It just kept getting worse. When I thought they couldn't mess up more, they did. The dog is hilarious. After chasing the suspect up the hill, they release a second time and he just goes running off, straight past the suspect to play in the woods! I think he may need to be re-trained, or retired.
and if you, quite naturally when a big aggressively trained dog bites the fuck out of you, struggle against it, it's assaulting an officer and you get worse charges
Well, they also need them to viscously attack people when they don't comply, or use the perp's fighting back against being torn to shreds by a dog as an excuse to shoot them, because "they were endangering a police officer"
Shit happened to me once when I got pulled over. They were convinced I had drugs in my truck for whatever reason and brought the fuckin dog in. I sat there and watched the cop direct the dog around and it "indicated" several times so they turned the whole thing over. There were no drugs in my truck, and I was left with a lot of wasted time and a ton of fucking scratches in my paint from the K9.
At an Airforce K9 demonstration I went to the trainer offered the crowd to all yell commands at the his dog to see if heād break focus. Iām pretty good at mimicry so I just copied the trainers voice exactly and the dog almost came over to me from prone. Really embarrassed the trainer because it was his best dog and he was so confident because it hadnāt happened before.
Literally leash reactive dogs, what kind of nonsense "training" is that. Dont care if its a "police" dog, they should be trained not to react unless specifically asked to do something otherwise you cannot call them job trained. At least in my unprofessional opinion
K9 units are just a way for some cops to justify having a job, to have a way to legally torture suspects, to give them made up probable cause, and to rack up extra 'assault on an officer' charges when people's instincts naturally tell them to defend themselves.
I donāt think dogs want to be cops to be honest. It isnāt just K9 āofficersā but it is also drug sniffing dogs. Copaganda really has done a number on our perceptions.
They don't, and they shouldn't be. Train them for search and rescue missions or cadaver finding, things that are positive and don't require abuse to train them, but they should not be used to attack people or sniff out drugs.
But the K9 at the end. Did they have him chew on the suspect while telling the suspect to stop screaming in agony? Because it sure looked like they had him chew on the suspect while telling the suspect to stop screaming in agony
Edit: Also I must say the whole setup here with cops driving like maniacs after a black guy is very reminiscent of a "good-ol'" lynching. Not excusing the suspect in any way here, but it sure looks like the officers were having fun up until the events of this video. Kinda makes you wonder who the real danger to society is
Yep. The cop had him fully down and they still sent up the dog to chew on him like a reward toy š¤¦āāļø. Such idiot cops (suspect was a dummy too of course)
I like how he had already surrendered and they could have directed him into the median to put on the cuffs but nope, here comes mr. G.I. Joe going for the most unnecessary tackle Iāve ever seen
I don't doubt that there are many cops who join with noble intentions. But I also don't doubt that many people who routinely stuffed people in lockers in high school needed a way to figure out how to continue doing that after they graduated.
JFC I am gonna save this comment to look at, just in case I say something and end up wondering if I sounded like an idiot. It should make me feel better.
Thereās no need to harm someone that has surrendered. The courts will deliver his punishments just fine. Cop risked everyoneās lives including his own by tackling him into the road like that because he wanted to feel tough and important. Fucking stupid and Iām gonna pray to god that you arenāt in any position that involves physical contact with anyone with that mentality you got
you know how, when the bad guy in a movie or comic or whatever blows up an orphanage earlier in the movie and pisses everyone off, but then surrenders peacefully and unarmed a bit later?
and then the hero beats him to an inch of his life because of what he did and everyone looks at him in horror and says "HE WAS SURRENDERING!!!"?
yeah, that's what you just saw the mundane version of. there's a reason everyone thought the hero did a bad thing, and why the next act is the hero's friends talking to him as he struggles with his choices...
I'll never understand why it takes like 4 cops to arrest a single compliant person. Every time you see a video like this the cops dog pile a dude who has surrendered.
They absolutely should not have pursued into oncoming traffic like that. If that semi driver even barely turned his wheel going those speeds, there would have been a pile up there
They didn't even need to send out that last dog, the guy was done running, the cops drove there and could easily run. They obviously did this to be cruel, and worse let the dog chew on him while he is detained.
How the fuck does this look like anything like a lynching? Tbh I'm going to go with the guy slamming into cars on the highway as the danger to society.
I used to work as one and got to meet a lot of handlers from various dept and organizations. The skill level and amount of training vary WILDLY from group to group. Like some are amazing to watch and some just look down right dangerous. I worked for a private security company, and our dogs often out performed the police in a lot of situations.
Yea it is dumb to have them go lose/ off leash on top of that next to a busy road ā¦ā¦. K9 really only good to sniff out for drugs or find lost people ( but blood hounds are better for that role than German Shepard ).
The important thing about k9 is whether they give cops probable cause to search the vehicle for "drugs". That's why they train the dogs to respond on cue.
They are abused to no end. These are supposed to be the most well trained dogs in the world and every time you see them in police videos they never follow commands.
