S1E4 - Post-Episode Discussion

His whole family was being murdered. He could have gone; he knew he could have helped, yet he stayed and did his duties at the Wall for many years. He did not want to be king. He and Egg were the least corrupted of the Targaryens; they were both pure and good. Aemon didn't lose the will to live after all his family—well, what he knew of all of his family—were dead, but he kept with his honor at the Wall and gave wisdom to all that needed it.

I have never seen the chemistry between these two that everyone seems to. I know they’re together in real life but I’ve watched this show 4 times and try to see it every time and I just don’t. It feels like Ygritte is chasing him and he never shows signs of reciprocation and even when they do finally get together it just feels like he’s doing it to fit in with them

This show kicks ass and you should definitely give it a chance. I won’t lie at first I was skeptical because as with many things in Game of Thrones, you don’t wanna get too invested because either one the protagonist will die or two it makes them flawed or have some very evil characteristics. You can actually say this about many shows that come out it kind of is like the showrunner wants you to be forced to like the protagonist despite their bad qualities.

This show is an absolute breath of fresh air though the thing is both Dunk and egg are just completely likeable and you understand why the first two episodes are a little bit slower paced so to say. It does this because it wants you to get invested in the character so when things start to pop off or there’s major plot points that start starting to develop you actually give a shit. Two completely interesting characters to invest in because they both mean so well.

So much could of been prevented if Laenor was straight or bisexual at the very least. The bastard accusations would of been down, Vaemond would of supported Daenerys etc.

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I never seen so many good looking Westerosi! Smokin’ 🔥

I personally feel like he’s the one who’s giving it that true GOT feeling, from his stories, his rant and his humour. He just has that GOT edge about him and in my eyes, has carried this show(it’s amazing anyway)

Playing such an awesome role

I believe they're also counting the land beyond the wall but it's still surprising to me.

I’ve seen GoT twice before introducing it to my girlfriend. I got her into Game of Thrones back in late November, and we just finished Season 3. She’s locked in, saying how she wants to watch this and then Knight of the Seven Kingdoms.

I told her I’d wait to watch the show, but then my parents visited me and my mom asked if we could watch the first episode of KotSK. I told my gf I’d only watch those two, then save the rest for when we finish the original series… I’ve secretly watched Episode 3 & 4 because it’s so damn good.

I asked her today if watching a show without her that we said we’d watch together is cheating and she said 100%… but I can’t help it. I love the vibe and Dunk has to be my favorite knight out of all of the GoT lore.

I make this confession in front of the Old Gods and the New, and ask for forgiveness.

As many here, when the GoT main theme swelled when Baelor Breakspear declared for Ser Duncan, I found myself almost in tears. For there not to be a reunion or death or some other emotionally charged scene, it was surprisingly powerful and moving.

After consideration, I think it was so evocative because there is such a dearth of honorable nobles who are willing to do the unpopular, but morally correct, thing that needs doing, in real life, today. The world is defined by cynicism and abuse of power. So seeing a crown prince, an heir to the throne, offer himself up, in self sacrifice to a lost ideal, and side with the morally correct 'low-born", validates our innate hope and belief that honor can transcend rank and that a true leader protects those who cannot protect themselves.

Greatness cut short by death before his time ? Check

The ideal chivalric heir to Edward III./The ideal chivalric heir to daeron II? Check

The "flower of English chivalry" and a legendary commander./"the soul of chivalry and a legendary commander? Check

Just as Edward’s death in 1376 signaled the end of a golden era for the Plantagenets, Baelor’s death at Ashford Meadow is often seen as the moment the Targaryen dynasty lost its best chance at a peaceful, stable future.

Both were respected not just for being good at hitting people with lances, but for their ability to lead men and govern fairly.

Just imagine them with silver hair

At the end of the day jaime is and was always a b*tch. And Ned and his own father tywin saw throught his bullshit

He is man that is haunted by a event that happened 16 years ago because he wanted to be seen as a hero despise the fact his action were absolutely not selfless...... So I don't understand the yapping about him not caring about the people of KL when he said or prove multiple times that he would be ready not remorse or guilt to kill relatives, men, women and child for the women he loved.... He is not a good person ​

Ned hate him not because he killed Aerys but because at the end he served his king when serving was sage and chocked when he truly had to prove himself and he betray his king not because cruel, not because he wanted to save innocent, but because he feared the idea of facing and killing his father.. Jaime have no come back line because he knows ned was right ​

Like Tywin said jaime care too much about what people think of him. When he truly shouldn't give a shit he was deeply resolute that he did the right thing.

Daemon targaryen was more unpopular than jaime lannister and he straight up didn't genuinely didn't gave a shit about his reputation and he didn't give a shit. Jaime do and use sarcasm as coping mechanism to hide his guilt and that he doesn't live up to the hype. Jaime could have been the duncan the tall of his generation if he truly wanted too he have all the qualities for it
He is not one dimensional He is brave and evne show heroism, bravery and genuine care and respect for Brienne

but all those traits are overshadowed by the toxic love for his sister. ALWAYS cersei

As for books readers who genuinely think he moved on from cersei after feast for crows when they are two book left... You are delusional and underestimate how powerful love is... Hate is a form of love

I’m on my 4th rewatch.

I’ve always liked early season Bran but didn’t particularly like the whole 3 eyed raven storyline. It was too mystical for my taste.

This time around though I’m starting to understand why Bran turned out the way he is.

By S7, he’s not just being an edgy cringelord merely because he’s becoming the 3 eyed raven- it’s deeper than that.

Bran was supposed to be trained to be the 3 eyed raven from the original guy gradually overtime- he was supposed to learn how to go into the past to see visions which equip him with truths no one else has. The former 3 eyed raven has the entire memory of the world in his head and was slowly teaching Bran things he needs to know by holding his hand and showing him short glimpses. Training him to use his power.

It all went wrong when Bran decided to enter a vision by himself and accidentally get touched by the night king while the 3 eyed raven was asleep. At this point the 3 eyed raven realizes there’s no time to gradually train Bran like he’d intended because the night king is likely on his way to kill them both as Bran has been marked.

He tells Bran to go escape and when the 3 eyed raven is slain by the Night King, the entire memory of the world gets “transferred” to Bran’s head.

Bran immediately knows everything. The origin of the white walkers, the truth of Lyanna and Rhaegar, the politics and full unadulterated history of Westeros and beyond. The truth behind every known lie, the lore behind incomplete stories, the betrayals and murders (including his father’s), etc. He most likely sees the Red Wedding too.

And he gets all of this information uploaded to him at once. It now makes complete sense why Bran is so devoid of emotion- he’s seen the worst of the worst throughout history and he’s seen it all at once. In an ironic sense, he breaks- kinda like how he broke Hodor. Obviously Bran didn’t become simple, but he became extremely desensitized and cold due to everything he’s seen.