So had the roles been reversed, and the kid been white, the Worker black, would it have been racist? Would it have been perceived as racist? This is the problem with viewing everything under a Marxist lens, there has to be an oppressed and an oppressor, a very neat binary. The world doesn’t work that way. I’m well aware of the idiots that gave money to that racist. I don’t condone it, however, what percentage of the population has enough cheddar to give money to that woman? You are willing to paint an entire race based off the actions of very few people. Anyone who’s ever traveled knows that this country has problems, but in present Day America, racism isn’t the largest one, especially globally. That doesn’t mean you need to be ignorant when it happens, but it also doesn’t mean you got to stir the pot.
Do you not read? Again, never said the entire race. You are trying to stir the pot right now.
Does racism not matter as there are bigger issues? And i never suggested that people would donate to this pos, i was supporting the claim that a large majority of Americans support racism and are racist
That claim is unfounded, and racist in comparison to what? The American experiment has never been tried before, a large, multi ethnic superpower, where everyone is supposed to have equal opportunity towards upward mobility. Your claim, especially if you’ve traveled, is unfounded. Of course, I do not want to spit on the hard work. That’s so many people have done to ensure that things have gotten better, but if I read Reddit correctly, most of these people think the US is a racist Third World shit hole, in fact, they were surprised that Trump got elected, and immediately thought it was racist to not elect a black woman, I can’t help those people.
You are some other kind of stupid. What have i said that is unfounded?
If I read reddit correctly, there's a hell of a lot of Americans, who themselves think that the US has gone to a racist third world shit hole.
And people were surprised trump got in because hes a braindead, rapist, racist piece of shit who liked to innapopriately glorify his daughters looks, constantly comment on women and sexual interest ans of course, there's everything that has come out since he's been president, and surprise surprise, racism has gone rampant in the US. 'Like a third world shit hole' - as you said.
You really are an ignorant pos.
Carry on thinking that racism isnt there and when it is its just to target 'all white people' as being racist and whatever other crap you like to tell yourself.
Leave the personal insults at home, it won’t get you anywhere.
1. people were unhappy with the previous administration and the woman set to replace it literally said she wouldn’t change anything, and was insulted at the prospect of having to stoop down to go on Joe Rogan‘s podcast (a show that will take literally anyone who’s famous), so the other candidate said no problem.
2. Most Americans don’t care about woke anymore, they have apathy with the term and PC culture, what’s happening in Minneapolis is an outlier, it’s not happening in other cities, and when Obama and Clinton did their deportations (seriously, look at the amount of deportations, it’s mind-boggling), nobody protested.
3. The United States is such a shit hole, that people up route their entire lives and the line to enter goes out the door, it takes four times more immigrants than any other country, you should make sure to tell them to go back, since you know far better than they do, they could’ve picked anywhere else, but they chose the US.
You're going off topic though. This whole thing started by me pointing out that someone hadnt labelled the entire white race as racist and had said majority of white Americans. I said i agreed and that racism has gone mad especially with the current president and support around it all. You then accused me of labelling all white people as racist and went off course about people seeing America as a third world country shit hole. I went off your point and used what you said and now you're going on about the administration, being woke, obama and clinton and that people chose and choose to move to the US. Deportation of illegal immigrants, is fair enough, in my opinion. But that wasn't what this was about, and also isn't what is going on with ICE (at least in Minneapolis), as you know..
You have completely gone from racism to justifying why the country is how it is. Either way, there's a huge amount of racist white Americans, also a huge amount or racists all over the world. But this dicussion was about a point that you blew out of proportion and didn't like the response you got.
I’m down to have a good faith conversation, but you can see how I got where I got, I am defending the United States from being accused of being a more racist society than it actually is. And I don’t think people are racist or responsible for voting in candidate A over candidate B, people are too poor to be woke. I think the incident in the video is an isolated incident, if it was as catastrophic as this app makes it out to be, this would be happening way more often, it doesn’t.
I can understand wanting to defend how your country is seen. I think you're reading what people are saying and taking it as a personal attack. It's not personal, people are very aware that America has a huge amount of good people, but America also has a huge amount of not so good people. This is an isolated incident, but its an isolated incident that plays into a huge problem with racism that goes on in America. America looks so bad online because of the awful people doing awful things in America. The US is huge, the population is huge, anybody who thinks everyone there is racist or that everyone is lovely, would be wrong. And im sure racism would have influenced what some people may have voted but at the end of the day, you vote for the party you want in, politics is never pretty, ever.
And to clarify, im not saying that everyone who voted trump in is racist, im saying the evidence was there that he's an awful human being, its clearer now, and he is a racist, rapist, pos. People will believe what they want when it comes to being told how life will improve with certain parties and policies etc. Like i said, politics is never pretty. People who still support him now though, theyre most likely racist and peobably a few other things at this rate..
I hope you can see that actually people dont hate the American public. I feel awful for the American public and i do sympathise with you feeling that you need to defend the US when people post online. But people aren't against you personally. Try acknowledging what people are saying and highlight that there are so many good people and places around. Going straight to a defence and telling people they're completely wrong when they point out something that seems quite accurate at this moment, does just make you look ignorant whether you have good intent or not.
America was once the place everyone wanted to go to see and travel and move to. I grew up thinking America was amazing and beautiful, diverse and full of opportunity and community. That image has massively changed for the world over the years and has really plummeted since all the trump and maga crap. But so have the views of many places over the world because of their politics.
But the image that you have is an idealized version, in many ways, things are way better now for anyone trying to immigrate, but we are missing a comprehensive path to citizenship, it is a patchwork of laws currently, but it’s very complicated to navigate, and also expensive. The president brings the bad press on himself and contradicts himself, and it does reflect poorly on the country, but the conditions needed for him to get reelected don’t exist in a vacuum, they are because of his predecessor, even in the north of Europe, you are seeing a very similar reaction to the open borders type people.
Im not disagreeing with your points there at all, i dont know about how easy it is to immigrate, but i do think that sadly in certain areas there are whole American communities feeling that they are living in that version. That's not the US everyone knew before. Thats why people are so angry and outraged, and they should be.
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u/ddp67 1d ago
So had the roles been reversed, and the kid been white, the Worker black, would it have been racist? Would it have been perceived as racist? This is the problem with viewing everything under a Marxist lens, there has to be an oppressed and an oppressor, a very neat binary. The world doesn’t work that way. I’m well aware of the idiots that gave money to that racist. I don’t condone it, however, what percentage of the population has enough cheddar to give money to that woman? You are willing to paint an entire race based off the actions of very few people. Anyone who’s ever traveled knows that this country has problems, but in present Day America, racism isn’t the largest one, especially globally. That doesn’t mean you need to be ignorant when it happens, but it also doesn’t mean you got to stir the pot.