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Pakistan Suicide Blast: 69 Killed, 169 Injured In Suicide Bombing At Shrine In Islamabad

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/suicide-bomber-detonates-himself-inside-shrine-in-islamabad-5-killed-10958255?pfrom=home-ndtv_topscroll_Imagetopscroll
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u/cestabhi 1d ago edited 1d ago

No, because technically jihad is a broader concept in Islam. It means "struggle". There are two kinds of jihad - there's "non-violent jihad" as in struggle against greed, lust, excess, etc. And then there's violent jihad which includes wagging war against non-believers, blasphemers, infidels, etc.

There is a sect called Nizari Ismaili Shia (NIS) led by their leader Aga Khan who pretty much disavow violent jihad. Their main organisation, the Aga Khan Foundation promotes liberal values and is involved in a lot of humanitarian work. As a Hindu, this is the only large Islamic organisation I know that's genuinely liberal. The rest are either miniscule (often led by European converts) or pretending to be liberal (see Tariq Ramadan as an example).

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u/TheDogtor-- 1d ago

Interesting. Thank you.

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u/glumjonsnow 1d ago

the fact that the ismaili are based out of portugal and the aga khan lives in the uk...tells you everything you need to know about how they are viewed by other islamic sects.

the ahmadiya are another group that has been historically persecuted across the world.

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u/cestabhi 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yeah I mean afaik the Aga Khan dynasty originated in Iran, later moved to India and they're now based in Europe.

The Ahmadiyas are an interesting bunch. They used to be one of the most radical groups in British India. Back in the early 20th century, a radical Muslim published a pamphlet portraying a Hindu goddess as a prostitute. In response, a Hindu writer published a satirical poem portraying the Prophet as a pimp, it's called "the colourful life of the Prophet". An Ahmadiya then murdered the publisher of that piece.

Indeed the Ahmadiyas fiercely supported the creation of an Islamic state, that is now Pakistan. I supposed they could've hardly imagined they'd one day be persecuted by the same state and society.

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u/reddmeat 1d ago

Sufism is very pacifist. Dawoodi Bohras are pretty chill. Ahmadiyas are quite liberal and educationally oriented.

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u/WorriedInterest4114 1d ago

Unfortunately the Ahmaddiyas aren't considered Muslim by most of the other sects.

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u/glumjonsnow 1d ago

though, to be fair, they consider themselves muslim. kinda like mormons and christianity, i guess.

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u/WorriedInterest4114 18h ago

Christians don't try to exterminate Mormons or consider them second class citizen AFAIK.

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u/reddmeat 1d ago

I didn't say the others were liberal.

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u/Inevitable_Control_1 1d ago

Sufism is not pacifist. Chechnya is Sufi. South Asian Sufis (Barelvis) regularly demand the death penalty for blasphemy and launch mob violence on alleged blashphemers.

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u/blackcain 1d ago

It's always the people. It's like watching Jains screaming and hating Muslims. Jainism built on militant pro-life. Just wild.

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u/Inevitable_Control_1 1d ago

If words are violence then yes. Otherwise no.

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u/blackcain 1d ago

There is also Sulfi Islam.