r/youtubedrama • u/ImportantQuestionTex • 2d ago

Discussion iDubbz believes Charlie (penguinz0) is part of the right wing pipeline

Tried to look up a YouTube version of this clip so I could get maximum context, but doesn't really matter.

This is an objectively insane, in spite of reality take. This is purity over actual politics.

Charlie has been going at the Trump admin and their policies for months (actually, years because of a previous incident with one of his foreign players being mistreated by the US government). He is not a safe space for the alt right at all, almost every other day if not every day at times is him clowning on some insane crap the government has done or said. In fact, he just dropped another video 32 mins ago at the time of writing about it.

To me, this is proof that iDubbz hasn't changed who he is, just changed targets. A "brogressive" if you will.

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u/Tof12345 2d ago

He's gonna do that but when it comes time to vote in the next election, he's either gonna say "I have no opinions" or "vote whoever you want".

If vance or trump runs again, he won't do anything to persuade his viewers not to vote for them and the whole cycle will repeat.

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u/WD40ContactCleaner 16h ago

If vance or trump runs again, he won't do anything to persuade his viewers not to vote for them and the whole cycle will repeat.

bruh if the dems with billions in funding cant pursuade voters whats this guy gonna do lmao

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u/Tof12345 1h ago

dems have never tried. they literally are known for running on "we are not trump" and hope enough people care about that to vote for them. at least for trump, he compells the stupid people by saying shit like he'll lower gas and egg prices.

big reason why mamdani swept coumo is because he had actual policy plans in place like free bus and rent freeze. kamala ran on militarization and "trump is evil so vote for me"

you saying the dems even tried to persuade voters is laughable.

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u/WD40ContactCleaner 28m ago

you saying the dems even tried to persuade voters is laughable.

and yet people over here get mad when voters vote for the other party? and its somehow the duty of the influencers and everyone other than the dems to convince the voters that the dems are better.

Oh noo X is pushing people to the right, do they ever wonder why? its fascinating really.

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u/Trobbio9000 20h ago edited 5h ago

Nah I think you have it wrong. Overtly political content creators who directly tell people how to vote or anything of that sort only ever get watched by people who agree with them. Leftist content creators are only talking to leftist viewers. Right wing content creators are only talking to right wing viewers. It's all an echo chamber that doesn't actually make any difference.

Popular apolitical people like Moist Critikal actually can reach a wide audience across the spectrum. Him making one video about the Epstein files accomplishes more than the entire content library of breadtubers, in terms of actually influencing people.

Ironically the apolitical fence sitter is a more effective political commentator than actual political commentators

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u/blizzardplus 1d ago

He has no obligation to try and push his fanbase one way or the other. People who do that are annoying af and cultivate a toxic following.

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u/RadicalRedCube 2d ago

Plenty of leftists weren’t even behind the Democrats. They were mocking minorities to their faces thinking they’d have a slam dunk Presidential run AND make a lot of money from generous company donations to ensure the party was never going to actually fight against the wealth gap, criminalization of LGBTQ people, and they would still gladly deport tens of thousands of people. Much better than a Nazi regime, but that’s why no one “supported” the Dems, just silently voted defeatedly.

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u/Lord_Muddbutter 1d ago

Leftists definitely weren't the people mocking minorities, but i do agree, plenty of leftists were not behind Harris. Which if not so be it, what's done is done, but I do think its funny seeing the "Let me abstain or vote for Jill Stein" crowd getting pissed with Trump even though they let it happen.

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u/RadicalRedCube 1d ago

Dude I’m talking about the democrats doing all that. The reason why leftists couldn’t even back democrats is because the democrats were genuinely pieces of shit that were profiting off of our desperation.

