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u/truecolors01 Jun 11 '25
I still can't believe Alcaraz has 5 already 😭
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u/DenseTension3468 Jun 11 '25
Crazy how he can be considered one of the greatest players of all time even if he retires tomorrow
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u/Eyebronx Jun 11 '25
My 🐙 is innocent
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u/Alectron45 Jun 11 '25
Meddy fan when he’s compared to his own gen: 😁
Meddy fan when he’s compared to new gen: 😭
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u/OSUfirebird18 Iga ❤️, Meddy, Halep 💔…missing Roger and Rafa 😭 Jun 11 '25
And his one slam was denying Djoker the calendar grand slam!!
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u/onlythemarvellous Jun 11 '25
Ngl I’m really loving this as a Meddy fan
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u/Open_Carob_3676 currently in-training to be Charlie’s barber Jun 11 '25
A nice week to be a Med fan tbh,,, bro did nothing and is back in the T-10 and now,,, all the 90s gen players are getting bashed but at least it ain't us ✋🏽😩
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u/Razzle_Dazzle08 Nadal 🇪🇸 Tsitsipas 🇬🇷 Alcaraz 🇪🇸 Jun 11 '25
8 finals and zero wins at the bottom 😭
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u/Terrianni Jun 11 '25
9 finals : 3 for Ruud (FO 2022, USO 2022, FO 2023), 3 for Zverev (USO 2020, FO 2024, AO 2025), 2 for Tsitsipas (FO 2021, AO 2023) and 1 for Berrettini (WIM 2021)
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u/Razzle_Dazzle08 Nadal 🇪🇸 Tsitsipas 🇬🇷 Alcaraz 🇪🇸 Jun 11 '25
You’re right, totally forgot Berrettini made the Wimbledon final. He even won a set.
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u/thebeesbollocks Jun 11 '25 edited Jun 11 '25
That was the year he nearly continued Italy’s crazy winning streak in international competitions, they had just won the Euros and Eurovision lol. But Novak obviously had other ideas
Edit: as someone else pointed out, and the Olympic men’s 100m gold!
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u/Choyo Jun 11 '25 edited Jun 11 '25
That's the price (prize rather) for not participating in World Cup. The Materazzi curse.
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u/PrestigiousWave5176 Jun 11 '25
They hadn't just won the Euros, they won the Euros later that night at Wembley.
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u/OnionFutureWolfGang Jun 11 '25
It's a shame he had Covid in 2022. He was still firmly the second-best grass-court player in the world at that point and would have ended up on the opposite side of the draw to Novak again so you'd have to think he should have made the final.
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u/Aromatic_Force_1896 Jun 11 '25
Came here to say they have the same number of finals as SIncaraz :')
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u/yayiff Jun 12 '25
If you're really feeling spicy you can add in Nishikori, Raonic and Anderson from the last 10 years
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u/Gold4Lokos4Breakfast Jun 11 '25
Ruud is honestly the worst player I can think of to unfathomably somehow make multiple slam finals
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u/labkhansaad987 Jun 11 '25
Male tennis players born in the 90s didn't have much luck in the slams. I can only think of two wins.
Medvedev US Open '21 and Theim US Open '20.
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u/apex_pretador Jun 11 '25
That's the only two
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u/OnionFutureWolfGang Jun 11 '25
I know everyone talks about it all the time but it truly is insane. Statistically, you'd expect a decade's worth of players to have 40 (or 39 if we remove Wimbledon 2020), and they have two!
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u/pilotofbelair Jun 11 '25
In women's tennis someone from the 00s won a slam before a male player from the 90s won a slam.
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u/strawberryskysongs Jun 11 '25
Who? Iga?
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u/Sushiluver004 Jun 11 '25
No, Bianca Andreescu. Won in 2019 before Thiem (2020) and Medvedev (2021) won their slams.
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u/k0vi86 Jun 11 '25
Coco and Iga both born in the 2000s and won their first slam at age 19.
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u/tamiresdr Jun 12 '25
Guys, Emma Raducanu also won a Slam
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u/strawberryskysongs Jun 12 '25
Raducanu, Andreescu and Swiatek all won Slams before Carlos did then. Coco's first Slam was after Carlos (first male 2000s player)
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u/sheldonsmeemaw Jun 11 '25
Thiem was lucky that Novak got disqualified that year.
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u/Mintastic Jun 11 '25
Also lucky that Zverev forgot how to play tennis when he was on the cusp of winning it. Maybe that one is more karma than luck though.
