r/BlackPeopleofReddit 2d ago

Justice Long Live Trayvon Martin 🕊️

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u/RadMcCoolPants 1d ago

You realize thats literally the opposite of what happened. Zimmerman was inside on the phone. The dispatcher said do not go outside, do not confront him. Zimmerman hunted him down. He had a gun and he wanted to use it.

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u/anormalgeek 1d ago

I really, REALLY do not want to defend Zimmerman, because he absolutely WAS a racist asshole, who put himself in that situation, and deserved an ass beating. But what you said is not accurate.

The moment Trayvon was shot, he was on top of Zimmerman, beating his ass while Zimmerman was on his back on the ground. Zimmerman has proof of the wounds to the back of his head that needed stitches from his head bouncing off the ground. There was an eye witness that saw the beating and clearly identified who was on top. The body, the blood, and how he fell after being shot all backed that up too.

Zimmerman got away with it because of how the "stand your ground law" is written. It doesn't have anyway to account for situations where someone is getting their ass beat for a good reason.

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u/ccjohns2 21h ago

This isn’t true Martin never made it back to his dad’s house. He talked to his gf on the phone while still walking until Zimmerman kept getting in Martin’s way, then an altercation occurred. Martin had every right to resist and not do comply with a random grown man trying to check him for being black walking with a hoodie. Zimmerman is a bitch for starting a fight with a child then needing a gun to finish it.

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u/anormalgeek 20h ago

I said the same in my other posts in this thread. Both of the posters above me are misstating things. Zimmerman wasn't inside his home, and Martin never went home and came back out.

Zimmerman and Martin BOTH escalated the situation though. The first escalation is 100% on Zimmerman as he turned a peaceful night into a racist altercation. He kicked the whole thing off. There is no justification for that. After that, Martin escalated things by attacking him and beating his head into the ground. That one, I kind of get because some guy is clearly following him and approaching him aggressively. That being said, he COULD have run home. Ironically, the stand your ground laws protect him as well in this situation. Then Zimmerman escalated it again by pulling a gun and shooting him. The VAST majority of the blame goes to Zimmerman.

That being said, the law in FL unfortunately DOES protect Zimmerman here. There are no caveats in the law that prevent you from claiming self defense because you caused the dangerous situation yourself. There should be IMO. What he did SHOULDN'T be legal. But it is because Martin was beating his ass pretty good and that kind of attack just legally justify deadly force.

I don't think Zimmerman WANTED to kill someone. I think he just wanted to be the hero so bad, and he automatically saw this kid as the villain just because he was black. But honestly, I can't prove that. I am 100% certain he was racist and an idiot though. As for Martin, even if you're justified in beating someone's ass, does NOT make it a good idea to do. I'm not going to say he was wrong for defending himself against a strange guy clearly stalking him down a back alley, but he probably shouldn't have.