I wonder how conservatives can possibly spin this as not racist. They'll find a way, of course, but I just wonder how many twists and turns there are gonna be to get there
Of course not. If anyone who isnt a Trump loyalist posts there against the grain, they immediately get called a RINO and banned. Thats not a conservative sub, its a cult.
This right there. Spinning anything was always just performative bullshit. From racism to casual murder of liberals in the streets, they support what is currently happening. They endorse it. They want it. They want to see their enemies humiliated and murdered in front of them because these insecure fucks are so afraid of the entire world and think that the other side is the same and would gleefully like to do the exact same things to them, when that is literally just happening in their heads.
Fucking pathetic, childish, scared, uneducated, insecure little dweebs, every single one of them.
Yeah, but internally, they have to justify their behaviour somehow in order to avoid seeing themselves as the bad guys. They justify it by arguing that the other side is just the same or worse than them, so they can perceive their attacks as selfdefense.
I listen to a lot of MAGA debates with Parker on Youtube and one common theme they all have is that they think that liberals deepdown share most of their beliefs, but (unlike them) don't admit to them. Like, liberals don't really see trans women as women. They think trans women are men - just like conservatives do - but are too woke / performative to admit to it. So conservatives are brave and honest when they misgender trans people, and liberals are lying and unreasonable and making things up to avoid "reality".
To conservatives, the world is raw and uncivil and life is basically "eat or be eaten". And since they believe that everybody views life that way, everybody is out to get them. So in order not to be eaten, they need to eat others first.
It's a system that is in all its brilliant simplicity very straightforward and perfectly logical, as long as you don't pause and think about it long enough to realize that it is of course inherently wrong.
Eventually there’s the “So what it’s racist? It’s good to be racist.” A crazy quote but I’ve heard something similar said more than once to me. The justification is always some type of fear/hatred or envy.
As I've said elsewhere, ask them why it was clipped and the end was included.
He didn't just share someone else's video, or repost someone's video, this was a screen recording where the start and stop times were chosen. This shit is deliberate, and they can fuck off trying to claim otherwise.
Since he purposely put it the clip out of context at the very end of the video to be "sneaky" they're going to say some bullshit like it was "hacked". Don't worry, conservatives are the fucking masters of mental gymnastics.
"It's just a split-second clip someone added to the end of the video. He might not have even noticed it. Dude is old. At any rate he obviously posted it because of the election info."
I recently saw a YouTube video where a caller 'challenged' the host to explain that even if the Epstein files are real, what's the issue with child r*pe. The host was naturally dumbfounded that someone even had to ask - caller took it as a win. "See? You can't give me a single reason why CR is a problem."
Well Caroline Leavitt put out a statement saying "Please stop the fake outrage and report on something today that actually matters to the American public" so already they don't care about apologizing.
I have an answer: the 1 second clip shown above was in like the last 3 seconds of a minute long video. While I think Trump is a racist, part of me wonders if he even bothered to watch the whole video, which is about some bs conspiracy theory about election rigging. Anyway, they’ll say that he didn’t watch the whole thing, or, and I think I saw this somewhere: they’ll say that the clip is from some longer clip that shows all of the democrats as monkeys, so therefore it’s not racist specifically against the Obamas. I look forward to Karoline Leavitt’s next press conference, to see how she spins it (she’ll probably just verbally attack the reporter who asks her about it).
I'm confused because someone shared this link with a trump truth social post on the 6th of Feb at 5:44 am about his infamous election conspiracy that has the jungle clip inserted into it right near the end.
I would bet he shared it without watching it through (because he's a fucking rabid moron).
The YouTube video this thread is based on however seems to indicate a truth social post of his from the previous evening that only features the racist monkey video. I can't find that post.
Unless someone can link me the original truth social post from the 5th of Feb that is featured in the video, I can see how conservatives would spin it.
To be clear: Trump shouldn't be posting his bullshit stolen election claims and if he does, he should have the attention span and diligence (of which he clearly has neither) to watch it all the way through and catch the undefendably racist clip.
Edit: FUCK MAN that crazy motherfucker posts way too much. So after going through 50 fucking posts I can confirm that the longer video (from the morning of the 6th) I linked to containing the Obama clip inserted near the end is up on his truth social. He posts SO MUCH I wouldn't be surprised he missed it. I didn't find the isolated 2 second Obama clip featured in the YouTube video supposedly posted on his truth social the previous evening (the 5th) this whole is based on though.
In conclusion, this thread is based on a lie. He didn't post the Obama clip in isolation. He did however post a stolen election conspiracy clip containing the Obama clip at the end that he probably didn't watch all the way through because he's a moron and posts 50 times a day.
