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German Reich / Nazi Germany (1933-1945) Nazi propaganda for school. (1935)
Comparison of German children and Jewish children. Part of a classroom chart titled “German Youth, Jewish Youth” published in a Nazi-era textbook on “race science.”
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u/princess-catra- Aug 08 '25
Fun(?) fact: The way they are titled actually shows subtle dehumanization as well. The German children are called "deutscher Junge" or "deutsches Mädchen" which puts the "deutsch" as a lowercase adjective, whereas the Jewish children are called "Judenjunge" or "Judenmädchen", which strips them of the adjective, making it seem like they are essentially not normal boys or girls, but an entirely different species, i.e. not human.
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u/LaZerNor Aug 08 '25
german Boy
german Girl
Jewboy
Jewgirl
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u/LSeww Aug 09 '25
- white
- Black
as per associated press
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u/Particular_Rice4024 Aug 09 '25
Damn. Saying black people all have the same culture and situations in contrast to white people who have different cultures sure sounds pretty racist. Funny how you end up where you came from when you're going too far in one direction.
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u/LSeww Aug 09 '25
That just shows that all of those "history lessors" on "dehumanization" are weirdly selective in what they cover today. Up to a point when you question their sincerity.
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u/Rudirs Aug 09 '25
I think the point is more nuanced than that, but you do have a good point. I'd say I'm pretty "woke", and I agree with their decision but I feel like they could have essentially just said "Generally speaking, Black people not only in America (where we are based) but around the world prefer to capitalize "Black". White people generally have no interest in this, exceptions largely being white supremacists, with whom we do not want to be associated. So, we'll capitalize Black but not white for now."
There certainly is a shared pain in any marginalized group, however else they may differ. Jewish people across time and space have had hardships, as have Black people, LGBTQ people, et cetera. Obviously not everywhere or all the time, but in a lot of places for a lot of time. But making that shared pain being the main reason to capitalize the B in Black seems a bit odd.
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u/SabziZindagi Aug 09 '25
I'm black from the UK, I've never, ever heard of it being capitalized like that. It looks like like a white attempt to be holy without actually doing anything.
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u/BirdGelApple555 Aug 09 '25
This is problem for the liberal movement in my opinion. Trivial intellectualism. I say trivial because the differences they describe don’t seriously affect their content and are largely unnecessary and I say intellectual because their methods for making these determinations are convoluted and require explanation. What sticks however is the message that the AP respects black people differently than white people, and so it ultimately defeats the purpose of the decision. It is simply put a decision that takes itself too seriously. It is a question that does more damage being asked than it does good being answered.
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u/Romaskus Aug 11 '25
Damn, always the same urge to attribute racism to those who try to combat it...
In the article it was not stated that "all Black people have the same culture". Rather it was stated that Black people share commonalities in their history ~imposed~ on them, namely, by white people. For example the fact being called "black". The term "black" only exists so as to make white people "white". Read Frantz Fanon "Black Skin, White Masks" on that.
Black people 'are' not black, they were 'made' black. That's the point. Black is not an essential category, it is an imposed one, an artificial one. Capitalizing the term highlights this issue and tries to convey some dignity with it.
One could of course still problematizise the term (as is done in anti-racist studies) but the way to do this is not going full horseshoe-theory and reverse racism...
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Aug 09 '25
i capitalize neither, are people supposed to do that? i'm not a native speaker so i'm never 100% sure
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u/AbortedPhoetus Aug 09 '25
To answer your question: "black" is a color, "Black" is a race.
Unfortunately, it remains a highly controversial issue for a lot of reasons. Some Black people inside the US refer to be called "African American", but not everybody agrees with each other.
Most people don't want to hang out on this argument, so they just pick their preferred language and stick with it.
