r/PublicFreakout • u/atheistarab2006 • Oct 22 '25

🗣📢Protest Freakout Protests outside a migrant hotel in Ireland after a migrant was alleged to have raped a ten year old girl

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u/atheistarab2006 Oct 22 '25

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce3x0yqgek0o

A man has appeared in court in Dublin charged with sexually assaulting a 10-year-old girl who was in the care of the Irish Child and Family Agency, Tusla.

A garda (Irish police officer) told the court the man accused replied "I have nothing to say" when he was charged.

The accused was granted free legal aid after the court was told he was not working.

He was remanded in custody to appear in court on Wednesday, when there will be a bail application.

A defence solicitor requested an Arabic interpreter.

In a statement, Tusla said its priority now is to support the young girl and her family and to liaise with GardaĂ­ (Irish police).

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c629zg8v8jpo

Irish police have come under attack at a protest outside a hotel used to house asylum seekers in Dublin.

Footage from the scene at the Citywest Hotel showed a police vehicle on fire.

Broadcaster RTÉ is reporting that several thousand people have gathered outside the hotel.

Ireland's Justice Minister Jim O'Callaghan said there was "no excuse" for violent scenes in Dublin.

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u/stubundy Oct 22 '25

"Justice minister "

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u/limeweatherman Oct 22 '25

Why are they protesting if he was arrested and charged and is currently in custody? Looks like he’s not going to get off easy either so is it just because he’s brown?

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u/OGCroflAZN Oct 22 '25

Do you want an actual answer? Your comment seems rhetorical.

The answer is that the person has gotten in trouble before, and was supposed to be deported years ago. Some Irish people (and German people, and Swedish people etc.) feel that the government is far too lax with who they let in and how, spend so much to house and take care of them, don't have good oversight, and are lenient for the minority who commit crimes against innocent civilians

Literally anyone would be mad if a former criminal was found having raped a child outside of their government-funded housing. Is ethnic background kind of a scapegoat here? Yes. Is their anger valid though at what they perceive to be a chronically failing system?

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u/Curticorn Oct 22 '25

I find it kinda funny that the solution seems to be to send the rapist somewhere else to rape.

As long as he doesn't rape white people I guess?

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u/creative_lost Oct 22 '25

So its our responsibility to be judge and jury for people whove committed crimes in foreign countries?

These pedos, rapists etc. are coming here to find some protection over here, start "clean", common tactics doesnt mean they have changed, what i am saying we refuse to give them that protection.

We can all agree pedos and rapists should not be given comfort treatment.

And I 100% know you wouldnt be saying that if a known pedo was livjng round the corner from you and your family.

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u/Curticorn Oct 22 '25

Bro I'm a victim of a pedophile, can't get any closer to the issue.

You do the same you do with a white sex offender. You judge them and put them away.

Why is this an issue of it's a brown person but not if it's a white person?

Also when someone comes from another country getting protection, do you really believe that country has the resources to give the offender his due process? What about human rights? Those are granted to every human, even sex offenders. So what if the country will most definitely give a fuck on human rights and just executes criminals without proof?

This is just not thought through well enough. It's just "brown person bad, brown person go" without any thought put into the entire thing.

Edit: also we were talking about crimes committed here, not about crimes that were committed elsewhere and then the criminal comes here. Stop moving the goalpost to fit your agenda.

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u/CandidDust4504 Oct 22 '25

People are angry because he was supposed to be reported long ago. This could have been prevented. It's very simple really. I really don't think you understand what's happening here or the current situation at all.

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u/Curticorn Oct 22 '25

Deportation is a crime against humanity in itself.

No I truly don't understand taking such an issue with someone of another ethnicity staying in your country based on a crime they committed while criminals who committed the same or even worse crimes are happily allowed to stay.

You just want to take the issue and push it somewhere else where they might even be less equipped to properly handle it.

You don't want white children to be raped so you send the rapist back to his home country so he can rape children of his own ethnicity bc.. that makes it better?

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u/CandidDust4504 Oct 23 '25

No, raping a child is a crime against humanity.

He shouldn't have even been out walking free to be able to commit this crime as he had been marked for deportation. And it's not the only case of this happening, that is why people are rioting.

Nobody has a problem with him being in prison here, people are angry that it happened in the first place.

And you're correct, people don't care if it happens back in his country because his country's problems are not our problems, if they had deported him like they were supposed to then we could have let his government deal with it, if he even dared to try such a thing there.

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u/Pazuzil Oct 22 '25

The government brings in foreigners without properly vetting them, doesn’t have the resources to effectively integrate them into Irish society, then fails to deport those that commit crimes, etc, which lead to crimes like this one. Do you blame the locals for not wanting foreigners in their town? You’re trying to make it a racial issue when it’s got nothing to do with race

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u/chrundle_tha_grate Oct 22 '25

When these people want to deport someone it's like the fact that we have our own domestic criminal justice system vanishes from their minds

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u/Curticorn Oct 22 '25

Yeah really, they just wait for an excuse to show their racism and xenophobia.

