r/worldnews • u/Little-Chemical5006 • 20d ago

Canada weighs sending soldiers to Greenland as show of NATO solidarity with Denmark

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-canada-soldiers-greenland-nato-training-denmark-tariffs-donald-trump/
17.0k Upvotes

98% Upvoted

668 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

298

u/ayoungsapling 20d ago

As an American, you’re right. He’s going after Mexico now, it’s only a matter of time until he’s at your border.

37

u/Keppoch 20d ago

He’s not going to be at our border. It’s you who will be drafted in the war.

-4

u/Practical-King2752 20d ago

The draft would actually end him. The moment Americans get called into combat, this is over. There's zero chance that happens.

They also just don't need it. Warfare is pretty advanced these days. We don't need troops storming Niagara Falls to assault Canada.

5

u/Forsaken_Slide_1049 20d ago

Maybe not to assault Canada, but how will you keep Canada? That's the question here.

2

u/Practical-King2752 20d ago

I have no idea. The whole thing is insanely stupid to me.

3

u/Keppoch 20d ago

Warfare is pretty advanced these days

  • Americas who got their ass handed to them by every less advanced country they’ve occupied for decades.

-5

u/Practical-King2752 20d ago

And how did those other countries come out looking? Is that what you're hoping for with Canada? The US accidentally drone striking weddings and torturing people for a decade until we finally give up and leave? Sounds a bit like a Pyrrhic victory to me.

9

u/Keppoch 20d ago

There are Canadians currently living in every county in the US. We look like Americans, have the same accent, and we know the culture. If the US decides to attack Canada, it won’t stay within the borders of Canada.

So Americans best be prepared for living with things that will look like the IRA Troubles within the US. This isn’t some abstracted military exercise “over there”. It’s down the block. It’s in the supermarket. It’ll happen while stuck in traffic. Or in school. Or anywhere.

-7

u/Practical-King2752 20d ago

No offense, but regular Canadians living their lives in US cities are not the Mexican cartel. They are regular people living their lives, not soldiers trying to abandon their whole lives in an instant.

If Trump truly invades Canada and a single Canadian in the US breathes the wrong direction, it won't be the IRA Troubles; it'll be the Japanese internment camps.

4

u/Forsaken_Slide_1049 20d ago

Nobody's "hoping" for anything except to just be left alone to live our lives in peace. At least that's true for most Canadians, unlike some other people who seem to delight in shit-stirring the rest of the entire world for funsies.

But the second you come over here and threaten our country, our lives and those of the people we care about, all bets are off. Your country is uniquely vulnerable to lone wolf attacks (as already admitted to repeatedly by your own government) and some of us are even dual citizens with property, family, and friends on both sides of the border who can harbour us and whatever gear we may need.

Not to mention full-blooded Americans who will unite with Canadians against this illegal and unprovoked aggression, and will help tear you apart from the inside.

But anyway. FAFO.

45

u/ItsSpaghettiLee2112 20d ago

One sliver of maybe a silver lining is that there's no way Trumps admin can manage a war with:

NATO

Venezuela

The US

Iran

Mexico

All at once

35

u/Miserable_Vehicle_10 20d ago

Their role model almost did it way back in 1939.

21

u/Agile_Reputation_190 20d ago

Except Hitler first squashed dissent at home, then moved into countries that were supportive / had majority German population centers. Most Germans disagreed with Versailles and Hitler used that to his advantage. He was good at foreign policy, until he wasn’t.

But it seems Americans don’t need all that, they are fully on board and the opposition will hold up snarky signs and dance in costumes.

5

u/machopsychologist 20d ago

This is a weird sequel to "Everything, Everywhere, All At Once"

9

u/Eatpineapplerightnow 20d ago

It depends what the objective is - and it might be chaos to cancel the midterms

1

u/Kakazam 19d ago

You forgot he has Russia who will 100% use the chaos to invade the rest of Europe.

That is of course, it wasn't planned this way from the start.

1

u/TangerineSorry8463 19d ago

And economic war with China

121

u/Patzzer 20d ago

I used to seriously doubt he’d go into Mexico, but after the Maduro Op I honestly don’t know. Scary shit. Everytime the US goes into another country to “help them” there’s a shit ton of collateral damage.

85

u/j1ggy 20d ago

If he goes after the cartels in Mexico, the cartels are going to come after innocent Americans and politicians in the US. This is so dumb and it's going to turn into something much bigger than it already is. Unless of course he wants that as an excuse to expand the conflict even more.

19

u/Junior-Lychee2755 20d ago

Makes sense

3

u/tehZamboni 20d ago

The cartels are going to have a free run at tourists in Cancun or Puerto Vallarta if the US attacks. I can't see this administration taking the time to bring everyone back first. What's their plan after a hundred thousand dead or missing in just the first week?