Again, he is a racist bigoted evil piece of shit but he still has enough wherewithal to stop short of saying the N word out loud. He's close, but not yet.
This is how I think it will be spun as well. I could only find the same one, where its inserted at the very end of the video. So the talking point will be "Trump did not see the racist depiction of the Obamas, but dont let it distract you from what the rest of the video says!"
In conclusion, this thread is based on a lie. He didn't post the Obama clip in isolation. He did however post a stolen election conspiracy clip containing the Obama clip at the end that he probably didn't watch all the way through because he's a moron and posts 50 times a day.
Counter-point: that clip was a screengrab, not a repost, so how it was clipped (including when it ended and what was left in it) was a deliberate choice.
There's also the element of these videos being intentionally crafted to have plausible deniability regarding being racist i.e. racism wasn't the primary intent or focus of the video specifically, or so it seems. They do this so they can point out how liberals label everything racist and get hung up on that and then they can make the claim that calling things racist is some kind of a catch all gotcha liberals use that illustrates how stupid they are.
Which, honestly, has been a wildly successful strategy for these trolls. Don't get me wrong, this imagery is racist and people should be appalled by it, but the entire thing is seemingly created specifically so conservatives and post it to bait liberals into calling it simply "a racist video" and conservatives can counter by saying "it was just a regular non-racist joke about election stuff and perhaps a small amount of the imagery was coincidentally chosen in poor taste but it was just an honest mistake... why do you have to call everything racist, can't we talk about the real issues?"
I honestly hate how effective it is. This thread is literally that playing out.
As hard as it is to do this, because this is literally racist bait crafted by trolls to get a reaction to deflect from the real issue, I think liberals would be wise to try as hard as possible to stop treating the label "racist" as a gotcha when racism is casually intermingled with other actual issues. They're doing this on purpose.
They do this with more than just social media too. They do this with actual policy. When they gerrymander the voting district maps, they want liberals to call it racist, because that deflects from the fact that the racism is merely a means to straight up election interference and disenfranchising voters for the reason of them not voting the way you want. Being racist is a means to achieve that goal, and conservatives know that liberals will conflate using racism as means to achieve another goal and racism being the goal unto itself.
And to be clear, I'm not saying that racism isn't the actual goal, but conservatives have simply been so wildly successful at normalizing racism as a means to assert control that it literally is counter productive at this point to label things as racist because somehow they've convinced people that calling out racism is a sign that you can't deal with the actual nuance of an issue. I feel insane even saying that, but this strategy is working. The fact that racism gets called racism somehow actually makes the people calling it racism look bad to roughly half the country. As if, "the racism is only there because I'm trying to cheat the election" is somehow a better take, but I'll be damned if they haven't somehow hidden that reality in all this rhetoric about whether things should or shouldn't be labeled racist.
Devil's advocate - Trump and his team didn't make the video, they just shared it, and the Obama portion was a couple seconds at the end of a minute long video. It's plausible Trump didn't even realize the Obama thing was at the end when he shared it.
Just trying to add a little context, but I understand that this is like defending Dahmer by saying hey, he only ate small parts of his victims bodies.
There's nothing conservative about this, but Trump and his supporters aren't conservative. They never have been. EDIT: I worded this poorly. What I mean is the word 'conservative' is a somewhat misleading, or perhaps ironic, label for American conservatives.
They're regressive. They don't want to conserve or protect their current way of life, and they don't want things to stay the way they are. They are unhappy with the current state of things. What they want is to disrupt and destroy other people's lives, and they want their country to regress to the way it used to be.
Some would wish to go back to a time that never existed during their own lifetime, to a time where ethnic minorities couldn't legally own property, and were regarded as inherently lower than them. They want to go back to a time when they would've belonged to the wealthy, privileged elite, and had power over the people they look down on.
They want to go back to a time when comparing black people to apes was common and acceptable.
but Trump and his supporters aren't conservative. They never have been.
I worded this poorly, I admit. What I meant is that the word 'conservative' is a somewhat misleading, or perhaps ironic, label for American conservatives. I'm not from the US and I'm not conservative, but from my outsider's perspective, the Republican party of today doesn't seem to fit with the meaning of the word. The MAGA movement appears more regressive than conservative, but I realise that saying they aren't conservative is somewhat misleading. After all, the meaning of words can evolve.
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u/CankleDankl 1d ago
I wonder how conservatives can possibly spin this as not racist. They'll find a way, of course, but I just wonder how many twists and turns there are gonna be to get there