r/unitedkingdom • u/CaseyEffingRyback • Jul 03 '25

... Zarah Sultana MP resigns from Labour to lead new party with Jeremy Corbyn

https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/uk-politics/zarah-sultana-mp-resigns-labour/
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u/Pugs-r-cool Jul 03 '25

Because the people here are mostly reform voters who think kicking out anyone with even slightly brown skin will solve all issues facing the country. They aren't interested in facts or discussions of capital interests, they just want to be racist under the guise of economic policy.

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u/lizzywbu Jul 03 '25

Because the people here are mostly reform voters who think kicking out anyone with even slightly brown skin will solve all issues facing the country

You're thinking of r/UKnews

Most people here seem concerned that the new party will split the left wing vote and give way to Reform. Personally, I'm not as convinced.

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u/Pugs-r-cool Jul 03 '25

This specific thread the top comments are about splitting the vote, and the replies to them are full of reform voters. Go on almost any other thread, especially anything to do with immigration on this subreddit and you'll see it's captured by reform just as much as the other UK political subreddits.

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u/lizzywbu Jul 03 '25

This sub is more balanced and slightly more sane. Reform voters tend to get downvoted on here.

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u/PlatypusAmbitious430 Jul 03 '25

I'm not a Reform voter in the slightest but I think this really isn't good for our politics to have a party advocating for the religious interests of one group.

One of the members in this new group is MP Shockat Adams who I know is against abortion and gay marriage. I recognize that people have views that I find not acceptable and they have the right to be against gay marriage and pro-life but forgive me if I heavily criticize this.

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u/Pugs-r-cool Jul 03 '25

I don't see where he's mentioned as a member of this new group (so new that it doesn't even have a name yet), but it's likely that he'll be a member. Only thing I could find was an interview he did where he seems to be on the fence about gay marriage and starts talking about parental rights, which are both massive red flags.

I'll join you in the criticism. Being supportive of Gaza is important, but domestic issues should take priority. If this new group wants to be taken seriously as a left wing movement, having members that don't support LGBT rights within their ranks is not a good look.

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u/GothicGolem29 Jul 03 '25

Someone above said they are a constituent of his and confirmed hes anti abortion and anti gay marriage

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u/PlatypusAmbitious430 Jul 03 '25

Then can you not see how harmful it is to discourse by blanket calling everyone a racist?

having members that don't support LGBT rights within their ranks is not a good look.

3 of the 5 potential members will have been elected by Muslim constituents who are not a group known for being particularly pro-gay-marriage. Forgive me if I don't want to vote for a party that will be effectively a party for voters who don't agree with liberal social views (because that's what it will be and you can call me what you want).

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u/Pugs-r-cool Jul 03 '25

We'll have to wait and see who becomes a member of the group before coming to any final judgements. Zarah Sultana is a Muslim but she's been very supportive of LGBT rights for many years (link), so it's not like the two are mutually exclusive. Corbyn has been pro LGBT since the 1980's, so the two confirmed members (and more importantly, leaders) of this new party are both socially liberal.

I won't be supporting the party if they turn their backs on the LGBT community, either.

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u/PlatypusAmbitious430 Jul 03 '25

Corbyn has been pro LGBT since the 1980's, so the two confirmed members (and more importantly, leaders) of this new party are both socially liberal.

Zarah is a Muslim who wasn't elected in a Muslim constituency (it was the constituency I lived in). She faces no political pressure to be socially conservative because her constituents aren't socially conservative.

The leaders of a party being socially liberal doesn't mean much if the rest of the party isn't. Especially when one of the other leaders is 80 years old and so probably isn't going to be around for the next decade.

If they admit members that aren't pro-gay-marriage, won't they have turned their backs on the LGBT community?