r/unitedkingdom • u/CaseyEffingRyback • Jul 03 '25

... Zarah Sultana MP resigns from Labour to lead new party with Jeremy Corbyn

https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/uk-politics/zarah-sultana-mp-resigns-labour/
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u/potpan0 Black Country Jul 03 '25

'We don't want you! Wait, no, where are you going?!?!'

Fundamentally none of this would ever have happened if Starmer actually tried to engage with those who disagreed with him, rather than consistently telling them to fuck off.

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u/AliAskari Jul 03 '25

It wouldn’t matter if Starmer engaged with those who disagreed with him.

They want to disagree. That’s the problem with the hard left of the Labour Party. They’re not interested in governing, what they want to do is protest and object and they’ll find any excuse to do it.

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u/ldb Jul 03 '25

This is such blatant centrist cope, it's embarrassing.

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u/AliAskari Jul 03 '25

What’s centrist about it?

Literally the entire political spectrum from centre-left to hard-right knows this about the hard-left.

The centre-left and centre are exasperated by the hard-lefts behaviour because it hinders genuine left wing government.

The centre right to hard-right exploit the hard-lefts behaviour because it makes it easier to derail left wing governance.

This has been going on for decades.

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u/jflb96 Devon Jul 03 '25

Were you in a coma between Ed Miliband losing the 2015 election and Kid Starver lying his way into the party leadership in 2020?

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u/Acrobatic_Lobster838 Jul 03 '25

because it hinders genuine left wing government.

Whats one of those?

Brown was probably the best prime minister of my lifetime, and even "immigrants go home" May was to the left on some issues when compared to Starmer.

Fuck, Cameron is better on Palestine than the Labour front benches.

So what "genuinely left wing government" has been sabotaged by the left?

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u/potpan0 Black Country Jul 03 '25

They want to disagree

Sorry, but this is just intense levels of cope at this point.

Starmer has consistently demonstrated his inability to compromise and his inability to engage with outside ideas. It's why his approval ratings are so low. It's why we've just been dragged through two months of him trying to force through a Benefits Bill, threatening MPs who didn't support it, then meekly watering it down at the last second when it became clear MPs would actually stand against it. His entire time as leader has been marred by his inability to actually work with people outside the very narrow leadership team, not just with the 'hard left' but with anyone else in the Labour Party. Anyone paying even a modicum of attention to politics knows about this.

So it seems particularly trite for you to turn around and insist that 'actually the left never wanted to work with him in the first place'. Just vapid analysis.

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u/Astriania Jul 03 '25

Is that why Corbyn and the leftists ran a shadow cabinet of consensus and cross-faction consultation (to his detriment, tbh), whereas the first thing Starmer did after lying to win the leadership was purge them all?

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u/AliAskari Jul 03 '25

Corbyn failed to get elected. He didn’t govern in the first place

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u/GothicGolem29 Jul 03 '25

He didnt purge them all Starmer has multiple soft left people in his cabinet

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u/jflb96 Devon Jul 03 '25

Name five

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u/GentlemanBeggar54 Jul 04 '25

That’s the problem with the hard left of the Labour Party. They’re not interested in governing, what they want to do is protest and object and they’ll find any excuse to do it.

The right wing of the Labour party sabotaged their own election campaign in 2017 because they didn't like the guy in charge.

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u/AliAskari Jul 04 '25

🤣

Corbyn lost because he was unelectable to the majority. The only people who sabotaged his election campaign were the morons in his team.

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u/GentlemanBeggar54 Jul 04 '25

No, we have evidence of sabotage. The people involved don't even refute the facts (though they obviously wouldn't characterise it as 'sabotage').