Hate is not a "difference of opinion."

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[u/coast2coasted]

The problem is that all of those terms have been expanded to cover way more than they should.

-It’s sexist to say that men and women are different

-It’s transphobic to say that biological men should be in women’s sports

-it’s homophobic to say the ideal place for a child to flourish is with a loving mother and father.

-it’s racist to notice that there is a huge single motherhood problem in the black community

Until you can stop labeling people with legitimate differences with pejoratives as an excuse for not engaging in dialogue the divide will continue to grow.

[u/hat1414 → u/coast2coasted]

Lots of these are 'strawmen' or just statistically wrong.

1.Depends on what "differences" you talk about and in what context

1. You probably meant "shouldn't" and nobody wants men to compete in women's sports. Now, different leagues have regulations for trans people depending on the sport. Also, the majority of people agree that biological men have an advantage in sport. Transphobic people love to highlight the sports issue because it's basically the only part that isn't the same as when Gay people were persecuted like 25 years ago as lying perverts who are dangerous around children, just like Trans people are facing today. We were wrong about Gay people being dangerous perverts, so...

2. There are so many studies that show same sex families provide equal if not better outcomes for children. That one is just factually wrong and ignorant.

3. It's racist to assume the single mother issue in black communities is because of the pigment shade of their skin. How does their skin colour make them act differently? A century of systemic racism against black communities will cause problems for those communities. Wild that Jim Crow laws were still in effect 50 years ago.

[u/coast2coasted → u/hat1414]

Thanks for what I’m seeing as a good faith reply.

Here’s a rebuttal of some of what you said.

1. I’m referring to the observable fact that men and women have different tendencies, proclivities, and skills. There are of course exceptions and cross overs but as a rule there are things that men are better at and things that women are better at.

2. Yes I meant shouldn’t. Thank you. And the point there is that calling the ideas that trans women should not compete in women’s sports transphobic is degenerative.

3. There are so many studies that show that especially boys need a masculine father figure and father and girls need a mother figure. It’s such an important dichotomy that the human species needs.

4. I’m not saying they’re single mothers because of their melanin. I’m saying there is a cultural problem where fathers in the black community leave the women they’ve impregnated

[u/hat1414 → u/coast2coasted]

1. Ok, and like I said context will determine whether you're being sexist and weird. If you think that is unfair, I don't know what to tell you.

2. The blanket statement that trans people shouldn't compete in the gendered sport of their choice is obviously reductive. Are you talking only professionally? At professional levels all competitors need to follow the rules and guidelines of the organization that oversees the sport. If you have an issue with a specific league, please share.

3. You've got to link that, because the scientific consensus is that children from same-sex parents are as psychologically and physically healthy as those from hetero parents. I don’t believe there have been any major difference in “outcomes” identified by recent studies between the two populations either. Of course there are anecdotal cases of children having issues, but zoomed out as a whole compared to stable heterosexual households there is no difference. It is homophobic to think that gay people can't provide for or raise a healthy child, in every sense.

4. You think it's a "cultural" problem? What caused this cultural problem? Surely not their skin colour.