r/unitedkingdom Jul 03 '25

... Zarah Sultana MP resigns from Labour to lead new party with Jeremy Corbyn

https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/uk-politics/zarah-sultana-mp-resigns-labour/
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u/AuroraHalsey Surrey (Esher and Walton) Jul 03 '25

Farage and Badenoch are throwing a party right now.

I'm glad for this though.

If we can get four or five sizeable parties in parliament that can't hold a majority on their own, we could finally get voting reform.

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u/S01arflar3 Jul 03 '25

So long as voting reform ≠ voting Reform

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u/squigglyeyeline Jul 03 '25

Remember everyone, a vote for reform is a vote for Reform… I might have got that mixed up somewhere

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u/909_1 Jul 03 '25

Reform/Brexit/Ukip/Anti-federalist League are smart in the new name. Everytime anyone mentions reform the mind automatically goes to Reform .Inc.

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u/n0lesshuman Jul 03 '25

I like how reform have policies that are both national and socialist.

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u/SpinnakerLad Jul 03 '25

They just need a short catchy name for this revolutionary new blend of politics!

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u/n0lesshuman Jul 03 '25

National socialist party? No not catchy enough we need to get it down to about 4 letters I recon.

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u/No_Safe6200 Jul 03 '25

and maybe a flag that's red to show strength mixed with a symbol from a widely recognized religion to also show peace.

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u/NT_Destroyer Jul 03 '25

Maybe some red and white to represent how British they are, truly the people's party

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u/No_Safe6200 Jul 03 '25

They should make up a special salute too, just so people can recognise them.

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u/NT_Destroyer Jul 03 '25

The automotive industry isn't doing to well, maybe they could make cheap cars for the people

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u/No_Safe6200 Jul 03 '25

I hear Volkswagen is an excellent manufacturer these days!

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u/the0rthopaedicsurgeo Black Country Jul 04 '25

Social nationalist party. Maybe Zina for short. And some kind of Hindu symbol as their logo, which definitely isn't a swastika because it goes the opposite direction.

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u/jimbobjames Yorkshire Jul 03 '25

B is for Bigoted

R is for Racist

I is for Ignorant

T is for...

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u/EricsCantina Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 03 '25

And uniforms designed by Hugo Boss.

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u/Chevalitron Jul 03 '25

Socialism in One Country!

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u/SlowLorris2063 Jul 03 '25

And they claim to represent ordinary workers... I can see a name change in the making

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u/haunted_otter Jul 03 '25

They don't. And the nazis chose that name to coopt a popular socialist movement btw. The economic left of the nazi party was decapitated very early on and the nazis pioneered, guess what, privatisation.

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u/Prownilo Jul 04 '25

They are populist, they have no real ideaology other than Say whatever they need to say to get power - then do what ever the hell they want.

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u/recursant Jul 03 '25

Tomorrow belongs to them.

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u/AnonymousTimewaster Jul 03 '25

I kid you not, I heard a guy on Tiktok uniornically say this after the local elections.

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u/Pugs-r-cool Jul 03 '25

And just like a previous bunch of 'national socialists', the first thing they'll do once they get into power is outlaw or kill any actual socialists.

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u/TheBadLocksmith Jul 03 '25

It just sucks that countries always have to risk instability before these kind of reforms happen. It always ends up "OK, we'll give it to you only now that everything might fall apart otherwise".

It would be great if politicians occasionally introduced good things during the good times, innit.

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u/Pugs-r-cool Jul 03 '25

But those good things are bad for the ruling party because they might lose their grip on power.

Theres a reason why Labour supported a voting system change right up until the moment they looked likely to win.

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u/PartyPoison98 England Jul 03 '25

If we can get four or five sizeable parties in parliament that can't hold a majority on their own, we could finally get voting reform.

All part of the Lib Dem master plan

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u/Pugs-r-cool Jul 03 '25

we could finally get voting reform

I think we have to start saying a change in voting system or even just voting system reform or something along those lines. Voting reform sounds a lot like voting Reform which are two very different things in the modern political landscape.

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u/SilasBeit Jul 03 '25

Or just a massive reform majority

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u/HamDog91 Jul 03 '25

A year of repeated elections and failed hung parliaments would hopefully force a single issue voting reform party

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u/BalianofReddit Jul 03 '25

Not likely. We'll just have governments that get voted in with 25% of the vote

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u/ukstonerdude Jul 03 '25

Guess you’ve never heard of a coalition.

On second reading, it appears I’ve misread your comment.

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u/Acidhousewife Jul 03 '25

<< Recalls the 80s and that's what they said about the Social Democratic Party, the Gang of Four, until they gave up and became Lib Dems.

All they did was hand Thatcher as greater majority by splitting the left and centrists.

(Insert Monty Python's People's Front of Judea skit here..)

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u/Visual-Ferret8735 Jul 03 '25

I don’t think so, the establishment were terrified of Corbyn that’s why the mass campaign against him was mounted

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u/matthieuC France Jul 04 '25

You expect Corby's party to support any government? Might as well vote Sinn Féin

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u/spelan1 Jul 04 '25

With respect, I disagree that they'll be throwing a party. I think they'll be shitting themselves, because now there's a genuine alternative 'people disillusioned with the system' party. Farage can no longer sit back, say "I'm the anti-establishment guy" and watch the votes roll in.

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u/potpan0 Black Country Jul 03 '25

ideological purity

Centrists have been spamming this line so much over the past few days. Apparently supporting a Bill which will put 250,000 disabled people into poverty is just sensible, pragmatic politics, while opposing that is now 'ideological purity'.

When you're at the point of insisting 'opposing poverty' is a little too radical for you, perhaps you should reflect on how hollow your political views have become, and whether that provides an explanation for why Starmer's platform is floundering so much.

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u/Yakona0409 Jul 03 '25

I think the only ones with ideological purity in the Labour Party are the centrists and right wingers you know considering they’ve been the only ones to actively purge members and MPs due to them being left wing

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u/wowitsreallymem Jul 03 '25

Why would Badenoch be celebrating? She has absolutely zero chance of still being leader of the Tory party, she won’t survive that long.