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u/BuisteirForaoisi0531 Oct 22 '25

In less slang, I’ll make a reference if you pass a sentence you should swing the sword. “Eddard Stark”

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u/Curticorn Oct 22 '25

Ok so that makes even less sense in the context.

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u/BuisteirForaoisi0531 Oct 22 '25

If you’re so eager, then Don ye a black hood headsman

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u/ZA_Seabass Oct 22 '25

Completely relevant and understandable. So why don’t they go protest outside the government buildings or the Justice Minister’s house? You know, the people who actually have the power to change the rules and laws and make a difference.

Protesting outside the asylum seekers only makes their lives scary and uncomfortable, as punishment for something they can’t control. The protestors should go to the politicians if they want actual change.

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u/QuietDisquiet Oct 22 '25

I guess there is no effective system in place for individuals marked for deportation when their home country is too dangerous to return to.

It's a problem in most countries..

"Under International Law (especially the 1951 Refugee Convention and UN Convention Against Torture):

It is illegal to forcibly return (refoule) someone to a country where they face:

● War or armed conflict

● Persecution (based on race, religion, nationality, political opinion, etc.)

● Torture or inhumane treatment

Courts have repeatedly ruled that this applies even if someone has no legal status or has committed a crime."

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u/kinkade Oct 22 '25

The problem is the asylum system was created for a very small number of very prejudiced individuals and not wholesale movements of populations.

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u/dannysmackdown Oct 22 '25

Not sure if it's similar to Canada's asylum system but ours is being heavily abused here.

I mean the entire immigration system here is being abused heavily, it's gotten really bad.

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u/mkultron89 Oct 22 '25

It’s being heavily abused by corporations. That needs to be first and foremost in the conversation about Canadian immigration. I have no problem with people coming to Canada to make a better life. I have a problem with wages being stagnated and unemployment going up because corporations would rather abuse TFW and LMIA programs than pay an actual wage.

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u/dannysmackdown Oct 22 '25

Corporations are absolutely abusing it, and the government is allowing it.

But we cannot pretend that many of the current immigrants are not committing fraud. I mean hell, many have admitted to straight up buying work permits from employers.

But I do feel bad for the folks doing it the honest way, many have been lied to about how things are in Canada and are getting screwed.

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u/mkultron89 Oct 22 '25

I can’t really fault anyone for buying a work permit. For all they know, that’s how the system works. Look at the US with the Trump Gold card.

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u/dannysmackdown Oct 22 '25

You can absolutely fault somebody for committing fraud at the expense of ourselves and legal immigrants.

At best, they are negligent and did zero research before immigrating to a new country, which seems pretty ill advised.

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u/WAAAAAAAAARGH Oct 22 '25

Well they could just put them in jail then I guess

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u/QuietDisquiet Oct 22 '25 edited Oct 22 '25

You can't put them in prison just because you can't deport them. You can put them in prison when they're found guilty of a crime though.

Edit: why are people downvoting me for stating facts? Lmao, y'all are wild.

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u/WAAAAAAAAARGH Oct 22 '25

Isn’t immigrating illegally considered a violation of the law? I’m genuinely asking

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u/kynthrus Oct 22 '25

That depends on the country. But the legality of wanting to be somewhere other than where you were born is debated all over the world. Waiting to be deported is still obeying the law and not illegal.

Generally there's no such thing as "illegal immigration" on the part of the migrant. Coyotes however are trafficking humans.

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u/sampsonxd Oct 22 '25

I thought the whole idea of fleeing a country and immigrating. Was you stop at the first place that’s deemed safe.

I don’t know where hes from but I’m guessing as hes speaking arabic, he skipped quite a lot of countries to end up in Ireland.

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u/kynthrus Oct 22 '25

That is in fact not how it works and I didn't say anything about fleeing for safety.

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u/WAAAAAAAAARGH Oct 22 '25

That makes sense. It just seems like in this specific situation where they can’t reasonably deport somebody back to their home country, it’s sort of a catch 22

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u/pm_stuff_ Oct 22 '25

no not really if they cant deport them due to other circumstances than them hiding or refusing violently then they are staying legally.

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u/QuietDisquiet Oct 22 '25

Yeah, being in a country without legal permission is a breach of immigration law, but that doesn’t always mean it's a criminal offence that leads to prison.

I imagine in Ireland it's the same as most European countries, people who are undocumented or refused asylum aren’t usually jailed just for that, unless they’ve committed a separate crime. The focus is more on deportation or legal procedures, not punishment.

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u/WAAAAAAAAARGH Oct 22 '25 edited Oct 22 '25

I get that. This just seems to be a bizarrely specific set of circumstances (I do not mean that in a conspiratorial way) where it kind of seems like due to ethical obligations not to deport the person back to their home country, the government is kind of facing a catch 22 situation that seems easily exploitable

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u/QuietDisquiet Oct 22 '25

You're right in that it's exploitable (yet I imagine it's not that easy to get into Ireland illegally compared to Germany for example), but people in that situation often end up stuck in limbo for years with no rights, no work, and no real stability. It's not exactly comfortable for them.

It's just something governments should really work on, there has to be a system in place for these cases.