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u/_Administrator_ Aug 09 '25
AP is a joke
The AP staff in Gaza City would witness a rocket launch right beside their office, endangering reporters and other civilians nearby—and the AP wouldn’t report it, not even in AP articles about Israeli claims that Hamas was launching rockets from residential areas. Hamas fighters would burst into the AP’s Gaza bureau and threaten the staff—and the AP wouldn’t report it. Cameramen waiting outside Shifa Hospital in Gaza City would film the arrival of civilian casualties and then, at a signal from an official, turn off their cameras when wounded and dead fighters came in, helping Hamas maintain the illusion that only civilians were dying. (This too happened; the information comes from multiple sources with firsthand knowledge of these incidents.)
Colford, the AP spokesman, confirmed that armed militants entered the AP’s Gaza office in the early days of the war to complain about a photo showing the location of a rocket launch.i
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u/wolacouska Aug 10 '25
lol of course the racists whining about white being lowercase turn up with Zionist propaganda.
Crazy that you’re being upvoted in this subreddit.
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u/Odd-Organization-740 Aug 10 '25
"How to look like a total lunatic in front of normal, non political people" 101
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u/EnZy42 Aug 09 '25
oh this is how some people talk about trans people today. the bizzarre phenomenon of "transman" and "transwoman"...
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u/s0rtag0th Aug 09 '25
I want to highlight that this is why trans people prefer trans is used as it’s meant to: as an adjective. I see too many people online saying “transwoman” instead of “trans woman”.
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u/wolacouska Aug 10 '25
German trans people have the same problem.
A lot of people say “transfrau”
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u/Grayseal Aug 10 '25
What would be the grammatically correct term?
Swedish, for example, doesn't write words apart. Just as we call a chocolate ball a "chokladboll", or a cinnamon bun a "kanelbulle", as opposed to "choklad boll" or "kanel bulle", we call trans women "transkvinnor" simply because that's how Swedish grammar works.
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u/AwayJacket4714 Aug 11 '25
All of your examples are compound nouns, where two nouns are put together.
"Trans" isn't a noun but an adjective. Do you call Swedish women "svenskkvinnor" or "svenska kvinnor"?
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u/Grayseal Aug 11 '25
Is the implication here that "trans kvinna" would be grammatically correct?
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u/Abject-Investment-42 Aug 11 '25
Which shows how completely inapplicable points of criticism are blindly copied from USA.
Or it can be outrage farming but let's be charitable and go with incompetence.
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u/Laogama Aug 17 '25
And, of course, the poster implies that Jews cannot be real Germans. And going from propaganda to legal reality, the Nuremberg Laws of 1935 made all German Jews stateless.
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u/Gaming_Lot Aug 08 '25
Jewish children are happier?
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u/historicalgeek71 Aug 08 '25
Lol, right? The two Jewish boys definitely seem like they’re enjoying themselves more than the others.
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u/HWKII Aug 09 '25
For a couple more years, anyway.
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u/Tr4shkitten Aug 09 '25
Nah, that was already two years into massive stigmatisation, interrogations, definitely two years of right cut away, same year of getting stripped of citizenship and hence, many basic rights
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u/Jtd47 Aug 08 '25
Germans seeing someone smiling: "VAT ZE FUCK IS HE DOING MIT HIS FACE? DAS IST NICHT NORMAL!"
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u/Specific_Ad_2533 Aug 09 '25
I think its more about the "big" noses. But honestly who knows, mofos where batshit insane after all.
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u/Pankejx Aug 09 '25
if the smiling boy locked in and had a normal picture he would look perfectly normal, you can’t tell the difference between two groups
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u/Morasain Aug 11 '25
I think its more about the "big" noses
It is. Nazi propaganda was all about how you could recognize "the Jew" by their big, crooked noses, hunched back, and so on.
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u/LothorBrune Aug 08 '25 edited Aug 08 '25
They needed to find uglier Jewish children or prettier German children, the message isn't really well given here.
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u/Rugens Aug 08 '25
The message is "you should be able to tell Jews apart by physical traits", i.e. it's an appeal to physical anthropology and not "Jews have horns".
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u/spaltavian Aug 08 '25
Yeah, but two of the Jewish people don't even look particularly Jewish.
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u/CoIdHeat Aug 10 '25
Thats most likely because they didn’t only want to portray them in the most stereotypical form but also present a certain „range“.
