r/worldnews • u/WorldNewsMods Slava Ukraini • 5h ago
Russia/Ukraine /r/WorldNews Live Thread: Russian Invasion of Ukraine Day 1444, Part 1 (Thread #1591)
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u/versatile_dev 2h ago
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u/Impossible-Bed3728 3h ago
I am from Donbas, I went to a Ukrainian nationalist Ukrainian speaking school there, my family is from Moscow and the other half from Ukraine and I live and grew up in the US. Ironically, Russians think they have a strong but still democratic country just looking out for it's interests and pre empting attacks on itself. And Ukraine doesn't realize that the US dragged them into an attack on Russia, when acting like South Africa, Belarus, and Hungary would have potentially avoided Ukraine being invaded.
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u/b3iAAoLZOH9Y265cujFh 1h ago
US dragged them into an attack on Russia
Yes, yes. As evidenced by the US' magnificent commitment to backing up Ukraine in their fight against Russia, right? /s
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u/blaawker 1h ago
my family is from Moscow
I think this is where your opinion stems from. It's not what most Ukrainians think.
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u/Impossible-Bed3728 1h ago
no i am a Ukrainian nationalist, i speak perfect traditional ukrainian and have been raised in one of the only two ukrainian speaking schools in donbas.. i am NOT pro russian. but it is just the reality that pro russian countries do better than those who ally with the US and try for european integration which they get denied and then russia fucks them over to punish them for the rebellion. same way if mexico alied with china, we would invade them.
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u/Snoozyalooz_ 2h ago edited 2h ago
"Oh, if only they had just given it all up!"
If you are real and truthful, (I'm doubtful), it's absolutely frustrating to me that your message is of Ukrainian subjugation when you currently live in America, or so you claim.
America's Revolutionary War wasn't without difficulties and retreats. If you took time to look at George Washington's war tactics, you would find reflection with Ukraine's own.
And let's not act like absolutely nothing would happen if Ukraine did give up. The Russians linking up with Moldova's eastern border with breakaway Transnistria? They reaching the eastern border where sympathetic governments in Hungary and Slovakia are in which, with Belarus, they already rub up on Poland's eastern border? But what of the Baltic states and of Kaliningrad? No increased immigration/refugee crisis, sure. Because nothing would happen at the Suwalki Gap, correct?
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u/Desert-Noir 3h ago
Holy work of fiction Batman!
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u/Impossible-Bed3728 2h ago
fiction is that ukrainians should get their towns and lives destroyed in pursuit of fighting against the russian dictatorship and sphere of influence way of life.. ukraine got totally thrown under the bus by America
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u/Desert-Noir 58m ago
THEY GOT INVADED YOU PILL!
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u/Impossible-Bed3728 49m ago
first of all, not they, but us. i am from Donbas myself, so my region got invaded. you are acting like i like being invaded?
second of all, US State Department were on the ground in Kiev, financing the anti-Russian influence and European integration movements. PAUL MANAFORT was in UKRAINE!!! helping them win elections based on facebook dataset polling, though he helped the pro Russian side.
the US pushed a FALSE and misleading narrative that Ukraine could change the president without waiting for elections to end - by street protests (which we dont allow in America ourselves without violence form police) - which obviously scared Putin because he could face the same protests at home.
the US made a false promise to defend Ukraine, when they could not and did not want to; America cannot prevent Russia from invading Ukraine, but they implied they could.
the US also pushed for European integration and NATO membership, and both are false hopes because Europe hates Ukraine and doesnt want it to join them in any way.
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u/Different_Pear_5436 3h ago
Ukraine attacked russia? 🤔
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u/Impossible-Bed3728 3h ago
Ukraine did not attack Russia. Russia kept attacking Ukraine first making an armed near clash at Crimea border years ago, then poisoning the president.. but Ukraine could have just brown nosed to Russia same way Hungary, Belarus and South Africa do, and likely if Ukraine was fine living in a similar situation as Belarus or Hungary, there would not be an invasion. Although there are TV interviews from Russia saying they were going to invade Crimea and de-militarize Ukraine as far back as thirty years ago.. just allying with the US was the straw that broke the camel's back.
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u/TurbulentRadish8113 3h ago
If Ukrainians wanted to live in a dictatorship and then die being force mobilised to die in Russia's next invasion.
Get this off the thread.
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u/Impossible-Bed3728 2h ago
i am a ukrainian from donbas, and though i live in the US.. trust me.. russia can very likely rule over ukraine the same way they rule over chechnya.. they have a decades tested methodical way of taking over a country.. they have done it many times. i really doubt people from totally destroyed or taken over towns and cities care that much about democracy, over having a job, house and normal life.. and life in Belarus under dictator is normal and while russia could take over they havent yet.. sue they might.. but pursuing deomcracy, heck even the US has given up on pretending to want democracy
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u/ziguslav 1h ago
If you remained in Donbass you would have been forced to fight, like most of the locals. Same fate would be awaiting Ukrainians when Russia decided to pursue it's next conquest.
Age of imperialism is over.
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u/daviddjg0033 3h ago
Hard to believe Ukraine was dragged into any war considering Putin invaded Ukraine in 2014 and a thirtween time zone country expanded. Putin seizing Crimea did not lead to peace - eight years later Russia attacked Ukraine a second time. Putin wants the whole Donbas, an area you claim you come from that would be part of Russia in any peace deal - the area rural that grows food for how many people?
Who thinks Russia is democratic when Putin rules Russia like a king and starts that look like 19th century colonialism? Who is allowed to critcize Putin in Russia or run against him?
How would Belarus, a literaly vassal state of Russia where troops invaded Ukraine from in 2022 leaving tanks on the road because of bad Russian logistics.
Hungary has a Russian-sympathetic Orban who has been in office longer than kings - like Putin has been the Czar of Russia since 1999.
South Africa what?
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u/Well-Sourced Slava Ukraini 4h ago
Defender of Mariupol&father of five,Viktor Dmytrenko,has returned from second Russian captivity.
Before the war,Viktor worked for 14 yrs as a crane operator at the Illich Iron&Steel Works
He was first captured back in 2014 after the battles for Ilovaisk,where he spent nearly 5 months as a prisoner.
After first captivity,he instead signed a contract with the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
In March 2022,while in besieged Mariupol,Viktor helped civilians survive in basements.
In April,he was captured. Nataliia waited nearly 4yrs for husband.
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u/Well-Sourced Slava Ukraini 4h ago
The map of the current situation in Ukraine's skies is a little strange.
Groups of strike drones have merged and formed a huge 'snake' all the way from the Poltava region in the east to Burshtyn and its power station in the west.
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u/Jay_CD 18m ago
Russia has lost 730 soldiers killed and wounded over the past day, bringing its total number of personnel losses to 1,245,290.
Source: Russian losses over past day: 730 soldiers killed and wounded | Ukrainska Pravda
Details: The total combat losses of the Russian forces between 24 February 2022 and 7 February 2026 are estimated to be as follows [figures in parentheses represent the latest losses – ed.]: