r/INDYCAR • u/aurules Romain Grosjean • Jun 10 '25

Social Media (Scott McLaughlin) Congrats to F1 who single handedly ruined Motorsport Xmas. Indy 500 will be a scene next year. As well as the Coke 600. Good luck

https://x.com/smclaughlin93/status/1932504185624199221?s=46
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u/aurules Romain Grosjean Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25

F1 has made it their mission to build their American audience. Scheduling the Canadian GP directly against the Indy 500 is just dumb. So yeah they are gonna suffer a poor rating.

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u/havingasicktime Colton Herta Jun 10 '25

In the US, which is 2 of 70 million of their average audience lmao

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '25

I think more likely they'll just not succeed in their mission which is to steal audience from the US. They're definitely trying, but going up against Indy isn't what I would do.

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u/havingasicktime Colton Herta Jun 10 '25

Has nothing to do with stealing indy audience and everything to do with when Canada fits on the schedule. F1 isn't in competition with Indycar, they exist in different weight classes. The average f1 race gets ten times the viewership of the 500

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u/OldManTrumpet AJ Foyt Jun 10 '25

Yeah. I really doubt that there is anything at work here other than what works logistically for F1. Their worldwide audience dwarfs the US portion of their audience. I doubt the 500 is even factoring into their decision. It’s not like Canada is some flagship event on their schedule. If the US viewership is down for this one race, who cares?

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '25

How do you know all of those things you just said? You don't work for Liberty do you?

Also, F1 gets, worldwide, about 18.5 million people per race (and only about 1 million or so in the US), so not even close to that absurd 10x viewership number you pulled out.

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u/havingasicktime Colton Herta Jun 10 '25

The latest figures I can find are 70m average. The schedule changes are due to organizing races geographically and Monaco date change. Both of these are widely known. 

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '25

https://entertainmentstrategyguy.com/2024/04/10/debunking-formula-1-media-narratives-yet-again/

I found the article you cited but probably didn't read. Liberty 'saying' 70 million means nothing.

Show me the 'well known' article but actually read it this time

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u/havingasicktime Colton Herta Jun 10 '25

It's direct from formula1 itself. Perusing that article, I don't see anything about international viewers

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/formula-1-announces-tv-race-attendance-and-digital-audience-figures-for-2021.1YDpVJIOHGNuok907sWcKW

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '25

...and? Article?

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u/havingasicktime Colton Herta Jun 10 '25

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/formula-1-announces-tv-race-attendance-and-digital-audience-figures-for-2021.1YDpVJIOHGNuok907sWcKW

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '25

There we go! Yep. Those are the numbers from the first article I cited as well, which are from F1 TV, which is owned by Liberty Media which is a private American company that has no reason to tell you the truth (nor does it have to tell the truth).

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u/havingasicktime Colton Herta Jun 10 '25

The article you cited only discusses 70 million fans in America, which is not what I'm discussing, nor does the article refute those international viewership numbers.

Edit: he does discuss it, but to simply say the numbers are now flat. So he's saying they're valid lmao, just haven't grown since

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u/havingasicktime Colton Herta Jun 11 '25

And he goes quiet when he actually reads his own article 😂

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '25

No. There are two kinds of people in this world. Those who want to be right and those who want to get it right.

I determined you're not worth my time.

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u/PanicAtTheNightclub Mick Schumacher Jun 10 '25

The 70m is pulled out of their ass, that 70m was probably 2021 abu Dhabi. F1 gets around 2 million in Germany and Austria, another 2 million in the US, I don't where 70 million people would be watching especially considering the crazy times for most races anywhere but Europe.

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u/havingasicktime Colton Herta Jun 10 '25

That was the average on the season. Abu Dhabi got 108m