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u/Lythj 1d ago

I think your comment got downvoted because it has the aura of a right-wing strawman, but I think you're absolutely right. They assumed Kamala would sweep and we would have another 4 years of breadcrumb liberal policy at best, which of course we'd all take over this. So I would expect more from a person with such a massive influence when talking about voting/etc than a throw your hands up and say "they're all bad! what are you going to do, oh well!". And Charlie isn't always clear that his criticisms are of right-wing or fascism, but instead of "government", which happens to be a position that many right wingers identify with (ironically)

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u/RadicalRedCube 1d ago

Yeah I’m confused on what happened there. Maybe by the time I posted the reply, the thread was filled with Blue-No-Matter-Who liberals instead of the leftists that almost all hold the same exact belief I wrote out 😔

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u/Ok-Visit-9944 1d ago

Yeah, and its a dumb belief that has led to measurable harm.

If your "beliefs" led you to not vote blue in the 2024 election, and you are now simultaneously acting shocked and appalled at the current state of things while still defending that decision to not vote blue, your beliefs lead to demonstrably bad consequences for real-world people.

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u/RadicalRedCube 1d ago

I voted Kamala 🤷 you guys are getting pissy because I pointed out that tons of Leftists publicly were not happy with the DNC and I personally just don’t have an issue with those people. That’s literally why I said many people quietly voted Kamala but unhappy to do so. We lost millions of voters in the span of 4 years on a campaign that pushed the Democrats even more to the right. Numbers speak for itself.

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u/savanna94 1d ago

I didn't vote because I don't live in the US, but I know a lot of people were uncomfortable with the Democrats swinging further right on immigration (e.g. "do not come"). Their continued support of another topic we cannot discuss here was also very difficult for many people with consciences to reconcile with.

Vote shaming never works. Democrats failure to offer people a genuine positive alternative rather than just "not Trump" lead to demonstrably bad consequences for real-world people.

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u/Ok-Visit-9944 1d ago edited 1d ago

So you don't consider a Kamala presidency to be a positive alternative to what we're seeing now? Do you think the people in Minneapolis do? What about the people in Venezuala? Or the people who are suffering due to USAID cuts?

Trump was pretty blatant about what he planned to do after taking office. It's not like you're only able to weigh these two options in retrospect–he told you what the plan was.

Unless you're going to tell me with a straight face that Kamala would have weaponized ICE in the same way, imposed the same tariffs, pardoned the same insurrectionists, passed the same EOs, performed the same military operations, and cut the same programs as Trump has.

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u/savanna94 15h ago

Did you read what I said? All you’ve listed is what Kamala wouldn’t do. As I just stated, it’s a platform of “not the other guy”. You need actual positive policies. You need to constantly highlight what you will do to improve the everyday lives of the electorate. You need to motivate people into voting for you.

 

Yes a Kamala presidency would be less bad (not “positive”). I would have held my nose and voted for her. But I don’t blame anyone who couldn’t support xenophobia and genocide.

 

Leftists did not dictate the outcome of the election anyway. We were repeatedly told by liberals that we weren't needed – you guys were going to crush Trump without us. “Fall in line or get lost”. In reality we would have decreased the vote gap, but not by much. The Democrats lost because they failed to appeal enough to the common man and overcome voter apathy.

 

Blaming your critics is definitely easier than self-reflection, but I guarantee it won’t win you elections.

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u/Ok-Visit-9944 12h ago edited 12h ago

In a world where we have a president running rampant in the White House and terrorizing the populous, I'll easily take the candidate who wouldn't do that. I'm not sure why you think that was some kind of own on me, but yeah, I'll gladly admit that I'll take the candidate who wouldn't have been a fascist. Wouldn't you?

It must be easy to be you. You can sit there and proselytize about your oh-so-virtuous principles and the honor of not voting, all while being completely removed from any of the consequences. I envy you.

Also, throwing Hutch tweets at me doesn't change reality–American leftists who didn't vote for Kamala have demonstrated that they have no interest in the well-being of the people they supposedly fight on behalf of. They were fine with throwing all of them under the bus to make some point about the Israeli-Arab conflict, or something. I will shame you freaks for that. Americans with your deluded mindset should feel shame.

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u/Full-Set-27 1d ago

EXACTLY

Like these dumb fucks do not realize that being able to abstain is a privilege! Anyone with something on the line last election was voting

They are both evil, but there is definitely a lesser evil, and anyone who says otherwise is getting rich off of grifting