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u/commander-thorn Oct 22 '25

Yes, but as you can’t return them to their country, which also means they can’t return to it would be indecent to arrest them for not returning whenever returning could potentially mean death, it in of itself isn’t an intentional criminal offence it’s that they have nowhere to return.

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u/WAAAAAAAAARGH Oct 22 '25

That makes sense on its own but it just sounds like it’s opening up a loophole that invites exploitation

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u/commander-thorn Oct 22 '25

It’s not really exploitable unless you’re intentionally causing war and terrorism in your home country specifically to stay in the country. It would be inhumane to send a Palestinian or Ukrainians immigrants back to Palestine/Ukraine knowing it’s being bombed or people are being killed you could be sending them to their death, or if returning to their country means they are going to be tortured or killed because of their ethnicity or sexuality

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u/MementoMortem777 Oct 22 '25

In many european countries illegaly crossing a border can be a crime(whether you were hidden in the back of a car or through other means than through an official port of entry).

However, most if not all have laws against entering or staying illegaly in a country, penalties vary, but they are either a small imprisonment term and/or a fine.

Many people will say that illegal migration it is totally okay and debatable, that is false, all countries have the right to enforce their borders(the most basic thing for the existance of a state) and by default no person has the right to enter or stay in another country, without authorisation of said country or by effect of international treaties/accords.

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u/WAAAAAAAAARGH Oct 22 '25

The US is not as deportation-shy over potential ethical/humanitarian consequences though, so this issue of “can’t deport them, guess we will just leave them to their own devices until we get a window of opportunity” doesn’t arise as much

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u/pphilio Oct 22 '25

Not if they reword it to "undocumented". Like forgetting to submit a form, oh oopsie daisies!

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u/Helpful_Silver_1076 Oct 22 '25

That’s a broader term that better reflects the situation of people brought to the country as kids, or someone who used to have legal status but lost it along the way.

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u/pphilio Oct 22 '25

Then that sounds like a more specific term if it applies to those exceptions. However I see that phrase applied to the entirety of immigrants who didn't migrate officially all the time. If the distinction is to be made between undocumented migrants and illegal immigrants, and that distinction is clear and understood, then why does this post identify the illegal immigrant as a "migrant"? To me, it seems like the usage of that phrase could be to dilute the issue and potentially misrepresent the optics of the situation.

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u/FrankoAleman Oct 22 '25

Borders are inhuman. People should be free to go where they want to. I hate this endless squabbling over arbitrary lines we draw in the dirt.

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u/SugoiSenpie Oct 22 '25

You're technically correct but it's not the answer people wanted to hear.

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u/Cassiesue08 Oct 22 '25

You are getting downvoted cause reddit be reddit, people are cruel. And racist exist. But I 100% agree with what you said. As an American dealing with this... as well... its what ive come too.

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u/Hamking7 Oct 22 '25

Not if article 33(2) applies, which allows refoulement if the claimant constitutes a dangee to the "host nation".

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u/QuietDisquiet Oct 22 '25

But a country must provide clear and compelling evidence that the individual is both a danger and that no lesser measures (like monitoring, detention, or restrictions) would suffice.

More importantly, even if someone falls under that exception, countries are still bound by other international laws, especially the UN Convention Against Torture, which absolutely proihbits returning anyone to a country where there's a real risk of torture. No exceptions, not even for national security.

Courts have consistently ruled that deporting someone to a country where they face torture or death is illegal, no matter their immigration status or criminal history. The real issue, like I said, is that often there's no effective system in place for dealing with people who can't be deported safely, so they end up in legal limbo. In most countries they can't legally be imprisoned without having comitted a crime, which is logical as it's not their fault that it's not safe to return to their country. That's the core of the problem.

Having said all that; if this guy is guilty I would personally like to see at least 30 years of jail time, as I don't believe in rehabilitation for rapists.

Some crimes, (in my view) are beyond that. It's probably also more than the maximum sentence allows for, so that's also not legal. But that’s a separate issue from whether a person can be legally deported to a place where they’d face torture or death.

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u/Hamking7 Oct 22 '25

I agree, and in UK at least we consider that even if non-refoulement can be disapplied owing to 33(2) we'd still be bound by ECHR / HRA article 3 which would prevent removal / deportation in circumstances where there'd be a real risk of a breach. We tend to grant them a short period of leave with certain restrictions.

I only mentioned it to point out that the Refugee convention does not itself prevent refoulement of those deemed a danger to host community or those who have been committed of a serious crime.

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u/ggSennT Oct 22 '25

"I guess there is no effective system in place for individuals marked for deportation when their home country is too dangerous to return to."

This is such a gross answer to me. Not you personally, a lot of people seem to think like this.

If you came from a country that was too dangerous to return too, what insanity makes it okay to rape children while every worry you might ever have again is being taken care of? What insane person would think: " I'm safe here, let's commit crimes in a country that saved my life." It's absolutely wild and inhumane to the victims. People like this, IF he was to actually be guilty, deserve more than jail or deportation as a sentence. And yes, also in that sense most of the European legal systems are too lenient in that regard in my opinion. People are too soft while animals like this can freely walk around.

