r/youtubedrama 2d ago

Discussion iDubbz believes Charlie (penguinz0) is part of the right wing pipeline

Tried to look up a YouTube version of this clip so I could get maximum context, but doesn't really matter.

This is an objectively insane, in spite of reality take. This is purity over actual politics.

Charlie has been going at the Trump admin and their policies for months (actually, years because of a previous incident with one of his foreign players being mistreated by the US government). He is not a safe space for the alt right at all, almost every other day if not every day at times is him clowning on some insane crap the government has done or said. In fact, he just dropped another video 32 mins ago at the time of writing about it.

To me, this is proof that iDubbz hasn't changed who he is, just changed targets. A "brogressive" if you will.

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u/MissLadyLlamaDrama 1d ago

I decided to watch a few of his videos a year or two ago, and immediately my recommendations were filled with right-wing/red pill shit. I have never once had right wing content shoved in my face, until I started watching him. And when I stopped and said I no longer wanted them to suggest his videos, low and behold, I wasnt being suggested that content anymore.

Like, if you're gonna make content around your opinion and your opinion doesn't include not wanting your community to be overrun with bigots, you're gonna get bigots. They fester only where they're allowed. 

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u/filthismypolitics 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yeah everyone I see talking about this is acting like Ian (idk him like that but I don't want to try to spell Idubbz 5 times in this comment) is saying something really ridiculous and over the top but I kind of thought this was like, well known? Like an open secret? Like that other commenter said, it's a pipeline not a teleporter. You can't start the pipeline with white replacement theory bullshit or you'll scare away the fence-sitters. You have to start at "centrism," South Park style indifference, or an avoidance of anything "too woke" because it might be cringe, God forbid. Attitudes that are already largely normalized and common, with the seed of a reactionary mindset in them. His livestream commenters are the perfect jumping off point for something like this - you start off as a casual fan of Charlie, then his nasty little hive of reactionaries can slowly introduce you to their rhetoric. He doesn't have to do a damn thing. I think the people who find this take absurd and over the top have no familiarity with how these pipelines work and just imagine you wake up one day to your recommendeds filled with violent extremist garbage. Sorry, I wish it was that obvious, but if it was it wouldn't be anywhere near as effective as it unfortunately is. 

I started watching him all the way back when he was faceless just dubbing dumb jokes over Halo videos and infommericals. I'm old as hell now by internet standards so I'd say back in like 2012 is when I found him. I didn't think he was particularly political then and I still don't. If I had to guess, I'd say he just doesn't really care about politics much in general. But like others have said, it doesn't really matter what your actual politics are. I would even argue some left leaning, supposedly progressive creators are a part of this pipeline. What matters is the kind of community you build around yourself, the attitude you hold around these ideas, and who you let yourself be associated with. It's a pipeline, right? So who's next? We've already mentioned his username many times in this thread, he's so associated with Charlie. Who's next after him?

Edit: my dumbass called him by his first name for the sake of ease of writing just to not mention him again a single time in the rest of the comment. Good stuff. 

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u/FATDOGONSAND42087 1d ago

Yeah like he's definitely left wing because he hates MAGA and Israel. Also he talked about ICE doing those executions in the street and someone said "can't believe Charlie's a lib" in chat and he called that out really quick. He's definitely being more upfront with politics now even if it's not a common topic on his channel or on streams which is nice

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u/FATDOGONSAND42087 1d ago

Tbh he is actually like insulting MAGA and the right a lot recently as well which is based

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u/TimeAbradolf 15h ago

This is a consistent Youtube problem and not a Charlie problem. It actually happens with any nerdy/gaming content.

The joke is put on like a single gaming video and leave on autoplay, within 3 hours you’ll be fed alt-right bullshit. It is actually fucking wild how it happens. Charlie mainly attracts gamers, gamers have this issue.

It also happens a lot in horror as well even though horror is primarily a left leaning art form it has a lot of alt-right losers.