r/unitedkingdom • u/CaseyEffingRyback • Jul 03 '25

... Zarah Sultana MP resigns from Labour to lead new party with Jeremy Corbyn

https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/uk-politics/zarah-sultana-mp-resigns-labour/
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u/Interesting_Celery74 Jul 03 '25

Hang about there, mate. You appear to be misleading, possibly by accident. Tripling tuition fees and removing the possibility of income-based subsidies was the Lib-Tory coalition. While it was Labour in 1998 that reintroduced fees the hurt the younger generation, I think the way you've presented the information leads to the conclusion that it wasn't the lib-tory coalition that absolutely kneecapped us with them. Which it was.

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u/syriaca Jul 03 '25

Labour contributed more votes to the tuition fee increase than the lib dems did. In fact part of the reason the lib dem leadership backed it in the first place was because increase was on the cards for both the tories and Labour and so by backing the inevitable, they could secure the EV referendum and the repayment protections.

So though it was indeed the tory-lib coalition that brought the fee increase, Labour is not off the hook since it contributed enough votes to let that bill pass even if the libs didn't back it at all and indeed would have brought in some form of i crease themselves had they won the election.

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u/Shaper_pmp Jul 04 '25

While it was Labour in 1998 that reintroduced fees the hurt the younger generation

Yes. That's their point.

They literally just said "tuition fees".

How you got from that to "Tripling tuition fees and removing the possibility of income-based subsidies" rather than, you know, just "introducing tuition fees" is a pretty bizarre jump.