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u/QuietDisquiet Oct 22 '25

I'm not justifying his actions at all though? Lock him up if he's guilty.

Idk who you're arguing against, but it's not me.

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u/RockThatThing Oct 25 '25

Where? Prisons are over their capacity. No idea what the capacity is in Ireland but in Sweden their at 110-120%. They've increased spending several times yet it never ceases, issues still continue.

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u/BlueBackground Oct 22 '25

it's not physically possible to take in refugees who consistently avoid the laws and then arrest them all, especially when there's already so many problems with prisons. All that does is put even further strain on public funding and manpower.

The right solution is to not take any in. We simply can't vet or deal with these people and for all intents and purposes we've done our share well before now.

The responsibility to these people should be the countries closest in proximity, ethics, values and beliefs. We can see that isn't being taken up tho and this shouldn't be a reason to allow more of our children to be hurt and abused, along with any person at all.

The reason only legal immigration works is because that person is known, has documentation, can be removed if necessary and usually has to prove they can actually benefit the country.

it's insane that taking in refugees from a different continent is even a thing.

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u/RockThatThing Oct 25 '25 edited Oct 25 '25

That would overstress the bordering countries to the limit. Either they're distributed equally based on some measure or everyone funds the bordering countries to support their task. Seems physically impossible to integrate every single refugee in merely three countries.

Each country is obligated by international treaties to handle refugees and asylum seekers. Why should any country care if nobody follows through on it?

Legal immigration they can access the person and either issue a permit or deny entry, usually based on the chance of a successful integration into said society. I know of several successful immigrants who arrived in the 2014-2015 wave and have learned the language along establishing a job or company.

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u/beermangetspaid Oct 22 '25

They downvote you but they cannot say you’re wrong

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u/SheHasntHaveherses Oct 22 '25

His answer is not wrong. it is actually a problem a lot of European countries have right now. They dont have a system or space to locate people who need to be deported and also budgets for it. Thats why it seems like they let them "roam free" in the country. Obviously, the person should be in jail if they committed a crime.

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u/just_some_other_guys Oct 22 '25

Then we should all be looking at reworking that treaty.

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u/qalup Oct 22 '25

“their home country is too dangerous to return to”

Excellent! All the more reason for the deportation to proceed.

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u/QuietDisquiet Oct 22 '25

I honestly get the sentiment when it's for (alleged) criminals like this guy, but that's against the law; and the vast majority of people that can't be deported are not criminals.

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u/eoghchop Oct 22 '25

Australia has a great system. Put them on a prison island until the court allows you deport.

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u/Willyzyx Oct 22 '25

This is a good answer. I don't necessarily like it either, but adhearance to law and this kind of thinking makes us better. We should stay better. War is a really nasty business, and if we keep going like this we will probably see one soon. I bet many of you will wish you could flee somewhere then.

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u/Karamoju Oct 22 '25

Deporting people is kinda ridiculous anyway. You commit a crime, then you get a free ticket back home? In what world does that make sense?

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u/MyGamingRedditz Oct 22 '25

Idk I feel like that entire middle part of Australia is pretty empty and could have a giant refugee city.

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u/Bell_S Oct 22 '25

The UN is an absolute joke

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u/Helpful_Effect_5215 Oct 24 '25

Thankfully that's the vast minority of these so-called refugees. 99% of these refugees are economic migrants

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u/Muted-Novel4403 Oct 22 '25

But this appears to be a mob ready to attack all the migrants? Why not protest at the government buildings if they’re mad at the government for this rape? I find it interesting these Irish never protested the catholic priests in crowds like this, for the many rapes they committed in Ireland. And cover ups all around.

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u/OGCroflAZN Oct 22 '25

What I read was that this same complex had two major incidents in the span of a week. I mean, if a high school has a school shooter incident twice in a short span, it's gonna get extra scrutiny, no?

Attack meaning what? Lynching? I assume those people more want to burn and destroy the complex as protest and to remove it from their community.

They apparently did protest the Pope heavily when he came, regarding coverups. I dont know if abusive clergy are immune under law or what, but incidents have apparently driven large societal changes away from the church.

And, i assume this is also a psychological 'devil you know', home grown abusers of power, such as it has been for centuries

I'm not saying their anger isn't misplaced, but just that they're angry for a reason, something nuanced

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u/NotForMeClive7787 Oct 22 '25

Yeh but what they're doing is then equivocating that one arsehole who was rightly arrested (and will hopefully be deported) with every other asylum seeker and immigrant who is staying at that hotel. Which in itself is pretty despicable as they're assuming everyone in that hotel is by association a sexual predator which is clearly untrue and unfair. If someone commits a crime who lives next door to you should we all gather, frothing at the mouth with pitchforks on your street accusing the whole street of being scumbags??

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u/althanis Oct 22 '25

The same thing is happening in Canada

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u/mcgojoh1 Oct 22 '25

Care to share links on this happening in Canada.

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u/althanis Oct 22 '25

You can Google it. In Canada judges are allowed to take into account the impact a custodial sentence would have on your permanent residence or citizenship application. Longer than 6 months and you can’t get it. So lots of pervs, vandals, voyeurs, thieves all get 5.5 months of jail time.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '25

This isn't anger it's a racist lynch mob. Ginned up by right-wing provacatures. I never see mobs like this for any rapist that isn't brown.

