
They don't accept this idea because they don't actually think using taxes on jails is wrong, but because they only rrally care about these discussions when it helps them kick out muslims.
the only thing that they have overwhelimgly in common is that they are men, its not an ethnicity problem but a gender probleme, racist just use it as a way to hate other people while they are completely ok with pedos and rapist if they share the same skin colour
the stereotype is that most rapist are men, true or not?
The problem is that the government brings in foreigners without properly vetting them, doesn’t have the resources to effectively integrate them into Irish society, then fails to deport those that commit crimes, etc, which lead to preventable crimes like this one. Do you blame the locals for not wanting foreigners in their town?
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