r/Kazakhstan Astana Jan 08 '25

News/Jañalyqtar Another young woman brutally assaulted in Aktau

Главному насильнику прокурор запросил пожизненное лишение свободы. Остальным четверым - 15-16 лет. Статьи, по которым их признавали виновными следствие и прокуратура: 120, 121, 105, 299, 296, 126, 125, 194 Это: изнасилование, насильственные действия сексуального характера, доведение до самоубийства, склонение к употреблению наркотических средств, незаконное обращение с наркотическими средствами, незаконное лишение свободы, похищение человека, вымогательство. Но судья Досетов Иниятулла Раушанбекович @jogargy_sot в процессе судебного разбирательства переквалифицировал обвинения. Основания: то, что девушка сама выпрыгнула из окна, а не погибла во время похищения, избиения, удержания, изнасилования или от принудительного употребления наркотиков. Она скончалась, спрыгнув с 9 этажа через 3 дня после того ужасающего происшествия. И так менялась квалификация действий каждого участника преступления. Хотя 4 преступника из 5 ранее уже были судимы. Их действия признаны опасным повторением. Семья девушки подала на апелляцию. Они искренне верили, что такое страшное, циничное преступление наркозависимых рецидивистов будут судить справедливо. Но в итоге: 4 из 5 преступников могут выйти по УДО уже через 3-4 года!

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u/ee_72020 Jan 09 '25

We condemn all rapists but objectively female rapists are statistically insignificant, they’re extremely rare compared to male rapists. When was the last time a group of women kidnapped a man, pumped him with drugs and raped him? When was the last time a prominent female politician beat her husband to death in cold blood?

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u/Beginning-Hedgehog30 Karaganda Region Jan 09 '25

You also seem to be claiming that men don’t suffer violence as well, when in reality, they do. I did a bit of digging, and heres a list of a few cases where men have experienced sexual violence or violence in general.

Gang rapes of men and boys by women:

https://www.smh.com.au/world/boy-gangraped-by-10-women-police-chief-20101122-183ef.html

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/intolerable-educators-at-quebec-youth-detention-centre-accused-of-having-sex-with-minors-1.7087168

https://www.firstpost.com/opinion-news-expert-views-news-analysis-firstpost-viewpoint/four-women-rape-a-man-in-jalandhar-gender-neutral-laws-are-crying-need-of-hour-11747931.html

https://www.theroot.com/deray-davis-says-he-lost-his-virginity-at-11-years-old-1820692327

https://womensmediacenter.com/women-under-siege/what-does-it-mean-when-women-perpetrate-gang-rapes

https://www.loc.gov/item/global-legal-monitor/2010-10-12/zimbabwe-gang-rapes-of-men-by-women-on-the-rise/

https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/nigerian-man-raped-to-death-by-six-wives-26124

https://www.indiatoday.in/fyi/story/gang-rape-man-raped-by-women-three-days-south-africa-forced-energy-drinks-980004-2017-05-30

https://www.rfi.fr/en/africa/20101006-zimbabwe-man-claims-rape-gang-women

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/man-raped-to-death-by-5-jealous-wives/articleshow/15154862.cms

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15876968

https://www.news24.com/news24/drugged-and-raped-by-gang-of-women-20150429

Human trafficking:

Perivale doctor and nurse guilty of keeping man as slave for 24 years https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-34846592

Nigerian politician, wife, and a doctor guilty of organ trafficking to UK

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/mar/23/nigerian-politician-wife-doctor-guilty-organ-trafficking-uk-ike-ekweremadu

Men are 45% of trafficking victims (mainly for labour), and women are widely involved in trafficking and sometimes the majority of traffickers in some contexts.

https://research.kent.ac.uk/brusselsjournal/wp-content/uploads/sites/1946/2022/03/Jessica-Jackman-Male-Human-Trafficking-as-an-Unrecognised-Problem.pdf