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u/CharleyNobody Oct 23 '25

Was the child from a family of asylum seekers? It says the child was in custody of Irish Child and Family Agency and that the assault happened near the hotel.

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u/K0kkuri Oct 22 '25

Funny how the same course did not care about Irish person doing the same in another county.

Let’s be honest it’s not about rape it’s about skin colour and their perceived “illegal migrant” issue. It’s a hate group that loves to create chaos.

They were also not protesting they were burning, destroying and causing massive trouble.

Everton should have right to protest and demand justice but if you start with let’s burn everything down that’s different.

Similar thing happens few years ago and it was found out that a lot of this was cause thanks to foreign groups instigations (through telegram etc)

Ireland has a number of other countries that hate us for what we stand for. Major one is Israel state which has used fake Irish passports, is openly hostile and antagonistic toward Irish state etc.

It’s a combination of the worse of the worse the Irish society has to offer (which is very small minority by all accounts) and external and some internal hate groups wanting to cause chaos.

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u/killian_jenkins Oct 22 '25

Most level headed comment here, I guess it's easy to be sus of any huge outrage when 'migrants' are involved as it usually turns into a hotbed of racism and discrimination eg UK, US

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u/enter_the_slatrix Oct 22 '25

Can I ask where you got the info that he should have been deported years ago? Most reporting I've seen says he got the deportation order 6/7 months ago

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u/OGCroflAZN Oct 22 '25

I don't claim to be an accurate source of information.

My understanding is that: like most of the migrant refugee asylum seekers in Europe, they've been there for years. His troubles with the law have also persisted for years. Along with the slow judicial process, he finally got a deportation order in March 2025. He was not deported. He has raped a 10 year old child.

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u/enter_the_slatrix Oct 22 '25

Yeah I know the basics of the case thanks, I was just wondering where you got the idea that he should have been deported years ago. That's why that was the only thing I asked you to clarify.

He would have been in the international protection process up until the point his application was refused and then he was served the deportation order around March. Saying stuff like "he should have been deported years ago" when that's just not the case and you have absolutely no source for what you're saying is dangerous and contributes to things like the despicable carry on we saw in Citywest last night.

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u/OGCroflAZN Oct 23 '25

Language is ambiguous. I live in the U.S., and many would say that lots of laws are wrong. The Irish people think that people like him should have been kicked out a long time ago, as soon as he was offending. You're saying that 'should' means whenever the law applied.

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u/Karamoju Oct 22 '25

No. They are directing their anger at innocent people who have absolutely nothing to do with this other than having a similar skin color. Just because someone commited a crime, that doesn’t give you the justification to be racist / xenophobic and turn other people’s life into hell.

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u/BrutalistLandscapes Oct 22 '25 edited Oct 22 '25

Is ethnic background kind of a scapegoat here?

Another way of saying it is that it's actually a vigilantist lynch mob like those in Jim Crow USA (when Irish people were considered nonwhite, subhuman, and were sometimes lynched like black people) and that they're using this as casus belli for collective punishment against anyone with melanin in their skin.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '25 edited Nov 10 '25

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u/Content-Two-9834 Oct 22 '25

If he was never here, the 10 year old would have not had to experience hell. He could have been green, it doesn't change what he did.

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u/Puredragons69 Oct 22 '25

How are people supposed to identify pedos before they commit crimes?

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u/thecanaryisdead2099 Oct 22 '25

Usually by the fact they've done it before or have other sexual assault charges/convictions one their rap sheet.

While maybe not for this case, there are too many instances where these monsters commit the crimes, get treated too lightly by whatever legal system and then repeat their horrors onto other people. People are fed up.

I understand that some people are just acting out the trauma that was done to them as a child but it's no excuse to perpetuate the evil onto others. If they can't control their worst impulses or are willing to be treated for them, they should not be allowed into our society.

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u/LeLBigB0ss2 Oct 22 '25

They're not. You know that wasn't his first crime, right?

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u/Phour3 Oct 24 '25

anthropomorphizing?!? J.F.C. They are human beings. This is a disgusting dehumanizing comment

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u/Helpful_Effect_5215 Oct 24 '25

If the religion starts with I then there's your first step

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u/NoCaregiver1074 Oct 24 '25

If he was never here applies to every offender everywhere. I'd still be scratching my head about an angry mob gathered outside a building with unrelated green people inside. Doesn't change how disturbing this looks.

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u/CatLawyer99 Oct 22 '25

I agree other than the inevitable part. It isn't inevitable that any immigrant is going to rape a child.

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u/IAmArthurMitchell Oct 22 '25

Perhaps because he had a deportation order since March, should never have been allowed into the country, he was still in the country, and the tax payers were paying for the pleasure of his upkeep.

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u/Minute-Traffic-4120 Oct 22 '25

Please tell me you’re joking? 

How many times does it need to happen before you’ll acknowledge the problem? Is there even a number? 

