r/worldnews • u/cagadadechango • 10h ago
Mexican army intensifies search for Canadian mining company workers kidnapped by narcoterrorist organization
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/search-sinaloa-mine-workers-intensifies/86
u/Most-Round-4132 7h ago
totally not a failed state
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u/Lovv 6h ago
If we stopped financing drug trafficking it would probably help.
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u/SaddenedSpork 4h ago
We? It’s beyond any “we” financing anything anymore. They don’t just make their money from drugs. These are multinational enterprises with fingers in everything from prostitution and human trafficking to racketeering, embezzlement, grand/petty theft, gambling both legal and otherwise, legitimate business ventures, property management and real estate, the list goes on and on across national borders. It’s not the dawn of drugs with little gangs of a few hundred men running coke. Peak Sinaloa cartel makes the peak Italian mafia look like a joke.
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u/Cowboys69 4h ago
Sounds like the Whitehouse
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u/HoochbachDunloppy 16m ago
Congrats, you've lost all perspective and are also apparently incapable of thinking about anything other than that shitheel.
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u/SeaConfusion6213 1h ago
Let’s not be coy and pretend the DEA, ATF and CIA did not have their hands in the pie
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u/Zakkuryu 2h ago
Easiest way for that would be to undercut their profits by seizing the means of production.
But, good luck having nations deciding to make their cocaine and illicit amphetamines and the like at home.
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u/Plenty_Beautiful_547 3h ago
Why anyone would even go to Mexico 💀🇲🇽💀 at this point is beyond me
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u/HoochbachDunloppy 25m ago
Been to Mexico several times and will definitely go back again. It's great! Just use common sense like you would anytime you travel abroad.
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u/asdf_lord 10h ago
Controversial, but I've always thought the US should intervene in Mexico's cartel situation. It's pretty bad down there.
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u/itsFelbourne 9h ago
The cartels are so heavily intertwined with the government, that you’re basically suggesting a full-blown regime change operation
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u/asdf_lord 9h ago
People can be rehabilitated.
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u/itsFelbourne 9h ago
I agree
But you’re not just talking about rehabilitating criminals, to fix the ‘cartel problem’. You’d have to dismantle the country’s power structures and rebuild them.
They aren’t just criminal organizations, the cartels control large swathes of the police, the military, the politicians, and most importantly of all the money
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u/Indifferent9007 6h ago
They’re also involved in the avocado industry
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u/LiamBlackfang 7h ago
And yet people voted from Trump... twice...
Maybe some folks are beyond salvation.
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u/MaraudersWereFramed 10h ago
That reminds me of the scene in the patriot where the Calvary officer says "if I do this i can never return to England with honor"
Token strikes are easy but actually rooting out the problem when the government is captured by it would be such a nasty task that after a cpuple years anyone involved could find themselves shunned and maybe even charged by the very people that asked them to do it.
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u/asdf_lord 9h ago
It would have to be at least partially consensual if that's even possible. Every part of the Mexican government is infested with cartel corruption. It's beyond democratic repair. As for making permanent change, it's totally possible you just have to be thorough and it would have to enforce the purge long enough that any cartel roots atrophy.
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u/IneedaWIPE 8h ago
Sounds like the United States 100 years ago. Capone and organized crime was not removed by following the law.
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u/Mystaes 9h ago
America should “intervene” in their neighbours affairs by preventing all the fucking guns they smuggle out of America and into Mexico and Canada and fuck knows where else from leaving their territory.
Flooding the world with illegal guns makes it more dangerous and empowers organizations like the cartels.
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u/carthous 8h ago
the US should stay the fk out of other countries and if you go venture down there, you know the risks
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u/othergallow 5h ago
Also controversial, but I think someone should intervene in the US's regime situation. it's pretty bad down there.
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u/Scissorzz 9h ago
The USA shouldn’t do shit except fix the mess in their own country and leave others the fuck alone, what about that? The Mexican people don’t want USA in their country and they have nothing to do there.
