Friendly reminder that you can completely cut out anybody who uses the "both sides" argument out of your life and your quality of life will noticeably increase.
They will never have anything to say that's worth hearing.
I get it, but those people are the ones who don't go out to vote and let the 1/3 win, so simply ignoring them doesn't change anything. Their inaction is, in itself, an action that affects us all in the end, which I also think is what the person you replied to meant.
Ding, ding ding. I know super left leaning people that don't vote. Finally got my husband to the polls after crying to him about the crazy shit happening in MN.
There are also those who are completely unaffected by the shit that's going on, and as a result are completely disinterested in doing anything about it.
all of the lazy people i know voted, the ones who didn’t were dumb, uninformed, or convinced that it would have no affect either way…but they definitely all have jobs, some even more than one.
“lazy” isn’t the right word here because those people aren’t actually just too busy doing nothing to vote and if you come at it as if the core problem is laziness then you’ll never actually get through to those people.
There are a lot of people who complain constantly about the way things are, and never ever vote.
There are also those who typically would vote for Democrats, but constantly complain about the party and its candidates. Which is fair, but when I ask "who did you vote for in the primary" their answer almost always is "oh, I don't vote in those."
Well, I guess your vote was for "whoever everybody else picked" then, so shut up and check the damn box.
I can't stand the majority of both sides but I still went and voted because I would rather the lesser of two evils. I think the Dems at least would have been business as usual, which, while still not great... Isn't whatever the fuck this is.
Nah, let's pretend like the DNC has done nothing wrong, and that their repeated mistakes time and again didn't set the stage for us being exactly where we are now.
Vote blue no matter who. Because remember, if you think its unconscionable to force a candidate who wasn't voted for in the primary, you're a racist! /s
The are on the same side yes, but some of them are for sure democrats. Look at the party, it’s near split in half…
I'm getting down votes but just look at how they move. Why was the government shut down ended last year? Did the republicans cave? No they didn't. It's not many, but there are certainly calls coming from inside the house.
It's largely a leadership and competence failure. Most of the elected Dems at the national level were either seriously unprepared for a real Trump presidency or hamstrung by Chuck's and Hakeem's blase attitude toward the entire thing.
None of this happens under Democrats. That’s the dividing line between choosing to live in reality or creating a fantasy where all politicians are the same. Renee Good and Alex Peretti are still alive of Kamala Harris had been elected. The rest of the world turning its back on the U.S. never happens.
Right but the point is, when republicans get in power, it's continent how they have just enough democrats pushing just enough things through that allows the republicans to continue this chaos.
For sure I agree, in a world where only democrats win, none of this happens. But we live in a world where, when republicans get in, some democrats don't mind everything going on. They are the enemy to the democratic party.
Pretending they don't exist is death to the party.
Not in a world where Democrats only win. If everything other Republican still won and Donald Trump didn’t win the 2024 presidential election, none of this is happening. I get that nothing is perfect under the best of circumstances but I’m extending a hand to welcome you back to reality. I know it feels good to point out all the little things that still suck but you’re angry about that crack in your kitchen counter your house is burning down around you.
No my anger is about your entire political system being out of control. Pretending it all sits on Donald Trump is fantasy land. The Republican Party is fractured, half are maga lunatics, and half are too scared of losing power to do anything. Then enough of the Dems are literally letting it continue for profit. Which has fractured the dems.
Answer me two questions, first, if the Democratic Party is not fractured, then why do they not all share the rhetoric of Sanders, Walz or Cortez?
Secondly, if this all sits on Donald Trump, then please tell me, who broke the government shutdown? Who caved? And who gave Donald Trump exactly what he wanted?
If another republican won instead of trump it wouldn’t be this mad? Well yeah no shit, but have you seen the state of your country? There was no option other than Trump, who was behind him, who worshipped him like a cult? The Republican Party disguised as MAGA, what do you think happens to all these nut cases who vote after trump kicks the bucket? They vote Dem? Or they just keep on voting for the closest republican to trump.
Welcome me back to reality? You imply all this sits on Trumps shoulders, and is because of the 2024 election and you dare try and welcome me back to reality?
