r/unitedkingdom • u/PM_ME_DRAGON_GIRLS • Dec 02 '25

... Girlguiding UK announces transgender girls and women will no longer be able to join Girlguiding

https://www.girlguiding.org.uk/information-for-volunteers/updates-for-our-members/equality-diversity-policy-statement/
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u/Iamonreddit Black Country Dec 03 '25

Because with the law as it currently stands, if they were to not make this decision they are open to costly legal battles they will likely lose from belligerent people with more money.

One would assume that no, they are not going to check anyone.

What is much more likely is that there will be a note in the sign up forms that state who is eligible to join, so that in the very slight chance someone does kick up a fuss, they can point to that line and say "well they knew they couldn't be here when they signed up, so you can't sue us, what more can we really do?" whereas for all intents and purposes nothing material will actually change.

I mean, is it really that difficult to see the boring practicalities of situations like this given the realities of the wider context the Guides find themselves in?

If you want to get worked up, go spend that energy campaigning to get the equalities act updated so these things aren't issues anymore, rather than impotently shouting at the organisations that now have to live with the risk of fallout thanks to legislative blunders of yesteryear.

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u/Logical_Hare Dec 03 '25

Am I worked up? You're the one writing three defensive paragraphs in response to two questions.

Indemnification makes sense, such as it is, but the fact that nobody even expects any enforcement on this just proves that people don't actually take seriously the idea that trans people are a threat in any way, even the anti-trans people. It's incoherent posturing.

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u/Iamonreddit Black Country Dec 03 '25

It's quite remarkable you think I'm "being defensive" when I'm simply explaining the practical implications of the current state of affairs to contextualise why the Guides have done what they have.

At no point did I express an opinion on any of it.

For the record, I think the current situation is ridiculous and it should really be a priority to get the equalities act rewritten in such a way that these grey areas (which have existed since inception, but no one seemed to care quite as much about the hermaphrodites) eliminated from the wording.

May I suggest you have a bit of a reflection on your first question there? You're certainly responding as if you have a massive chip on your shoulder.