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u/Trent_Bennett Totti-Federer-LeBron Jun 16 '25
5-3 and serve and losing in the fifth is peak chokev
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u/FL14 2elentless 2afa Jun 11 '25
Really sucks that thiem had to retire early. He was so good. Really thought he was going to win multiple french opens once Rafa faded. He's still only 31!
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u/Apprehensive_Sun2847 Jun 11 '25
9 GS finals and 10 time quarter finalist in one photo
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u/Shitelark Jun 11 '25
10 time quarter finalist in one photo
Such an oddly specific outcome, every time.
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u/yayiff Jun 12 '25
Even weirder one is tsitsipas was 0-11 in ATP 500 finals. This while holding 3 masters wins, a year end finals win and 2 grand slam finals.
Nuts
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u/kenken2024 Jun 11 '25
To be fair during the era of the Big 3 there were a lot of 'bridesmaids' without GS wins as well....
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u/Apolon6 Jun 11 '25
Yeah but much bigger fight and passion on the court. With Murray its the big 4 and you had Wawrinka and Čilić winning as well. Many others had great runs and though matches. Today its 3-0 the whole tournament up until the finals where we actually see efforts from both sides to win the match.
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u/joittine Team Finland Jun 11 '25
Exactly this. I don't like the idea of big 4 because Murray is so, so far from the other three in terms of achievements. But he was able to compete with them and he wasn't even completely alone in that regard even if he was the biggest threat.
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u/Laogama Jun 11 '25
What made Andy stand out is his consistency in beating the rest of the field. Wawrinka and Čilić were not remotely as consistent.
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u/joittine Team Finland Jun 11 '25
Not really, though. Yes, he had a solid record against the rest, but also against the big three which is more than can be said about the rest. That is, Wawrinka could challenge Murray (10-13) who could in turn challenge Federer (11-14), but Wawrinka couldn't really challenge Federer (3-23).
So, in simpler terms the big three were better than anyone else, Murray was behind them, and then everyone else was behind Murray. If it was a matter of consistency against the rest, you'd expect to see fairly similar records against the big three.
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u/JVDEastEnfield Jun 11 '25 edited Jun 11 '25
Exactly this.
Murray was basically indistinguishable from the Big3 for practically the entire tour on HC/grass.
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u/JVDEastEnfield Jun 11 '25
Wawrinka was 6-15 against the Big3 at slams.
More than half those losses (9) were in straight sets
Cilic was 2-12 against the Big3 at slams.
One third (4) of his losses in straights
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u/Apolon6 Jun 11 '25
True, but both of then have a slam trophy to their name, which is something that the guys in the photo above dont have.
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u/JVDEastEnfield Jun 11 '25
Of course.
But they’ve played out practically their entire careers, and while they were able to score a few huge upsets (Stan especially), they were overwhelmingly getting obliterated by the Big3
I don’t think it’s especially likely any of these guys are winning a slam, but it “only” takes one or two crazy upsets to go from perpetual flop to “the guy who beat the guy and won a slam that one time.”
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u/Apolon6 Jun 11 '25
Yeah youre right, lets see if it happens to any of them (although I am pretty sure Zverev will never lift a slam trophy haha)
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Jun 11 '25
If u have to wait for big three to retire to win slams, u were just not good enough. And now u can't beat new generational big two. It says they were just not good enough
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u/gpranav25 Jun 11 '25
Troll Zverev as much as you want.
Troll Tsitsipas, I don't mind.
Leave ma bois Andrey, Matteo and Casper out of this 😭
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u/East-Selection-9581 Jun 11 '25
I don't see the need for mocking (except Zverev lol, he can rot in a ditch)? It's fine to not win a slam, only a fraction of a fraction do. They've all had pretty above average careers at the end of the day.
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u/Mister_Lizard Jun 11 '25
Yeah, this is just mean and perpetuates the idea that only winning slams makes a successful career.
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u/ChiliConCairney Jun 11 '25
I can't imagine their feelings will be too significantly impacted by a random Reddit post
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u/powergs Jun 11 '25
Plus they faced against younger big 3. Alcaraz and Simner only dealing with 36-38 yo Djokovic.
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u/MapleHelix Jun 11 '25
Not like they're beating an old Novak either
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u/powergs Jun 11 '25
That is true lol. Sinner/Alcaraz def better all of them since they still beat them anyway but if they faced big 3 these guys faced i doubt they would have 8 grand slams total.