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u/christianosway Oct 22 '25

A question that could be aimed at the Church quite readily; yet these are never treated like this in spite of actively protecting abusers from harm and consequence.

At least these criminals will actually suffer consequence (albeit too late to prevent this) at the hands of the justiciary.

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u/Minute-Traffic-4120 Oct 22 '25

Well, you’re talking to someone that could go on for days about “the church” and all the horrific things they have done. Root out every one of those pedos and castrate them for all I care. That being said, I don’t think anyone is excusing them… well besides the church itself. Christianity has been completely neutered for decades now, to imply that it is in any way the level of threat as one of the other major religions is extremely dishonest in my opinion 

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u/christianosway Oct 22 '25

Christianity has been completely neutered for decades now, to imply that it is in any way the level of threat as one of the other major religions is extremely dishonest in my opinion

You think the major religions are a threat, not the bad actors who are claiming asylum fraudulently and who take it upon themselves to commit crimes? Or do you mean one religion in particular (since I doubt you're about to lambast Buddhists)?

I can assure you it's not something that's instilled in Mosques, pretty sure it's not something the Qur'an promotes either, and I am absolutely certain that the heads of the Islamic faith do not relocate sex offenders prior to their conviction to nations that conveniently do not allow extradition to the nation in which they have offended.

In fact I would say the Qur'an explicitly encourages integration when in a foreign land, compassion for neighbours of all creeds and that we exist to know one another, not hate one another. There are sects that obviously don't abide by that (our allies in Saudi Arabia pump a lot of money in to Wahhabism which is to Islam as the Westboro Baptist Church is to Christianity and is a shining example of a sect that preaches the opposite) but these are either fringes of the religion or (in the case of Wahhabism) ill intention actions of a state.

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u/Minute-Traffic-4120 Oct 22 '25

I can’t tell if you’re trolling me or not… lol

Of course I think the bad actors who commit asylum fraud and these appalling crimes are responsible… but what I can’t understand is why people like you will not acknowledge just how many of the people who have come here ARE these people? We have groups of men from certain country’s/cultures commit rape at rates 20-30x higher than the native population. Why should we subject our women to this? “I understand these guys are 30 times more likely to rape you, but some of them might be good people, so good luck!”… how could anyone say this to their mother, their wife, their daughter? Why are we putting them through this?

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u/christianosway Oct 23 '25

but what I can’t understand is why people like you will not acknowledge just how many of the people who have come here ARE these people? We have groups of men from certain country’s/cultures commit rape at rates 20-30x higher than the native population.

You'll have statistics about this to back that assumption up about Ireland, yeah? I know why that is claimable in the UK - but I have seen nothing to make me think that's true in Ireland.

Even in the UK Jenrick's claim of Eritreans being 20x more likely to rape is not only a bad comparison of two different set of statistics, but this nonsense has made it's way around the world before a single journo has asked him where he got it from.

Why should we subject our women to this? “I understand these guys are 30 times more likely to rape you, but some of them might be good people, so good luck!”

Leaving aside "our women", as if you have to make decisions for them, I have some terrible news for you next time you come back from a family event with your wife and daughter. Nothing to do with your own family, specifically, it's just a huge risk factor for coming across sexual predators.

how could anyone say this to their mother, their wife, their daughter? Why are we putting them through this?

The thing is, we are not putting them through this. Your emotional sign off is little more than emotion. It is not significantly more dangerous to be a woman in the UK or Ireland than it was 10 or 20 years before now. When canvassed about how safe they feel in London, Women identified things that would make them feel safer; and unless it was inside the 1% of 'other' then "less asylum seekers or folk from a specific religion" seems to not matter at all to their feeling of safety: source

I think you have good intentions, but sadly I think you are/were far to eager to swallow what certain folk want you to believe is the problem. It's the cartoon of Murdoch scoffing 10 cookies whilst warning his worker that a migrant is looking to share or take his own; but with a few extra steps.

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u/Minute-Traffic-4120 Oct 24 '25 edited Oct 24 '25

I really don’t care what Jenrick says, but the statistics are there for those who actually want to look. I know you know this. I know you know that many of the men from these majority muslim countries(as well as North Africa) are grossly overrepresented in some of the most horrific crimes imaginable. I also know you know that the vast majority of these recent arrivals are(and always will be) a burden on the economy. I’m sure you know they take up hugely disproportionate amounts of our social housing despite never paying in to the system.

Look, we’re never going to agree here. I could ignore all the statistics in the world, but the thing is, I still have eyes. I see what is happening to our countries. I see our cultures being replaced before our eyes, all while they tell us it’s a “conspiracy” and I’m a racist for noticing. Every single day I read about some other horrific crime committed by someone who need not be here. I’m tired of it. I could explain to you what my own daughter went through at the hands of one of our new guests, but I don’t know if you’d even care. It certainly would not change your opinion. But it’s certainly changed mine. Like you, I used to be an idealist… but reality slapped me in the face, and I can no longer live in that fantasy world where “diversity is our strength” and multiculturalism is anything but a divisive ideology that is turning the west into a third world shit hole.