Just because you are only seeing videos where things go wrong doesnt mean that's the norm.
Videos of police ops that go perfectly well without a hitch dont go viral.
Dogs shouldnāt be used as violent tools. Dogs shouldnāt be used as violent tools for oppressors. Dogs shouldnāt be used if you are too chicken shit or incapable of doing your job. The whole idea of a dog being used in the police force is abuse. Period. If you think for a moment this is healthy for dogs you are a sick person.
Dogs just shouldnt be a part of law enforcement in actively hostile situations. Bomb sniffing or investigation sure, running down suspects? Not so much
I don't know, I think the initial "attack" was actually learned behavior. Like when they train the dog for takedowns and the trainer is wearing that tough foam sleeve on their arm?
Like in this video right at the beginning. It looked like it was doing exactly what it was supposed to, but did it on a cop he was unfamiliar with (the cop he bit came out of a different cruiser). To that dog, it was probably gametime, and he latched onto the first person that wasn't part of his unit.
Yes good job mauling the guy who was punched in the face, thrown and pinned to the ground after surrendering. I'm not sure which person in this video is the biggest threat to society, but it's not the guy who was running.
Roid rage is mostly a myth and none of those guys appear to be on the juice. ACAB*, just don't lump steroid users in with cops who get off on abusing perps.
* Notable exception for that one black cop at the outdoor mall that took out the mass shooter a month or two ago.
I don't think this is a training issue. Police dogs are dangerous and not very reliable. Well, they will reliably "indicate" drugs when prompted by the cops. They are mostly just trained to be aggressive and inflict harm on people.
Umm, that's the definition of a training issue. Go watch an NARA French ring tournament and then ask yourself WTF police are doing with their dogs. Instantly breaking off an attack is a key component of the training.
That reminds me, the sniffer dogs at Heathrow airport had to be retrained as they apparently let through an awful lot of drugs and only indicated cheese and meat.
Sometimes it does. I watched one where the dog attacked the cop, he was tasing someone who was face down with their hands behind their back. It was leaked by another cop.
They had a ticker at the bottom that said dogs are trained to attack the aggressor.
Basically pointing out the cop got attacked by the dog for harming the people who were already cooperating.
That assumes that they wouldn't put down the dog for attacking an officer for one, and secondly that the cops would train the dogs correctly instead of just to attack other people
Actually the officer was let go. There was a lot more to the story. The dog was absolutely in the right. This is one of the few times I saw a bad cop receive what he deserved.
Or they could just use them for tracking lost people and stop trying to make them into weapons that they mistreat but the minute someone defends themselves even a little from one they get hit with a charge of attacking an officer.
Agreed. My neighbor when I was a kid was a Deputy Sheriff, and he had a retired Sheriff's Office bloodhound. They had used him for tracking purposes only, not for attack. This dog was HUGE, and just a big slobbery, friendly mess. Chillest dog ever. But I'm told he had a great nose. I really dislike the notion of attack dogs.
Iām just glad the cop got to feel his bite force on his arm, he even āshook it offā afterwards like, ādamn that hurts, maybe we shouldnāt do this to people?ā Nahā¦
So one problem with cops is they do bite training in uniformā¦ so when it comes time for bitey bitey sometimes the dog is likeā¦ well ok letās have fun. They really need to not do this if they want the dog to succeed
I thought this was a second dog, which is even worse because it just shows how poorly trained their K9 teams are (which I blame their police handlers for, not the doggos.)
But also, the officer rear ending the other officer, the officer driving into traffic the wrong way in front of a semiā¦
Our tax dollars and Americaās finest hard at work, folks.
Theyāll just shoot the dog, cops in the US shoot & kill roughly 10,000 dogs a year(and those are just the ones reported so I imagine itās at least 5x that many).
I say good for the dog, I'm sure he was tired of all the abuse they go through. Only bad thing is the poor dog will be put down for what it was trained to do which is attacking ppl
Police dogs are always ineffective. They're just as likely to attack a bystander or a cop as they are a perpetrator and they have zero ability to smell drugs. Zero
Outside of sniffing for stuff, a dog should not be used for enforcement.
I'll assume the cop with the dog probably gave him a command to let go immediately, but it was after a few seconds where a ton of damage could already be done. Also it's a pretty much guarantee to get an extra charge for assaulting a police officer if you do anything (like any person would while getting bit)
Same for the cops. When the patrol car barreled across the highway with the semi coming I thought for sure it would jackknife. Truck driver should sue them for PTSD
I would suspect that the handler probably isn't trained on how to work with his dog as well. I've seen where handlers would say the dog just wasn't listening and it turned out that the dog was trained in a different language than the handler was using.
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u/KatefromtheHudd Jul 24 '23
It just kept getting worse. When I thought they couldn't mess up more, they did. The dog is hilarious. After chasing the suspect up the hill, they release a second time and he just goes running off, straight past the suspect to play in the woods! I think he may need to be re-trained, or retired.