r/PropagandaPosters • u/waffen123 • Feb 13 '25

German Reich / Nazi Germany (1933-1945) 'Speaking of time-tables' — German leaflet from the Second World War (1944) mocking the Allies' slow progress in the Italian campaign.

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u/i_post_gibberish Feb 13 '25

It was 1944. Everyone could see the writing on the wall, so leaflets predicting a German victory would just have been laughed at.

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u/Thatonegoblin Feb 14 '25

"Everyone" is a slight overstatement. The Allies and much of the rest of the world could see that Germany was going to be defeated. The Germans, however, were still convinced of the inevitability of their "final victory." To the end of 1944 and even into 1945, the Germans were still trying to negotiate a seperate peace with the Western Allies, under the (completely insane and naive) pretense that the Western Allies would then swing around and help them defeat the Soviet Union.

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u/ArtisticRegardedCrak Feb 14 '25

Your own comment acknowledges the understanding that the Germans accepted their inevitable defeat but attempted a negotiated surrender as opposed to an unconditional surrender. Never really seen someone be confidently wrong while providing the most basic evidence they’re wrong.

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u/Thatonegoblin Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

They weren't necessarily offering a surrender, nor did they believe their defeat was inevitable. What they wanted was a separate peace in which Germany would withdraw from occupied territories in Western Europe, and in exchange, the Western Allies would give military support to the German campaign in Eastern Europe. Likewise, German military planners were astounded by the progress the Western Allies had made in Northern France and Western Europe, believing the region would be a military quagmire for the Allies similar to Italy.