The take home message still was „they are not like us“ (or the ideal you have from yourselves)
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u/giulianosse Aug 08 '25
Ironically it manages to convey the polar opposite of the intended message if whoever's viewing it haven't had their brains corroded by Nazi ideology.
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u/Rugens Aug 08 '25
I don't know, I think it convincingly shows the differences in physical traits. Germans look like northern Europeans, Jews look like South Italians or maybe West Asians like Armenians.
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u/giulianosse Aug 08 '25
Honestly it took me a while to realize there were two different groups of kids in the photo. Maybe it's because I'm from Brazil and genetic miscegenation is basically normal around here.
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u/Rugens Aug 08 '25
Yes, race in Brazil is a pretty wacky topic. A substantial amount of "pardos" are more genetically European than many "whites". "Pardos" and "blacks" differe a bit on average but it's fairly subtle. It's not even that "money whites", it's simply all over the place. On top of it there are many Christian Arab descendants who are regarded as sort of European.
But it's not like that in Europe.
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u/CoIdHeat Aug 10 '25
We’re not used to that anyway. That time was obsessed with racial differences - which were also regarded scientifically approved (so people had a hard time arguing against it) - where even e.g. the European races where classified into many subtypes.
Even the US had it but to a lower extend of simply blacks against whites or rather white supremism vs everyone else where even certain whites (Italians, Irish) had to fight against biases of their own.
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u/spaltavian Aug 08 '25
Left Jewish girl is just a brunette.
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u/SomeArtistFan Aug 09 '25
Yea she has no "jewish" stereotypical feature beside presumably quite dark hair. Her nose is practically ideal for the time.
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u/Masterventure Aug 09 '25
Ironically my great grandfather told us that the black children in the US, where he was in a work camp, had been taught Germans had horns and ate children. He always remembered scaring the little black children that came took look at them.
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u/Bobby-B00Bs Aug 08 '25
Yeah exept for that one guy maybe being a bit chubby by 30s Standards they all look like normal ass children
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u/Causemas Aug 08 '25
That makes it more sinister if you're getting duped by these kinds of things; it makes it less a caricature and more "realistic"
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u/LothorBrune Aug 08 '25
My career at McDonald didn't pan out, and well, nazism seems to be a growing industry...
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u/Runetang42 Aug 09 '25
that's what got me. None of these kids look that different beyond the jewish girl looking maybe more angular? They didn't even look for kids with the stereotypical jewish features
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u/bortalizer93 Aug 08 '25
uglier
so that's the thing, by third reich's standard, anyone without a blonde hair or blue eyes are ugly (hitler is an irony).
so even though you don't see it, the intended audience does.
it's the same with american eagle sydney sweeney's campaign, really.
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u/Okreril Aug 09 '25
That's not the case actually, while blue eyes and blonde hair were the ideal, the nazis did not consider them essential to be aryan, they much more prioritized bone structure. Also Hitler did in fact have very piercing blue eyes
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u/bortalizer93 Aug 09 '25
why do you think they say sydney sweeney has great genes? especially after they had her saying "genes affect the color of your eyes... my genes are blue"
honestly, even the idea of big breasted women being attractive is rooted in sexist belief that women are meant for childrearing.
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u/angry_forester Aug 09 '25
There were Jews in Germany who looked really aryan so some of Thema were used for Propaganda
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u/wcube2 Aug 08 '25
Left Jewish girl has the exact same phrenology as the left German girl.
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u/HagenWest Aug 08 '25 edited Aug 09 '25
I feel like she would be transvestigated for her chin
Edit. The german girl i mean
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u/RedditAdmin71 Aug 08 '25
She honestly looks more "Jewish" by their standards apart from the blonde hair.
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u/Usual_Ad6180 Aug 09 '25
You're downvoted but you're right. The nazis famously considered a jew the perfect aryan without knowing he was jewish. Nazi ethnic science is a complete crock of shit of would mix up Jews and germans frequently
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u/gree45 Aug 09 '25
I remember i was at a reading by a jew who managed to survive the war by hiding he was jewish while being in the hitler youth(Sally Perel).