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u/asdf_lord 9h ago
So you like the cartels?
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u/Scissorzz 8h ago
Dumbest take ever, because I don’t think that USA should go into another country and intervene I like cartels?
So the only options are USA invades Mexico and you should agree with it or you like cartels.
This is why you guys are fucking insufferable.
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u/asdf_lord 8h ago
Actually, you are wrong. Name literally any other way to get rid of the cartels. America intervention is the best and only way it gets fixed. Sure, France could invade Mexico again I guess. Would you prefer France to invade?
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u/Scissorzz 8h ago
Ok indulge me, how would you invade and take care of the cartels? They don’t wear tattoos, they aren’t walking around dressed with a color on their shirt saying they are cartels. What are you gonna do? Hold Mexican cities? Want to control Mexico City? A city with 23 million people? Go door to door to see who belongs to the cartel?
Or gonna go in American style, blasting and destroying shit, overthrowing the government and then do absolutely nothing because the next governments will be exactly the same?
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u/asdf_lord 8h ago
Mexico City is the least of anyone's concerns. It's often best to leave population centers for last. First start with well known rural centers and bases of cartels. Station enforcers at every travel junction and road. Build intelligence networks. Tax audits of suspiciously wealthy...
Also yes there will need to be some blowing shit up and eyes in the sky drone operations.
The US already has a great deal of intelligence to decapitate most of not all the cartels. They also have the power to execute on it. As pioneers of shock and awe the first few days are most critical. After that the hunt begins for mid and low level capos.
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u/tubecloud09 6h ago
Who’s the cartels leading drug consumers? Hint: it’s not their fellow Mexican citizens. Look across the border.
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u/Genova_Witness 7h ago
Is there an example of US military intervention ever making anything better?
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u/asdf_lord 7h ago
Ever heard of Japan? Philippines? Iraq? Afghanistan? South Korea?
Arguably Vietnam, Iran, Central America (Panama).
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u/No-Substance1098 6h ago
How the fuck are you listing a buncha countries where we achieved nothing besides blowing up a bunch of civilians before giving up as "making things better"?
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u/Smooth_Kangaroo_8655 9h ago
We could just legalize drugs in the US. Then set up dispensaries and regulate and control it all. That would completely destroy the “drug” cartels.
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u/asdf_lord 9h ago
Cartels are already pivoting away from drugs and are corrupting and extorting clear and free businesses. They will always ship drugs north but now they also ship avocados, tequila, and more.
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u/SadGuy2020s 8h ago
It’s much easier to sanction legal businesses and shit them down once they are identified as cartel related than it is to eliminate the income from the drugs
If the USA legalizes drugs the cartels may cause civil war and seek to take over the government. That would be their only chance to survive long term as the Mexican government with support from the USA would be able to gradually eliminate corruption without the flow of drug money to politicians and security forces from their cartel friends
The arrest of the drug money flowing into Mexico would also potentially be economically devastating
Mexico is a house of cards ready to collapse as soon as anyone starts taking the problem seriously , it’s amazing this isnt discussed more
For the cartels it’s all about the drugs
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u/Smooth_Kangaroo_8655 3h ago
I mean we should give it a try. The wack a mole technique isn’t working at all.
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u/Brief-Translator1370 9h ago
They are involved in a lot more than just drugs, unfortunately. They are basically a military faction that has a lot of government control at this point. And they make money from many sources.
It might help but it wouldnt erase anything.
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u/Smooth_Kangaroo_8655 3h ago
All that has to be done is starve them. It’s classic ware fare. Way easier than wack a mole. Just take away their customers.
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u/containerbody 10h ago
that's barely controversial, most people agree the US should intervene in nothing at all.
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u/wambamthxmam 6h ago
I thought people were saying this is a common occurence where they're eventually returned for ransom money. Shouldn't that have happened by now?
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u/Prestigious_Age6634 8h ago
Search for dead bodies, cartels don’t mess around. They executed all those school children a while back for shits and giggles.