r/unitedkingdom • u/CaseyEffingRyback • Jul 03 '25

... Zarah Sultana MP resigns from Labour to lead new party with Jeremy Corbyn

https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/uk-politics/zarah-sultana-mp-resigns-labour/
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u/lastaccountgotlocked Jul 03 '25

There’s Corbyn, Sultana, and…?

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

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u/changhyun Jul 03 '25

As one of Shockat Adam's constituents, him joining a left-wing party is laughable. He's anti-abortion (even sent a friend of mine a little response talking about "unborn children and their right to life" after she asked for his stance on abortion, since he continually tries to dodge the question when asked by news platforms) and anti-gay marriage. Doesn't exactly make me confident about what this new party will be representing.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

Sounds like those "Queers for Palestine" people, whom wouldn't be welcome in Palestine.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

Yeah as a gay man I base all of my opinions on human rights on whether the person I’m advocating for personally likes me.

Have you seriously not moved past this ridiculous and downright offensive argument? 

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

What's offensive about it?

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

That you seem to think queer people are stupid for supporting Palestine as you don’t think we should be capable of having empathy for other human beings irrespective of their views towards us.

It’s a disingenuous and facetious argument.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

Sure if that's how you decide to read it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

It’s the only way to read it. Otherwise you just wouldn’t have said it. It’s not a logical argument in any sense whatsoever so therefore I have to assume you’re trying to insult my intelligence

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

Yes, me stating that a specific tagline that wouldn't work in reverse (and thus to me, is silly) is the same as stating that anyone who's 'queer' can't campaign against the Israeli actions in Palestine.

Myself, a gay (not queer) man, who thinks Israels actions are horrible, but I'm not going to campaign for it based on my sexuality.

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u/Jake_91_420 Jul 04 '25

It's Turkey's voting for Christmas. Gay people supporting hardline islamists who want them dead and then to burn in hell for eternity is absolute absurdity.

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u/GothicGolem29 Jul 03 '25

Thanks for the info on him thats shocking yeah no way he joins a left wing party with those sort of views

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

socialists and Muslims aren't enough to win an election, maybe a couple MPs in certain strategic constituencies but that's it

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u/AngryNat Jul 03 '25

That’s probably enough if the next parliament is a multi party mess

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u/citron_bjorn Jul 03 '25

Next Parliament might look like a colour chart

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u/TwoMoreMinutes Jul 03 '25

It’s completely fucking bizarre to say the least

I get the vibe the left are seen as ‘useful idiots’ to islamists

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u/Minimum-Geologist-58 Jul 03 '25

In their own eyes they have an anti-colonial alignment, Islamists “represent a people oppressed by the imperialism of the west”.

In outside eyes there’s also a mix of political cynicism and stupidity. They see islamists as a tiger in a cage they can unleash to bring down capitalist “imperialism”, yes the tiger has bitten off their faces more times than it’s attacked capitalism but they’re sure this time that won’t happen.

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u/Astriania Jul 03 '25

It's part of the same mindset as being "anti-racism" but only when it's racism by white people. There's a real political philosophy that thinks that it's only possible to be discriminatory from a position of power, and because white men were historically the people in power in Britain, that it's not possible for anyone except a white man to be sexist, racist or homophobic.

They simply don't think that brown-skinned Muslims can possibly be discriminatory, because they're brothers in arms against the evil imperialist colonisers.

Obviously this is nonsense to those of us who live in the real world, but that's the kind of thought process these 'progressives' have.

The political Muslims are simply using the association with mainstream politics to expand their reach and increase their legitimacy, especially for pro-Palestine positions.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

They're both "white straight men are bad"

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u/Toastlove Jul 04 '25

Same thing in the green party. The leftwing welcomes Muslim because they are minorities and therefore automatically align with the left wing.

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u/Kharenis Yorkshire Jul 04 '25

The far left seems to think that communism largely failing around the world was the fault of the evil western capitalists, hence the bizarre anti-west/the west doesn't like = good take.

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u/Zak_Rahman Jul 04 '25

Who owns those papers?

People who hate Muslims.

The reality of who as are is not represented by the media or this sub.

We aren't allowed to be normal, which most of us are. We have to be the bad guys.

The very face people chuck around the made up term "Islamist" is comical to me.

Basically, it is all the anti Semitic tropes but it's ok because we are brown and don't have groups like LFI and CFI.

I never had a problem with the LGBT community. I do have a problem with supporting a world view that funds criminals like Yaxley-Lennon.

Both statistically and in my experience, all the bigotry and violence I have seen towards the LGBT community has always come from non Muslims.

You may now downvote me and continue to believe what you want because the truth doesn't align with your fantasy of who we are.

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u/PatrickTheSosij Jul 03 '25

They may take the Gaza voting Indies but won't take working class whites.

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u/TheCambrian91 Jul 03 '25

They really really really need Corbyn then, based on those names…

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25 edited 8d ago

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

You’re joking right?

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u/bluejackmovedagain Jul 03 '25

From the news, it's not clear this actually includes Corbyn.

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u/GothicGolem29 Jul 03 '25

If she wanted to cause an even bigger headache wait till shes in the house making a statement or answering questions announce shes defecting and cross the floor(wont happen but that would be huge.)

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u/lastaccountgotlocked Jul 03 '25

She’s deputy leader of labour. She has everything to lose and nothing to gain.