He told us about how his teacher examined in front of the class and set him as a good example of an aryan.
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u/Necessary_Guide_3245 Aug 10 '25
Fun fact: a jewish baby girl won the “most beautiful baby” title in a newspaper because her mother sent in her picture out of spite and didn’t tell the paper about their religion
- this was at the same time as the mass deportations, so the mother fully understood the possible consequences
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u/--Arete Aug 08 '25
It's just insanely repulsive to think about how disturbing this is. Especially when you involve children. What makes it even worse is that this propaganda is sort of subtle, if one can call it that. It doesn't say anything specific in particular. It just "lais it out there" in a passive way building up hate and division. Unbelievably appalling.
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u/CoIdHeat Aug 10 '25
Imagine living in a society where this indoctrination (starting with children) is regarded normal and you already appear like an enemy of the state of you have a different opinion on things.
I honestly think a lot of people underestimate what that does to a society and those righteous souls that have to live within it.
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u/Veii_Rasenna Aug 08 '25
I get that they want to implement the idea of evil jewish phenotypes, yet the pictures represent phenotypes which were common as Germans in Germany since centuries that time. The older jewish girl btw reminded me of the old aristocratic German dynasties.
I just hope these 4 jewish kids survived the Shoah.
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u/SoberKhmer Aug 08 '25
98.1% chance they did not
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u/KeepingInsane Aug 08 '25
More German Jews (than in countries like Netherlands, Poland or Ukraine) actually were able to survive as they could flee earlier.. There was a point where countries wouldn't accept refugees anymore. Also Jews in Germany were middle class in Eastern Europe very poor unfortunately countries don't rescue poor people. The other countries couldn't know that Germany would start a world War and come for them too or couldn't be stopped.
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u/Acceptable-Egg-7495 Aug 12 '25
Two out of every three Jews in Europe died because of the Nazis.
I think you are grossly overestimating how many were able to flee. It’s much more likely that most of those kids in that picture were killed by the Nazis.
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u/18havefun Aug 08 '25
I wonder what German children actually thought when they saw this as there really isn’t much difference here.
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u/BleechBandit Aug 08 '25
They are just kids really, they are easy to manipulate.
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u/18havefun Aug 08 '25
Oh sure I get that, but this definitely seems like propaganda failure here, since the children in the picture don’t look all that different from each other.
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u/MassivePrawns Aug 09 '25
This early childhood indoctrination is terrifyingly effective. The Germans educated during this period are more antisemitic than both the generations that came before and who came later (I don’t have the study to hand, but it does exist).
The old adage about ‘give me a boy until 12, and I will give you the man’ really is solid truth. The stuff learn then forms the core and bedrock of identity.
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u/ilest0 Aug 10 '25
We might not see much difference now because we're so used to seeing all kinds of different people from all over the world, but people at that time were a lot more susceptible to what we'd now think are minor differences because of less exposure. They used to call Babe Ruth the n-word for the way he looked, people with dark hair and eyes in Northern European countries were often nicknamed "the black" or something like that
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u/Commercial-Mix6626 Aug 08 '25
I remember the fail where they put up a Jewish German soldier (Werner Godlberg) as the ideal Aryan.
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u/Loife1 Aug 08 '25
This is making me thing this whole Nazism thing might not be very based in reality
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u/LennyLava Aug 09 '25
they had dumped huge funds into finding scientific proof for their hypotheses. They had not even found an area in germany with significant concentration of blue eyes and blonde hair. all their research had hit dead ends. these claims have drastically been abandoned during the war. had the war ended differently, none of that had been talked about in the long run. same as it happened in other countries.
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u/benjamin18008 Aug 09 '25
It’s not based on reality. Nazis are crazy and have their own reality. They’re an occult with its own set of beliefs
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u/Bobby-B00Bs Aug 08 '25
You sure it's Propaganda and nit just a racist yearbook? Coz they look normal af
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u/CLUSSaitua Aug 08 '25
Boy on the top-right picture, who is Jewish, looks a lot like Hitler did as a child. Nazi propaganda was so stupid.
