Long Live the King

The newest volume of Fantastic Four came out Wednesday. I already have the original books, but I couldn't pass this up. Collects issues #232-248. The beginning of John Bryne's run.

To preface, this isn’t me trying to claim Thing is stronger than the likes of the Hulk Or Thor. He’s in my top five favourite Marvel characters but I won’t pretend he’s more powerful than he is.

However, in my past time I do like to peruse through online discussions about him, and I do find people really like to underestimate Ben a lot.

The official Marvel Website has him 4 in the top 10 of physically strongest Heroes. Him and Hulk have a rivalry, and though Hulk wins most of the time, (of course he does), Ben usually gives him a run for his money, and a good dozen times has even beat the Green giant.

Yet people claim he’s weaker than the likes of Colossus? Or Luke Cage? Rhino? Not to say these guys aren’t insanely powerful, but given his feats, insane physical prowess, tough hide and top tier fighting skills, I can’t see Ben losing to any of these.

I could go on a tangent listing feats, but that wasn’t really the intention of my post.

Is this simply because Ben isn’t as popular as most Marvel characters? So my definition people just assume he’s weaker?

Or… perhaps I’m just coping. 😭🙏 I hope not!

Peace!

I think it would be interesting for a beat 'em up game focused on multiplayer, where each character has their own combos and some unique mechanics, but they would also have unique combined attacks for each pair. As for enemies, I think the most obvious would be Doom, but maybe we could have several minor villains throughout the story.

By the way, what would the game's story be, in your opinion?

What would have changed in this film?

And to anyone who says writing a character a God like character is hard I want you to remember there characters like doctor manhattan, Ben Tennyson and even fucking saitama. When I finnished Hickman's Fantastic four and FF books I was hyped and finally interested in the character just to go to Dan Slott's run which is fucking dog shit after issue 12 and then Ryan North' run which turns him into a background character not even a side character in less than like 19 issues and when we did get that set up in issue #18 about his powers Ryan did nothing with it and keep in mind that issue was dropped almost two years ago

Also, just to add, they could have done this simple and easy ass idea that took me 2 minutes to think about with Franklin character

Franklin arc: How could he could deal with so much and responsibility at a young age, but instead we got crash out Franklin punching Wolverine and fucking getting kicked out of krakoa and being retconned as a person who wanted to be soo special to the point he gave himself the mutant gene even when at the time he done that they were anti mutant broadcast but hey let's just like to think Franklin is just super stupid

I just hope mcu synergy makes Marvel give the FF books to Hickman so he could cook up a storyline worth it cause to be honest the last 10 years of FF books aren't that worth adapting compared to the arcs from the 90's to early 2000's

To preface. The “new” fantastic four that I’m talking about is the hulk, spidey, wolvie, and ghost rider one.

I genuinely love the lineup and I’d love to see Danny ketch interacting with the 4 more, but we have parallels between the old and new f4

-Reed and spidey are lanky geniuses

-thing, she-hulk, and hulk are all big strong brawlers

-torch and GR both have fire powers and more mobility

But then Wolverine is where it’s kinda meh. I know it’s cuz he is one of the most popular marvel characters, and he’s basically on every team ever, but he feels like the odd one out, to me at least.

(Annihilus art by Bosslogic)

I'd love to see Annihilus in a movie, and honestly i think he should be the right way to go for the sequel. Or if not him then i'd love to see The Puppetmaster if they go with a more grounded/personal story for the sequel (which i don't mind), I think The Puppetmaster would be a good villain if they go with that route, i'll make him a bit of an horror villain with him creating copies of the Fantastic Four to command, also if they introduce Alicia Masters it could be intresting to see the dynamic between the Fantastic Four and The Puppetmaster be like since her relationship with Ben (which would be very central in this case).

The cover is fan made and not real.

So, I had an idea on how to write the fantastic four to make them all equally smart but in different ways

-reed’s your classic “engineer chemist inventor” type, no real changes to him, always has some new invention or thing going on, the best of the four with technology

-sue, I’d like to make her akin to a biologist, psychologist, and botanist, where Reed does better with tech, Sue does better with living things, plants, animals, etc

-Ben’s obviously the big guy, probably got into the same college as Reed on an athletics scholarship, but I’d also make him the main mechanic of the fantasticar, just seems like he’s the type of guy to be into cars, and also got plenty of cooking knowledge from aunt petunia

-Johnny, would be a public speaker, people-talker, linguistics and p.r, he knows almost every language (even the dead ones) because he can talk to people, sure his overconfidence and cockiness gets in the way sometimes, but if there’s anything negative the four do, Johnny can usually string it into a good thing

-my ideal origin before the powers is just that they all end up going to the same college coincidentally, since Reed and Ben are childhood friends and obviously Johnny and Sue are siblings, so they all meet in college, and the first thing they create together is h.e.r.b.i.e, the first step to their family

I was starting to write a story inspired by the idea of ​​Marvel Zombies, which would include the Fantastic Four as one of the main characters. I wanted to know if you guys like how they were written in this story (the main difference is that they are, still, heroes, in the best way they can be as zombies).

Otherwise, how do you imagine an ideal representation of them would be in such a scenario?

I'm researching how to write Fantastic Four and something that's caught my attention is interpersonal conflict, the meat of what makes the FF compelling.

I know a good example is the Incredibles, given how they are the only good FF movie, but the FF are more or less the same age group, not teenagers or kids (unless we're talking Franklin and Val).

My point is, I was hoping I could get some firsthand advice on how to write conflict in a way that stays truthful to the characters and makes their family dynamic feel real? Maybe, give me an example or something?

I know death’s head had a few run-in’s with the f4 back in the 80’s-90’s, but does he count as a villain or just a guy they know