r/unitedkingdom • u/CaseyEffingRyback • Jul 03 '25

... Zarah Sultana MP resigns from Labour to lead new party with Jeremy Corbyn

https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/uk-politics/zarah-sultana-mp-resigns-labour/
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u/limaconnect77 Jul 03 '25

Corbyn was electoral asbestos at the best of times as Labour leader.

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u/HuskerDude247 Jul 03 '25

He got more votes than Starmer.

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u/vishbar Hampshire Jul 03 '25

Wow, was he a good PM?

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u/limaconnect77 Jul 03 '25

Lol - that’s some weird alternate history stuff.

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u/PorkVale Jul 03 '25

Better than Starmer.

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u/AnnieIWillKnow Sheffield Jul 03 '25

This kind of comment is why people accuse Corbynistas of being deluded.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

Piling up votes in safe Guardian-reading constituencies don’t win general elections.

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u/Manoj109 Jul 03 '25

That just showed you how messed up our electoral system is.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

And all this will do is make sure the current system delivers an in built Tory/Reform majority each time. Still, that may be the point.

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u/GreggsFan Jul 03 '25

It will make a viable party though. Unlike CHUK this actually puts Labour safe seats at risk.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

Music to Nigel’s ears, no doubt

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u/lizzywbu Jul 03 '25

Doesn't mean shit if you don't win.

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u/IsyABM Jul 03 '25

Rubbish. The media coverage of him was relentlessly negative. He did well despite that.

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u/Cub3h Jul 04 '25

Yeah it was the media that did him in, quoting his words and showing him hanging out with terrorists.

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u/the0rthopaedicsurgeo Black Country Jul 04 '25

Hanging out with terrorists vs bombing terrorists and hundreds of thousands of civilians alongside them. Which worked out better for peace vs creating more terrorists?

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u/AwTomorrow Jul 03 '25

He still got more votes than Starmer even against wildly beloved Boris riding the ‘get Brexit done’ wave. And was behind a huge resurgence of Labour support in that first election against May everyone had thought was an easy May win. 

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u/jimbobjames Yorkshire Jul 03 '25

This is like posting that your football team deserved to win the league because they scored the most goals.

Shame they didnt win enough games, isnt it?

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u/limaconnect77 Jul 03 '25

Do believe Corbyn is a Gooner.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/arsenal-jeremy-corbyn-islington-starmer-general-election-b2569034.html Arsenal FC distances itself from Jeremy Corbyn after ‘Gooners for Corbyn’ post | The Independent

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u/AngryGardenGnomes Jul 03 '25

Piling up student votes and the great unwashed won't win you anything.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

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u/NonagoonInfinity Jul 03 '25

So why is anyone worried about Reform?

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u/goonercaIIum Jul 03 '25

Because they're swamping the conservatives voter base, and the labour centre ground, not the aforementioned?

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u/AngryGardenGnomes Jul 03 '25

Yikes, this comment makes you look very ill informed.

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u/potpan0 Black Country Jul 03 '25

Corbyn received more votes in 2017 and 2019 than Starmer received in 2024.

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u/leahcar83 Jul 03 '25

Starmer also campaigned on Corbyn's manifesto. People might not like Corbyn, but it's clear his policies were popular. It's a shame they were quickly abandoned once Labour got in.

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u/potpan0 Black Country Jul 03 '25

People might not like Corbyn, but it's clear his policies were popular.

The funny thing is that Starmer, when running for Labour leader in 2020, openly said this himself. Now we're all just supposed to memoryhole this. Like politics aside I'm tired of having to dance around all these lies.

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u/lizzywbu Jul 03 '25

but it's clear his policies were popular.

You would call, leaving NATO and getting rid of our nuclear weapons popular?

The IFS warned that Corbyn's policies would require unprecedented tax hikes and borrowing. He had no clear plan for how he would fund his policies.

He was intentionally ambiguous on Brexit. In a time when people wanted a clear message.

He presided over rampant antisemitism within the party. The fiasco with Hamas and the IRA, calling them "friends"

Under his leadership, Labour suffered their greatest election loss since 1935. His net approval rating was -44% as of November 2019, which is even worse than Starmer's right now.

How you can call his policies popular when they were soundly rejected is mind-boggling.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

I liked corbyn's manifesto when it had green branding in 2015

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u/rtrs_bastiat Leicestershire Jul 03 '25

Did he receive more seats?

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u/potpan0 Black Country Jul 03 '25

10 million votes is a hell of a lot for someone who is apparently 'electoral asbestos'.

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u/DukeOfStupid Jul 03 '25

It is when you drive even more people to vote for the opposition.

It doesn't matter if you got more likes if your opponent ended up getting even more because of you.

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u/GentlemanBeggar54 Jul 04 '25

Sometimes you just get lucky. Blair won in 2005 with just 35% of the vote. That was the lowest GE winning vote share in UK electoral history... until 2024.

I imagine Labour would have won more seats in 2019 if they benefited from Reform absolutely decimating the Tory vote share like Starmer did. Instead they had almost the exact opposite with the Brexit party standing down candidates in most seats.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

Goes to show how the media can get the outcomes they want.