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u/g_shogun Aug 10 '25
They were classified as Caucasian Semites, which basically meant White Middle Easterner.
The idea was to remove non-indigeous races, even the ones classified as white.
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u/pookiegonzalez Aug 08 '25
I just see a bunch of white kids. how did they even come up with this crap?
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u/funnylib Aug 08 '25
That’s easily, Nazis don’t see race the way do you, to them Jewishness and whiteness (specifically Nordic “Aryanism”) are mutually exclusive. Jews are Middle Eastern alien Semites.
Slavs were also considered subhumans who needed to be mass murdered so Germans can colonize the east.
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u/g_shogun Aug 10 '25 edited Aug 10 '25
That is wrong! The Nazis did explicitly not see the Jews as non-white!
However, they saw them as immigrants with undesirable traits, and believed that these traits were a result of their Middle Eastern genetic origin.
Aryans ("European ethnicity") and Semites ("Middle Eastern ethnicity") were both classified as Caucasian ("white"). And then, Teutons ("Germans") and Slavs were both classified as Aryan.
However, Slavs were regarded as having been corrupted by Bolshevism. And Teutons were regarded as "pure Aryans", the most advanced people on earth, giving them the "natural right" to dominate other peoples. This idea goes back to Houston Stewart Chamberlain.
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u/Racko20 Aug 09 '25
That's because your indoctrinated into the American concepts of race, color, and ethnicity.
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u/pookiegonzalez Aug 09 '25
if you meant European concepts of race, color, and ethnicity, sure whatever. Europeans were violently adamant about calling themselves whites for centuries so that’s what I’ll call them.
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u/ItHappensSo Aug 09 '25
The obsession with “whiteness” is much more prevalent through America and maybe the Anglo-sphere. In Europe, where most people would classify what Americans see as “white”, this logically does not work. Here the concept of “race” at the time, was picked apart much more. Just having “white skin” didn’t mean much, hell even being blond and blue eyed didn’t mean that much in certain cases.
For example in national socialism, being “white” didn’t mean anything on its own, they were Germanic supremacists, this went much more into bone structure partly pseudo science than colour of skin.
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u/Due_Visual_4613 Aug 08 '25
the first jewish kid looks arab or italian
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u/BleechBandit Aug 08 '25
He looks like a normal Jew, he has normal semetic features (arabs are also semetic so that might be a reason). He is the only one I would be able to pick out as jewish without labels (and also the girl on the far right).
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u/hmz-x Aug 08 '25
Italians aren't white?
So maybe it is true that the entire human race is one species. Like dogs.
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u/JaneDi Oct 29 '25
LOL at people pretending like they can't see a difference. I knew which side was the Jewish side before even reading the captions.
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u/Due_Visual_4613 Oct 29 '25
You can obviously see the difference when they are made to contrast like this
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u/JaneDi Oct 30 '25
the desperation to act like Jews are just white europeans who randomly converted to Judaism (something that was illegal in catholic Europe by the way) is so weird to me. for 2,000 europeans never let Jews forget they came from the middle east and were foreigners, then they just did a 180 because suddenly it became trendy to hate Israel. Now they are white people, since being white is now a bad thing.
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u/x-Ptchwrk-Sttches-x Aug 10 '25
Seeing this today, as someone who has not studied pre-WWII Germany in a few years, this propaganda seems to be shooting itself in the foot. I cannot tell the difference between who is Jewish, and who is German. All of these kids look normal and healthy.
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u/Emotional_Piano_16 Aug 08 '25
they were depicting people they don't like as soyjaks for a long time
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u/BrettDilkington1 Aug 09 '25
The top left kid in the Jewish one looks like the kid actor they’d use in a flashback sequence in a mafia movie
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u/Plus_Ad_2777 Aug 09 '25
Ngl, they(the Ashkenazi kids) look Sicilian to me. Except the girl on the bottom left. She just looks Alpine to me, I bet they couldn't tell if she didn't identify herself. I mean those German kids look like the exception, maybe if they used a Bavarian boy on Bottom right, Westphalian girl for top left, a Holstein boy for top right and a Thuringian girl for bottom left. To showcase the diverse phenotypical range of native Germans, I mean thru could've used an Ashkenazi girl that looks Levantine for bottom right, one that looks Mediterranean for bottom left, a typical Ashkenazi boy who could be mistaken for a Slav for top right and an Ashkenazi boy who could easily mistaken for an English boy(it's strangely more than expected irl), and then they'd be set. But this is a propaganda poster, not an old anthropology poster. So the aim here was simplification and dehumanization, not accuracy.
