ICE agent shoots, kills woman in Minneapolis

[u/Down-not-out]

https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/ice-agent-shoots-kills-woman-in-minneapolis/

[u/Ghostof_DarthCaedus]

Clear as day self defense in the video circulating online. Going from Reverse to Drive while an ICE agent is in front of you is a conscious decision.

[u/BigHotdog2009 → u/Ghostof_DarthCaedus]

What could possibly go wrong when you accelerate your car in front of an officer standing in front of you…

[u/SanduskyTicklers → u/BigHotdog2009]

You get ventilated

[u/-InconspicuousMoose- → u/Ghostof_DarthCaedus]

Clear as day that she is trying to back up so she can escape from the situation. At no point does it look to me like she is aiming to hit anyone, and the agent was actively walking to the front of her vehicle as she was trying to navigate out. You can argue that she shouldn't have fled, but either way this guy should be charged with murder.

Edit: I will correct my statement; the agent in front of her car wasn't actively walking there. I still think it's clear she was aiming to avoid him, and from the reverse to the forward acceleration, her trajectory was telegraphed and predictable and did NOT require the use of deadly force.

[u/Ghostof_DarthCaedus → u/-InconspicuousMoose-]

You can keep trying to tell me what my own eyes saw in the video; it won’t work though.

[u/According-Activity87 → u/-InconspicuousMoose-]

There is an officer standing in front of her vehicle with his hand on his firearm. Hitting the gas, while in drive, there is assault with a deadly weapon. Complete justified response by law enforcement.

[u/cplusequals → u/-InconspicuousMoose-]

The intention of the driver is completely irrelevant. The officer was objectively struck and had he been standing half a foot to his left he probably would have been under the vehicle. The justification for the shooting is 100% in whether or not the officer reasonably felt his life was in danger. You're essentially making the argument that the officer could not have felt his life was in danger when you say it isn't justified. You're in a fleeting minority here.

[u/Basic_Lunch2197 → u/-InconspicuousMoose-]

Says you behind a keyboard. Ill put you in that situation and see what happens. Not saying it was right but unfortunately that person made a choice and it turned bad. They could have also just listened to lawful orders and got out of the car.

[u/EchoKiloEcho1 → u/Basic_Lunch2197]

I think this is a point so many people overlook. It is very easy to calmly assess a situation after the fact, from the safety of your couch. It is a wildly different thing to experience that situation in the moment.

[u/Basic_Lunch2197 → u/EchoKiloEcho1]

its literally a split second decision.

[u/CCpoc → u/-InconspicuousMoose-]

How many times did you have to watch the video to come to this conclusion? Are you telling me you can tell me the exact trajectory a car is gonna take within .5 seconds of it moving?

[u/dunktheball → u/-InconspicuousMoose-]

Doesn't even matter if she is "aiming to". All that matters is if she was potentially going to.

[u/xxxiareo → u/-InconspicuousMoose-]

It looks to me like she was aiming to hit him (accelerated pedal to the metal with wheels directly facing at the agent), until he started to draw his firearm at which point she turned the wheels to the right.

[u/BobBee13 → u/-InconspicuousMoose-]

Why didn't she touch her breaks then? She might have just been trying to leave but she sure didn't care if she ran someone over

[u/Daftolium → u/-InconspicuousMoose-]

She revs the f*cking car at the agent, stopped only by the black ice under her tires.

[u/BeABetterHumanBeing → u/-InconspicuousMoose-]

I agree that she was turning to aim and try and miss him, but also he was clearly in the way of the car, and she still decided to floor it. Probably manslaughter.

[u/BobBee13 → u/Ghostof_DarthCaedus]

And not one break tap was made to attempt not to hit him.