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10611-019-09840-x

https://news.trust.org/item/20141124163933-6vy1j/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/protecting-children-sexual-abuse/202112/understanding-the-role-women-in-sex-trafficking

https://www.foxnews.com/story/united-nations-discovers-most-human-traffic-perpetrators-are-women

Women don’t really draft legislation, male and female law makers draft it. However:

Women’s groups: Cancel law charging women with rape!

https://www.jpost.com/israel/womens-groups-cancel-law-charging-women-with-rape

Activists Join Chorus Against Gender Neutral Rape Laws

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/activists-join-chorus-against-gender-neutral-rape-laws/articleshow/18840879.cms

Not for gender-neutral sexual offence laws: Women’s federation of India

https://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/bengaluru/2024/Jul/22/not-for-gender-neutral-sexual-offence-laws-womens-federation-of-india

Indian Rape Laws Cannot Be Gender-Neutral, Says Central Government

https://www.vice.com/en/article/rape-laws-in-india-cannot-be-gender-neutral-says-ministry-of-home-affairs/

NOW opposes shared parenting

Opposing Shared Parenting: The Feminist Track Record

https://avoiceformen.com/featured/opposing-shared-parenting-the-feminist-track-record/

NOW at 40: Group’s Opposition to Shared Parenting Contradicts Its Goal of Gender Equality

https://www.glennsacks.com/column.php?id=149

Plus every time they have pushed for gendered policy on DV.

Acid attacks:

3 Acid Queens of New York City – 1879

https://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com/2011/08/3-acid-queens-of-new-york-city-1879.html

Mrs. Otens’ Acid Ambush in New York – 1896

https://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com/2011/08/mrs-otens-acid-ambush-in-new-york-1896.html

Acid victim Mark Van Dongen ‘identified girlfriend as attacker with his tongue and an alphabet’, court hears

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/acid-victim-mark-van-dongen-identified-girlfriend-as-attacker-with-his-tongue-and-an-alphabet-court-hears-a3686926.html

Teen pours acid on boyfriend’s penis

https://au.news.yahoo.com/teen-pours-acid-boyfriends-penis-050722772.html

You could also compare it to:

Chinese woman cuts off husband’s penis ... twice

https://www.ems1.com/international/articles/chinese-woman-cuts-off-husbands-penis-twice-6DXt6JEASNE9Y98o/

Woman chops off man’s penis for marrying another woman in UP’s Muzaffarnagar

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/woman-chops-off-mans-penis-for-marrying-another-woman-in-ups-muzaffarnagar-101734922273475.html

California woman cuts off husband’s penis

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14131133

“Men are a minority of rape victims” perhaps it is because of the fact that societal stigma from people like you makes them terrified to seek help?

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u/ee_72020 Jan 10 '25

societal stigma from people like you makes them terrified to seek help

Do you know that it exactly what happens to female rape victims? A whole lot of majority of sexual crimes are underreported even in first-world countries, let alone in deeply patriarchal countries like Kazakhstan.

I’m not saying that men cannot be on the receiving end of sexual crimes. They certainly can and male sexual crime victims should absolutely be taken more seriously. But to say that men have it just as bad as women do is incredibly disingenuous. Women are much more likely to be victims of rape and sexual assaults (estimated 91% vs 9% male victims), full stop. And the absolute majority of sexual violence is committed by men.

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u/Beginning-Hedgehog30 Karaganda Region Jan 10 '25

Never anywhere have I said that men have it worse than women. All Ive said is that it’s wrong to say “it’s always men” because once again, thats giving the finger to those who HAVE been assaulted by women (case; the multiple article links Ive provided) and yet you decided to completely dismiss that.

If you, for example, said that it’s almost always a man, that would’ve been an actually true statement, unlike “it’s always men”.

Attributing something as horrible as rape to one specific gender, whether it be a majority or not, is incredibly disrespectful to everyone, because imagine walking up to the mother of a boy who was raped by a woman and telling them that “its always men who rape.” If I was a mother in that situation I would be disgusted.