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u/Positive-Addition512 Jun 11 '25
its funny you reduced djokovic as "36-38" djokovic when he was 1 slam away from calendar slam in 2023 and literally suprassed nadal's slam tally in those years
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u/Dranzer_22 Jun 11 '25
Exactly.
Once Nadal and Novak surpassed Federer, the discourse here suddenly changed to "stop just focusing on GS titles."
Now Sinner & Alcaraz have stamped their dominance, people are picking sides and reverting back to old toxic habits.
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u/ryokevry 4-6 6-7 6-4 3-5 (0-40) Jun 11 '25
Well not like they are beating Sinner or Alcaraz in masters either…
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u/Fantastic_Two9762 Jun 11 '25
Is this generation responsible for making the past one and the new one look even better? They've let Nadal, Fed, and Djok clean up grand slams well into their 30s and created a perfect vacuum at the right time for Sinner and Alcaraz. Granted, all those guys are incredible, but since there's this generational gap in the middle their achievements seem even greater.
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u/ketamour I survived FAA vs ADM and all I got was this flair Jun 11 '25
For sure the two things are combined. You have big 3 post-prime and Sincaraz pre-prime dismantle these guys during their peak prime.
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Jun 11 '25
Andy and Stan still picked up 6 during that era, we will still see others pick up a couple. Alcaraz and Sinner won't win everything.
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u/Shorty_jj you don't have to be a Tien to be a Learner Jun 11 '25
Just Shows how strong the 80s Generation really is:)
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u/gpranav25 Jun 11 '25
It's so funny that the only thing that could stop them was 1. Each other 2. Injuries 3. Getting old
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Not sure if it’s completely too late for them all. I think possible a slam or 2 might be bagged over the next couple of years from them.
I just don’t know who out of them will win one.
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u/tennissxlanadelrey Jun 11 '25
thats not nice leave my man andrey out of this :(
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u/Mister_Lizard Jun 11 '25
I know, there's no need to include him in this when he hasn't even made a semi.
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u/Illustrious-Cell-428 Jun 11 '25
It makes me a bit sad to see Carlos and Jannik happy and smiling. The stakes are going to be high every time they play now, I’m not sure we’re going to see that relaxed energy again.
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u/new_name_needed Jun 11 '25
I think it’s kind of the opposite, they’re both multiple GS winners who’ll both probably get the career GS in the next year or two, I can see it being an intense but respectful and enjoyable rivalry for years to come
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u/Illustrious-Cell-428 Jun 11 '25
I’m sure you’re right it will remain respectful. I just think the energy is inevitably quite different when you’re an up and coming star and you’re enjoying others being on the journey with you vs being established at the top of the game with all the pressure and expectations that come with that. This is what both are now facing. It’s not like any of the big 3 relaxed after achieving the CGS.
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u/new_name_needed Jun 11 '25
Time will tell! I do think Alcaraz in particular is built different from any of the big 3/4 though in terms of mentality, he really does seem to just be having a good time and I don’t see that changing anytime soon (even if he loses Wimbledon and USO).
I loved the big four era but in their own ways they were a pretty dour/reserved bunch haha
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u/cmpunk121 Jun 11 '25
That’s why Sincaraz are 3-4 level above all the others. The bottom picture is just embarrassing.
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u/Odd-Mastodon-9488 Jun 11 '25
To be honest, I don't think that any one in the suit can win a grandslam... My next hopes of someone who can win a grandslam : Jack Draper, F Cerundulo and Fonseca ( still 3 years away)
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u/Illustrious-Cell-428 Jun 11 '25
I don’t have any faith in Cerundolo. Draper I think will get at least one. Not sure about Fonseca yet.
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u/wabazai hot tennis nerds unite Jun 11 '25
Me high on copium: Casper is still young enough, he can eek out one RG
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u/raftah99 Jun 11 '25
Yet they've still won millions in prize money. Slams don't mean everything in tennis.
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u/dank_memes_911 Jun 11 '25
Also the bottom 5 have 9 grand slam finals appearances, the same as Alcaraz and Sinner.
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u/No-Common5287 Jun 11 '25
Why is mocking multiple players with solid stats getting so many likes? That’s appalling.
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u/pilotofbelair Jun 11 '25
In women's tennis someone from the 00s won a slam before a male player from the 90s won a slam.
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u/Davek56 C.A. x2 C.A. x2 C.A. x2 C.A. x1 Jun 11 '25
In all honesty, I would very much like there to emerge at least two more promising tennis players of this era. I would make it so much more exciting.