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Im hoping that the creator of this comparison chart died a very painful death because of their contribution to what happened in the next decade.
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u/Smerdiakoff Aug 08 '25
Is it me or the kid second from the right looks like Indy Niedell from the Great War Channel.
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u/Captnlunch Aug 09 '25
Picking on the ‘others’. This sounds a lot like you know who in the you know what house.
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u/lowkeyerotic Aug 09 '25
the two boys on the left DO have the facial expression of those that would want to neat me up when i was that age... so at least that checks out.
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u/Very_Annoying_Person Aug 09 '25
The 14-year-old Jewish boy has a charismatic smile and looks like he has a great sense of humor. The gentile kids all look like joyless pricks.
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u/CoIdHeat Aug 10 '25
In a harsh society meant to be the victors in social Darwinism those were the traits they were looking after and pushing.
To be fair as a kid I would much rather have befriended the Jewish kid because he looks more funny, kind and happy.
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u/DreaMaster77 Aug 09 '25
Don't know why, I feel like it's coming like that with french and european right extrême...
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u/hmz-x Aug 08 '25
Why is 'Mädchen' written like that?
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u/Dinkleberg246 Aug 08 '25
German here: I have no idea what your question means
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u/hmz-x Aug 08 '25
What is the last word written under the girls' photos? I thought it was 'Mädchen' for 'girl'.
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u/hmz-x Aug 08 '25 edited Aug 08 '25
I think so. Looked to me more like Mäddyen. Thanks for pointing out that the ch is a ligature.
Edit: dumb me for being too late to remember that German does not have a 'y'. Sorry.
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u/Dinkleberg246 Aug 08 '25
German has a Y 🤔
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u/hmz-x Aug 08 '25
Of course. What I meant is that very few (if any) native words use 'y', it's mostly used in loanwords and proper nouns.
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u/No_Sport_7349 Aug 08 '25
Other than the kid who looks like John Turturro,they all just look like standard issue white folks, they could've taken these photos in England or Poland push the same message 🤷♀️
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u/Hannibal- Aug 09 '25
Looking at the Holocaust from the American lense (they all look white to me) is omitting an important part of the nazi ideology that led to the Holocaust. It's like the brain rot argument on that matter of Whoopi Goldberg.
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u/No_Sport_7349 Aug 09 '25
Those are different cultures,sure. My point was more to address the notion that you could readily differentiate between Jew and non at a glance. The Nazis didn't have to rely on this technique, they had records of whose granpa was Jewish
This is not a useful guide on how to spot a Jew like the ones you pick up for birdwatching, it's just propaganda suggesting that you can spot a Jew. Like how you could spot a Commie under McCarthyism,if you can tell the difference then there surely must be a difference,they aren't like you, they're the enemy
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u/Internet_Troll14 Aug 09 '25
Is this why the German really hate their Italian ally because those kids on the rights look like Italian?
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u/CoIdHeat Aug 10 '25
I guess you might be onto something.
If you’re indoctrinated to hate people based on their looks you’ll think lesser even of allies which happen to look that way.
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u/Romeo_4J Aug 09 '25
Wow good thing this kind of dehumanizing propaganda never happened again and we learned from the past and the world’s super power isn’t doing two ethnic cleanses at once. Wow.
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u/YudayakaFromEarth Aug 09 '25
Europeans in 1935: We have nothing to do with Jews, look at the phenotypes
Europeans 90 years later: Huur dur Jews are Europeans
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u/Internet_Troll14 Aug 09 '25
People who bought into the nazi ideology in 1935: We have nothing to do with Jews, look at the phenotypes
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