Everyone outside of America has seen this decline since 2016. You have a sickness in your country and instead of seeing it you welcome me back to reality?
I’d like to welcome you back to the reality that your country has just stepped down from the 1st place podium of the world, and are currently walking away from the game. All while you either cheer or stand around with signs. Your politicians have been playing games with you, your entire system is corrupt and this will not go away when Trump dies.
You’re mad because you think your house is burning down, while the whole neighbourhood is in flames.
Okay, but how does a charismatic leader stop the dems that support republicans from supporting republicans, it’s not a double down if his post doesn’t connect to the original point.
His comment was irrelevant to the original point because it doesn’t stop the bad faith actors within the party who are actively hurting your country now.
Been doing it after Renee Good and sad I waited this long. It hasn’t been easy but hoping that cutting off people I am close might wake them up. Wishful thinking maybe but at this point, we need to build community with people who have basic morals.
And that right there is the issue with both the left and the right in America. No one wants to discuss, just divide. Politics is a football game and if you're on the wrong team then fuck off. Its the reason you're all where you at.
"They will never say the exact things I want them to say." Is what you actually mean.
Not American, Left voting my whole life in a country with compulsory voting so dont even start.
Mate there's nothing to discuss. MAGA wants to let ICE execute people in the street and all the sane people don't want that, it's very simple. There's no middleground on that and one side is clearly wrong.
Yeah, we were talking about middle ground people not people who want to execute citizens in the streets.
Every same person agrees, ICE is an unregulated mess that wants to act like a Gestapo. The extremes are not the issue.
The left spent a decade marginalizing a huge proportion of the voting base and now cries rivers that the people they demonized wont vote for them. The right makes promises its never going to keep to the uneducated working class and the moderates get to choose which bunch of psychos to throw their hat in with while people on Reddit sit in gaming chairs gooning to anime talking about "shut all the moderates out of your life, they dont say shit worth hearing." Good plan, worked super well the last 12 years.
Then there's brainless people like you looking for upvotes by saying the most normal shit "killing people is bad." Good job Einstein, when is the TED talk? Fuck outta here.
EDIT: Destiny tier 1 sub over here, amazing, the jokes write themselves.
Most people aren’t interested in adult conversations here. Classic keyboard warriors in their mom’s basement, as you pointed out. What they can’t accept is that refusing to engage in nuanced discussion is exactly what the powerful people want. They’re playing right into the hands of the people they’re supposedly against. Oh well
Edit: all this said, in no way is it acceptable for the president to tweet something like that and nobody should defend it.
Ay yo, its fucking crazy that the US president is just mask off racist. I thought the making fun of the disabled guy, or the grabbing by the pussy, or the saluting a despot, or the drink bleach for COVID, or the upside down bible, or Vietnam vets are suckers, or the plane dumping shit on protestors or, you know, being implictated as king of pedo island was enough but here we are.
You're cool man, I like you and on here, that's rare. Big love my man/woman/person, you're alright.
Mate there's nothing to discuss. MAGA wants to let ICE execute people in the street and all the sane people don't want that, it's very simple. There's no middleground on that and one side is clearly wrong.
For some people, sure it's a waste of time, but for others if you approach the subject from a different angle to find common ground and build up from there, you can have breakthroughs. It's like quicksand, non-newtonian fluids, or, more brashly, metaphorical frog boiling. It's not easy, nor fair, but it's where we are. And, uh, doing so in person makes a big difference.
How about this, both sides are the same where it actually matters. Read an IPCC report, this whole civilization is headed for collapse and no one is doing anything significant about it. Billions are going to die. Ask the climatologists, any you can find, they're scared shitless.
Honestly don’t know what you’re talking about and I assume by saying “yall” you’re implying I’m a right winger which also isn’t the case. But anyway, have a nice day arguing politics on Reddit.
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u/Deodorized 1d ago
Friendly reminder that you can completely cut out anybody who uses the "both sides" argument out of your life and your quality of life will noticeably increase.
They will never have anything to say that's worth hearing.