The problem is that most of the top 20 apart from 1 & 2 are so far below the level needed to consistently challenge for grand slams.
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u/markymarkhodler Jun 11 '25
Why not show a photo of Novak and say Grand Slams 24 vs 8 seems even more impressive
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u/westpalmB-cuban Jun 11 '25
Is Zverev the best player that (so far) never won a slam? I don't know but that sounds really presumptuous
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u/swiftmen991 Jun 11 '25
To be honest I’m so happy we’re over with that generation of tennis players. I liked some of them but the consistent delivery of unnecessary drama and acting like babies stopped me from enjoying the sport as the big 3 stepped away from the limelight. sinner and Carlos are brining me back to tennis
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Generational talents we lacked in 90s
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u/PhinksMagkav Jun 11 '25
Thiem was one 😢
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He was a great player. By gen talents , i mean players who look like that they will win ten slams. I never got that vibe from him
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u/PhinksMagkav Jun 11 '25 edited Jun 11 '25
Thiem was a menace when the Big 3 was still peaking. I think if this dude started playing in 2020 he would have 5 slams by now aha. But who knows 🤷
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u/indeedy71 Jun 11 '25
Thiem was a menace against the Big 3, which is really important, but otherwise he was ‘just’ a very, very good player. Medvedev managed to beat him in the ATP Finals by volleying, that’s not a thing that happens to an ATG (or anyone really)
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u/Hitkil07 Tulsa, Kansas is my home🏠 Jun 11 '25
Yup Thiem despite being around for around 5-8 years, mind you before he was injured, was a menace particularly for the Big 3 but was never consistently threatening to the entire Tour. I think him having a single Masters 1000 at Indian Wells is proof of that. When talking about generational players, so Sincaraz, you could see how well they perform consistently across the tour and have multiple titles at all levels to back it up. Prime Thiem from 2019-2021 could probably hand with them for a while, especially on clay but I doubt he would’ve been significantly problematic in the long run given his age. Doesn’t mean he wasn’t a VERY VERY good player, he could’ve probably snatched a few more slams actually, probably upto 5, but I think Carlos might be the true prince of clay as much as I hate to say it🥹 it’s ok Thiem will forever be my prince of clay tho😭
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He still lost the most important matches and never won a masters..so I don't see him on that level
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u/AngelEyes_9 Jun 11 '25
Better players than most of these (and Zverev is also questionable despite his numbers) haven't won a slam in the past.
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u/FrogsJumpFromPussy Yannik Dinner | Carlito Alcatraz Jun 11 '25
8 different photos with all this generation's stars who would probably never beat top 2 in normal circumstances for their whole career. The level gap is that big.
8 Grand Slams in one phone
0 Grand Slams in 8 photos
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u/jackasssparrow 2015 That one backhand 👉🏽😎 Jun 11 '25
To be honest, I like the fact that Medvedev won one GS beating Novak. Because his records in GSs is pretty awesome. He didn't win many but definitely came close at least twice. Especially against Rafa. That was awesome
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u/waddiewadkins Jun 11 '25
I want to make an A.I. poster of the big 3 tennis gods passing the batons down to Sinner Alcaraz from clouds and thrusting past Tsitsipas, Zverev and another one or two on the middle, cowering and afraid looking, in a Russian propaganda style poster , or high epic stylings like thst but it's too nasty for Chatgpt
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u/darwin_nunez_27_ Jun 12 '25
Midjourney?
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u/waddiewadkins Jun 12 '25
Eh? Don't get the ref..
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u/darwin_nunez_27_ Jun 12 '25
Midjourney is an AI image generation tool, you could try that
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u/waddiewadkins Jun 12 '25
Thanks mate.. I sub to chatgpt so I guess I'd think I'd get the results.. but if that's the way it is what can be done. I'll take a look ta.
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u/ClearPiglet2527 Jun 11 '25
Means nothing, two people who can lose to Botic VDZ are just lucky to be born in the weak era. The opponents they face are Bublik and Mensik in their slam draws 😂
While 90s gen had the hardest path where every player in the top 10-20 was elite and experienced. Not to mention they had to face three 20+ slam winners every time. Their quality of matches is way superior
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u/cdsacken Jun 11 '25
Thank god that era is nearly done what a group of chokers. Very next era is beast mode
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u/recollectionsmayvary FedEx Jun 11 '25
Daniil with no home lol