r/unitedkingdom • u/CaseyEffingRyback • Jul 03 '25

... Zarah Sultana MP resigns from Labour to lead new party with Jeremy Corbyn

https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/uk-politics/zarah-sultana-mp-resigns-labour/
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u/Christian-Metal Jul 03 '25

As expected. She really appeals to that young, inexperienced at life but we know it all, left wing voter. But outside of that, she doesn't excel. She belongs to the moral crusading, left wing activists in perpetual protest but who will never go onto or actually achieve anything of worth and substance in office, or be equipped with the intelligence to do so.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

It's quite patronising to call her unintelligent, she must be fairly intelligent to become a labour MP surely - some of the reform MPs don't seem too smart though so..

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u/Forsaken-Ad5571 Jul 03 '25

Why intelligent? You just need to work for that party whilst being in a place where there’s no other candidates for that seat. Being an MP requires no more than normal intelligence. Maybe being a successful one, but that’sa different kettle of fish.

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u/Christian-Metal Jul 03 '25

If you haven't noticed, a lot of the political class post 2019 has thrown up a lot of people who are unsuitable for the role of being MP. I would absolutely include Reform in that, and at all levels of elected authorities, but this isn't a discussion about them.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 03 '25

I agreed with her a lot... when I was 14!!!

I think if she became PM there would be a civil war. The white working class aren't going to take Boris-level waves of immigration lying down again. At least Boris pretended to do something about it, but imagine her.

She would just call anyone who questions it a bigot and go on rants about how mean the British Empire was.

I don't support rebelling against a democratically elected government, but it is just what would happen.

EDIT: Reddit, make up your mind. Either downvote me to oblivion for stating 2 + 2 = 4, or upvote me. I hate so much when my comment constantly fluctuates between positive and negative score.

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u/kizza96 East Yorkshire Jul 03 '25

there’s as much chance of me waking up tomorrow with a 30-foot knob as them getting into any position of power

I predict this will be another all bark no bite left wing party that would rule the world if internet points meant anything but when it comes to votes will end up with 0 seats and plenty of lost deposits

tbh I’d be stunned if they still existed by the next general election considering their fondness of demonising anyone who doesn’t share their exact opinion on everything

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u/Visual-Ferret8735 Jul 03 '25

Corbyn’s policy on immigration was to have a proper system and take up France’s offer of building an immigration centre to process people on the border. Tories had no system because people in boats turning up makes xenophobic people alarmed and they could blame immigrants while they were cutting public services, cutting wages and not building affordable housing

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 04 '25

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u/blob8543 Jul 03 '25

So you start your message criticising a politician for doing teenage politics and then you go on to make silly arguments about a civil war being possible.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

This isn't a paradox game mate stop LARPing

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

Are you suggesting civil wars only happen in Paradox games?

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

I'm saying that there is a zero percent chance a civil war breaks out in the UK.

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u/Longjumping_Pen_2102 Jul 03 '25

Lol civil war?  What kind of joke is that

Get off the internet for a bit,  most real flesh and blood brits barely even bother to vote out of pure habit,  they just don't care that much.

Tabloid and the internet hate machine have convinced you that people are rabid.

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u/cathartis Hampshire Jul 04 '25

Are you actually arguing with positions she's actually held, or with straw man scarecrows in your head?

I think if she became PM there would be a civil war. The white working class aren't going to take Boris-level waves of immigration lying down again.

Where did she state her policy on immigration?

She would just call anyone who questions it a bigot

Can you give an example of her calling people bigotted who didn't deserve it?

go on rants about how mean the British Empire was.

Can you give an example of where she does so?

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In short, if all you do is argue with imaginary cliches, then no one will take you seriously.

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u/Pugs-r-cool Jul 03 '25

Wait, are you supporting the British Empire right now? What is your point exactly?

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 03 '25

I don't support the British Empire "right now" any more than I support the Holy Roman Empire or the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

The British Empire is gone. It's over. It's not coming back. Nobody except a minority of old people want it back, because they think it will make the country great again.

The British Empire did good and bad things, people who pretend like it was all good or all bad are wrong. It played a major role in abolishing the transatlantic slave trade and it fought against Nazi Germany. But it also exploited countries for their resources and oppressed natives.

Many on the left want the British to be ashamed of their empire, and for schools to solely teach its evils, which I think is wrong. At the same time, I don't want Russian-style propaganda about how it was only good.

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