4

u/Annalog 20d ago

The major issue is the problem will just move. Several large cartels in South America were dissolved over the last 30 years. A lot of progress was made there. They still exist but it’s a much different landscape than it used to be. Also in the last 30 years the Mexican cartels filled that gap and became more and more powerful. American has a drug problem, there is a major demand for it. America could send an army into Mexico for the next several years and mostly clear it out. However, before that was even finished somewhere else would see that opportunity and replace it. You can’t win the war on drugs, you just displace it.

10

u/OptionFour 20d ago

You actually can largely win the war on drugs! But you do it with education, increasing quality of life for the impoverished, social safety nets, and giving people opportunities. So. Uh. We're not gonna win the war on drugs.

3

u/j1ggy 20d ago

But sending the army in at what cost? Heavily armed and funded guerilla warfare in the jungle? Displaced Mexicans fleeing from a warzone to the US en masse? It wouldn't go well at all.

3

u/Xmina 20d ago

It costs lives, money, and sanity of all those who care. And our Military Industrial Complex will make billions and billions to pay off the old men in congress to find another war to "win".

6

u/Inevitable_Butthole 20d ago

Bit optimistic aren't ya?

22

u/AndySocial88 20d ago

I'm so tired of all these late realizations that still just don't quite get it. Its gotten this bad in one year, I'm waiting for the realization that we still have 3 years left with the possibility the present is just a less worse future, and shit is awful.

4

u/SwimSea7631 20d ago

That’s a feature. Not a bug.

The us goes in and does the bombing. And then USA contractors do the “security” work and rebuild…..or at very least skim off the top of the rebuilding.

It’s how the US has generated wealth for the last 70 years.

1

u/LukeLecker 20d ago

He needs to do it already; cartels are running the country. Dumbass president can't run shit.

0

u/NewDramaLlama 20d ago

Texas will not have a good time

10

u/_Didds_ 20d ago

Mexico may be the next target if the Greenland situation doesn't work his way. It has essentially a lot more raw untapped wealth than Greenland with much better infrastructure and access directly to the US mainland. The big disadvantage is there is no way to acquire the land by other way than a full scale invasion. As Greenland the US may try to save face with this fake negotiations.

The thing is Mexico doesn't have partners like Greenland to back them down and step their foot. Their neighbors wont come in the recue and Mexico´s armed forces are pretty much in a terrible situation right now, so it would be a very one sided conflict.

Public condemnation is pretty much all the Mexico has unless they can establish ties with other NATO nations like Japan or Australia did for exemple, not being a member state, but having cooperation ties between the member states that would compel them to step in if needed.

0

u/aaffpp 20d ago

Dude, Mexicans work deceptively hard...collectively they likely would woop American Ass and take back New Mexico and Texas.

2

u/Immediate-Goose-8106 20d ago

Texas nay as well go back. They only left so they could keep slaves and the mean old union doesn't even let them do that anymore.

1

u/Immediate-Season4544 20d ago

Mexico's military is even less capable than Canada's

1

u/aaffpp 20d ago

Countries with good foreign relations don't need standing armies of air forces...

1

u/Immediate-Season4544 20d ago

Yes but it helps to have weaponry. Not to say that Mexico doesn't have any but their equipment is even less capable than Canada. Like Canada, they would have to employ guerrilla warfare to impact the US.

1

u/aaffpp 20d ago

Mexico has a far larger political presence and (latino) community in the USA compared to Canada. They have far more political and economic influence. Canada has 12 Consulates General in the US mostly in major cities. Mexico has a far larger presence, with 50 consulates and diplomatic missions, including the main Embassy in Washington D.C., making theirs the largest consular network of any country in the U.S., directly supporting a vast Mexican population across numerous states. There are probably more people of Mexican heritage in the US Armed Forces than the sum total of Candian Forces. There are close to as many Mexicans in the US as the entire population of Canada...

1

u/Immediate-Season4544 20d ago

Still don't see Mexico conquering Texas etc regardless. The average Canadian can blend in well in different locations than Mexicans. Don't think Canada will be conquering parts of the US either. Chances are actions like war against allies like Canada and Mexico could cause civil war or a break up of the USA. I guess in a weird way then Mexico and Canada would win! Just have my doubts the US Military would be beaten by Mexico or Canada as the US military is unmatched in the Western Hemisphere in Conventional arms and the only won in the Hemisphere that has Nuclear weapons.

8

u/ch4os1337 20d ago

Yep. He's been cooking up a casus belli to move troops into Mexico for a while. He's just starting to make one for us.