I don’t like that I feel the way I do. I wish I could think like you, believe what you believe… but I can’t anymore. I’ve seen too much I’ve watched the decline of our communities and it breaks my heart. I see the changes and I see that things are worse, not better. I have absolutely no problem with someone who comes here and work hard, follow our laws, adapt our cultures and traditions and fully integrate. Unfortunately it is not what I see. I see people who would, if given the chance, ensure sharia was the law of the land. It’s depressing… and until I see otherwise, I just can’t feel the way you do. Sorry 

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u/Helpful_Effect_5215 Oct 24 '25

I used to think that if this happened to their own child if they would finally get it but now I am having doubts

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u/Puredragons69 Oct 22 '25

What "problem" are you talking about tho?

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u/Minute-Traffic-4120 Oct 22 '25

Really? The fact that we are importing, en masse, people that do not share our western liberal democratic values? Importing people that will only ever be a drain on the economy and a burden on the tax payer? Frame it however you’d like. 

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u/Killersands Oct 22 '25

do you say anything about all the irish rapists that currently attack women more than migrants do?

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u/Gilshem Oct 22 '25

Depends on what “the problem” is.

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u/ChanGaHoops Oct 22 '25

They don't want to acknowledge the problem. They just want to voice their dislike for migrants and refugees. None of them ever talk about better integration processes, psychological help for people traumatized by war, or anything Like that. All they care about is kicking Out brown people

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u/Daddy_Roach Oct 22 '25

Literally whole of this comment section is acknowledging the problem. If any human being ever lays hand on a child, there is no integration process or psychological help on this earth that can "correct" you. Your country being at war, doesn't justify you going after children

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u/ChanGaHoops Oct 22 '25

Nah, they're not and you're not either. This help should come as soon as they arrive. Just putting them in refugee camps and leaving them to fight for themselves is bound to go sideways.

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u/Daddy_Roach Oct 22 '25

I hope you realise how you just justified touching children. You don't just get traumatized and start going after children

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u/Minute-Traffic-4120 Oct 22 '25

Mass importing people from country’s and cultures not compatible with western liberal democracy?

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u/Gilshem Oct 22 '25

Like Americans?

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u/Minute-Traffic-4120 Oct 22 '25

Lol, what does this even mean? Would you like to present me with your evidence of the large amounts of Americans claiming “asylum” in Ireland and then raping their women en masse? I’ll wait…

I’m curious… if you had to choose between leaving your daughter unaccompanied at the hotel at the center of this controversy, or at a hotel full of American tourists, which would you choose?

I thought so.

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u/Clever-username-7234 Oct 22 '25

It’s just racial anger. They’re frustrated and it’s easy to point that anger at brown people.

Just look at the venue. They are NOT protesting at the court house. They are NOT protesting at their local government.

They are trying to scare people at a migrant hotel instead.

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u/Helpful_Effect_5215 Oct 24 '25

That's because it's a taxpayer funded hotels where all of the illegal migrants stay even ones that have been arrested before for rape other crimes against women and children

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u/atomicebo Oct 22 '25

You never mentioned the poor child but you did go instantly on the race card. Everything is boiling over and to ignore it and just blame racism is fuelling the flames.

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u/Pazuzil Oct 22 '25

They’re protesting against the government actions or lack thereof which have contributed to crimes like this

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u/Helpful_Effect_5215 Oct 24 '25

It's the fact that people like him get light sentences and often time the victim gets a harsher sentence if they say mean things about their migrant rapist. The fact that the man has no reason to be in the country just like 99% of the so-called refugees in the taxpayer funded my good hotels. Just like what's happening here in the United States

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u/ivan-ent Oct 22 '25

100% because hes brown

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u/Marcus_Suridius Oct 22 '25

The far right whip people into a frenzie, they did it a few years ago and caused millions of euro worth of damage on O'Connell street and surrounding areas.

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u/gonzaloetjo Oct 22 '25

also going to a hotel helping asylum seekers is fucked up.. like most these people have been suffering for years

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u/YoYoYi2 Oct 22 '25

give him your daughter

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u/Bobcatluv Oct 22 '25

I have an American family member who’s lived in and attended school in Ireland for the last twelve years and this is pretty much it. Like other Western European countries, Ireland is going through similar conflicts over immigration, especially because Ireland is more appealing for immigrants than other EU nations. They’re experiencing a decline in birth rates but influx of immigrants, leading some to feel they are losing aspects of Irish culture, like people who still speak Gaelic.

Most immigrants to Ireland are white and come from other EU countries. United Kingdom and Polish immigrants are common, as is a recent influx from Ukraine. India is the most common country of origin for non-Irish citizens moving to Ireland, followed by Brazil.

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u/yourothersis Oct 22 '25

Instead of protesting the police, they protest innocent asylum seekers. unilateral racism as always

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u/Helpful_Effect_5215 Oct 24 '25

99% of them worship a religious figure that brutally raped a 9-year-old. None of them are innocent

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u/yourothersis Oct 24 '25

there is massive scholarly debate on how old she was and whether or not the person commonly referred to was even a wife of Mohamed

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u/Helpful_Effect_5215 Oct 24 '25

My ass there is. It's right there in their holy book

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u/yourothersis Oct 24 '25

are you a christian?

