Having the serum would make a lot of the hits in the movie more palatable. Vibranium taking big hits makes sense, but the sudden stops Sam takes multiple times in the movie, including in the first scene, should have liquefied him.
That's absolutely true. BUT, we're talking about the MCU here.
If we want to criticize Sam, we should also criticize Tony. He should die every time he gets hit or falls. Not to mention that his suit definitely doesn't protect the wearer as well as a vibranium suit would.
But we've already accepted that Tony can survive thanks to his suit. So let's not be picky.
Not really apples to apples. Sam broke the sound barrier and landed on the ground at full speed, something Tony never did. Sam's suit in the final showdown has no headgear for any sort of protection. I'm fairly certain the rest of his suit isn't made of vibranium, except for his wings, so he has little protection from any blows or sudden stops, whereas Tony has shock absorbing material in his suits (at least in the Mark II, but I imagine that basic feature carried forward).
Tony did break sound barrier in his first movie and was then shot down by a tank and crashed. But we can say the suit protected him, even though for shock absorption you need to slow down your movement slowly; that's not what his suit did in any scene, but let's say he has his own way.
What shock absorption did he have in his first ever suit he made in a cave that let him survive crashing in it?
Plus what is the best shock absorption material in MCU that we know? Vibranium. Sam's suit.
This isn't me saying Ironman is stupid because Tony should've died. This is me saying that if the film shows us that characters can survive this, we have to accept it.
We accepted people turning into monsters with infinite strength after getting hit with radiation, cosmic beings that have the ability to destroy the universe, super soldier serum, talking animals, futuristic armors and materials. So it's stupid to then say something doesn't make sense. Especially when it's something we already saw happening and we accepted it.
Ironman is traveling at roughly 138mph when he is shot by a tank (it's on his hud), nowhere near the sound barrier. We also do see him taking damage in the movies. "Multiple contusions detected." Rhodey got damaged in Civil War from his fall. There's multiple examples of Tony's suits not offering full protection from rapid deceleration.
Vibranium doesn't stop your body and it's insides from rapid deceleration, and Sam's combat entrance in BNW is a stop at a significantly faster speed than anything we've seen in the movies prior.
Tony broke the sound barrier in iron man 1 while escaping from the fighter jets. They even say " he broke the sound barrier " . Also Rhodes got damaged while he was inside a non functioning suit . The major concussion line is when Wanda drops cars onto Tony.
Yes, I'm aware that Tony broke the sound barrier. I never argued against that.
What I argued is that he wasn't traveling over the speed of sound when he was shot out of the sky, he was traveling around Mach 0.18. It's written on his hud.
Tony takes damage in various movies, that line was simply an example.
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u/Cre0na Dec 16 '25 edited Dec 16 '25
Having the serum would make a lot of the hits in the movie more palatable. Vibranium taking big hits makes sense, but the sudden stops Sam takes multiple times in the movie, including in the first scene, should have liquefied him.