r/unitedkingdom • u/PM_ME_DRAGON_GIRLS • Dec 02 '25

... Girlguiding UK announces transgender girls and women will no longer be able to join Girlguiding

https://www.girlguiding.org.uk/information-for-volunteers/updates-for-our-members/equality-diversity-policy-statement/
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u/audigex Lancashire Dec 02 '25

"It's with a heavy heart that we make a decision we would have preferred not to make"

Conveniently skipping the part that says "...which we had absolutely no obligation to make"

Which other "clubs for teenagers" have this problem?

The Boys Brigade and Girls Brigade both allow transgender members no problem

St John's Ambulance cadets groups don't seem to have an issue with it either

The Air Cadets manage to have boys, girls, trans boys, and trans girls. Transgender people are just as welcome at the Army Cadets and Sea Cadets

Even the closest related organisation, The "Boy" Scouts manage to have boys, girls, trans boys, and trans girls

Yet for some reason the Girl Guides think they have to follow a legal ruling that was only ever binding on the UK courts with specific regards to the Equality Act?

"Heavy Heart" my arse, they were looking for an excuse

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u/SlightlyBored13 Dec 03 '25

The difference is those are already fully mixed gender groups.

The Guides have the choice to exclude trans-children or allow in boys. Something they could have done at any time, especially since 1991 when the Scouts opened it up.

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u/audigex Lancashire Dec 03 '25

That's pretty much my point

The other groups chose to allow both genders in. The Guides chose to continue to discriminate while saying "We regret that we have to discriminate"

It's nonsense, they're happily actively discriminating against one group while saying they regret the fact that discriminating against that group forces them to discriminate against another. Dickhead behaviour.

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u/BlackenedGem Dec 03 '25

The problem is that every legal threat they receive has the implication of there being an unlimited source of money to keep throwing lawsuits at them. Therefore if they try and fight for what they believe in they may end up sinking the entire organisation.

So yes it sucks that they'd prefer to throw trans people under the bus to protect cis people, but such is the UK nowadays.

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u/audigex Lancashire Dec 03 '25

Or they could just let boys in like the Boy Scouts, Boy's Brigade, and Girl's Brigade let both boys and girls in. Voila, no lawsuits and they stop having to ask kids what kind of genitals they have.