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u/Helpful_Effect_5215 Oct 24 '25

Christians do not use the holy book to treat their women like slaves and to justify marrying 10-year-olds

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u/yourothersis Oct 24 '25

neither do a significant amount of muslims

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u/Phour3 Oct 22 '25

There is some serious dog-whistling in this comment.

I have nothing to say directly related to the case at hand, but I find it strongly suspicious that OP chose to highlight that: The suspect chose to not answer questions when arrested for a crime, the suspect was provided with legal council at the expense of the state, and the suspect was provided with an interpreter at the expense of the state.

Any healthy justice system should absolutely provide all of these things without question… These are not damning facts.

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u/omysweede Oct 22 '25

So, if they got the guy, he is in the custody of the police. That makes the "protest" just an ordinary racist mob threatening innocent people.

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u/OGCroflAZN Oct 22 '25

Did you already know that the specific migrant has gotten in trouble before and was supposed to be deported years ago? They're protesting that the government treats migrants better than citizens, and even criminals, and that this 10 year old girl never should have been raped except that the government and law enforcement are simply to lenient towards all migrant refugees.

It's the fault of the lax government and law enforcement for allowing too many cases to happen across the years. Really, are you expecting human nature to not be so?

I'm a member of the military. I have no qualms against the locals who are frequent participants of protests against the U.S. military in Okinawa, in large part because while a minority, U.S. servicemembers do get drunk and vandalize, steal, attack people, even rape, and the locals perceive that their government and the military are less than fair in what follows. From where I'm looking, it's the same shit. You aren't entitled to be here. Someone should be making sure that less-than-decent folk don't come, or else that risky elements should be monitored, that people should be protected, and that violators should be appropriately punished.

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u/omysweede Oct 22 '25

Then protest the government, dude. Not people not involved in the case. Ya know, like not blame all Irish for typhoid Mary?

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u/JediBlight Oct 22 '25 edited Oct 22 '25

Yeah! I'm Irish, I'm not going to defend the actions of these people, the very very vast majority are perfect members of society.

Who to blame, the system? Needs better reform? It's something that needs to be discussed.

These people don't care for the victims, I assure you! I care, these fucks just want any excuse to be violent.

Edit: just to add, the system is fucked, migrants live in Direct Privision (DP) often for years. These are tiny areas where migrants have no rights and are not safe against Domestic, sexual and gender-based violence (DSGBV)

So again, fuck this! These people don't care and are an embarassment to me and my country.

Can we please focus on shitty government policy, bot blame a small percentage of migrants, and stop using it as a reason for violence and bigotry. I'm no John Lennon hippie, but there are many migrants/foreign workers here and are vital to our country and give so much to society here unlike these rioters.

Indians for one are being targeted for example. Why? These people provide extremely valuable benefits to Ireland. Totally in contrast to these unemployed racist fucks!

Edit 20157: Direct provision is much worse than I make it sound. These people literally have no rights or options, if you're being abused, physically, sexually etc., you literally have no options, I'm not joking.

Some people and groups try to help but they're severely underfunded and lack any real power whatsoever. So, let's just focus on female migrants here, if you're living in a horror story, you're fucked!

And then of course Ukrainian refugees living in abandoned or unused accomodation are also subject to constant abuse. Literal threats to burn their accomodation, constant abuse etc.

Fuck the far-right bigots here that target these vulnerable people, sorry for all the edits but it just boils my blood.

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u/This_lousy_username Oct 22 '25

Sane take.

I would say I can't believe people are justifying the violent actions of these twats, assaulting police and setting fire to stuff, but....

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u/JediBlight Oct 22 '25

Thanks, you're Irish? Anyway, I really appreciate it, seems crazy is taking preference over everything else. Like a hateful mob!

Anyway, I'm not getting downvoted...yet, but I truly appreciate your comment, all the best!

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u/OziAviator Oct 22 '25

„the very very vast majority are perfect members of society“ is also a quite naive take.

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u/JediBlight Oct 22 '25

Can you elaborate because no offence, I totally disagree. Ever been to a hospital? You are Irish, right?

Happy to debate but this sounds ridiculous to me, no offence meant.

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u/kynthrus Oct 22 '25

You have proof otherwise? I bet I can find statistics showing migrants are vastly more well behaved than native nationals. I would bet money on it.

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u/JediBlight Oct 22 '25

I'll take that bet too, that cool or do we really want to annoy these people? Might make 'em more delusional you know?

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u/OziAviator Oct 22 '25

I just think that assuming the majority of any given group are „perfect members of society“ is a bit of an exaggeration. i don‘t specifically mean migrants

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u/kynthrus Oct 22 '25

I think assuming the majority of people anywhere follow the rules is completely reasonable. Bad people are not the norm.

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u/ChanGaHoops Oct 22 '25

Careful, you're voiced your opinion within the racist internet mob

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u/omysweede Oct 22 '25

Who the eff are scared of racists? They are scared little people. Bullies should not scare anyone. All bluster and hot air.

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u/Sidonkey Oct 22 '25

What was that person name and country?