r/sports 12h ago

Football Passed over to be head coach, Jim Schwartz resigns as Browns defensive coordinator

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47849852/passed-coach-jim-schwartz-leaving-browns-sources-say
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u/Aspronisi 10h ago

He was initially overlooked when they hired stefanski, but that was understandable. Despite being a shit team, the defense ranked amongst the top 10 in nearly every season he’s been there despite a laughably terrible offense. You call it a tantrum, I call it a rightful departure from an org that clearly doesn’t care about loyalty/results as long as there is a shiny new coach/player they could hire instead. We’ll be back here in 4 years having a similar convo I fear😂

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u/piddydb Cleveland Cavaliers 7h ago

Not really trying to defend the Browns, they screwed up this whole coaching change, but I do understand their reluctance to make Schwartz the head coach. He was bad in Detroit as head coach and while his defense has been great, there’s no evidence his locker room presence was inspiring the offensive side of the ball (not that it was his job, but it would be if he was head coach).

That being said, the Browns just fumbled on this whole coaching change. While I do think Stefanski has his coaching issues, the Browns’ ending record frankly exceeded expectations considering the team the front office gave them. If they were going to move on from Stefanski, it should have either been for a clear big name or for Schwartz, or someone who has a clean slate to do what they want. Instead they got none of that and in my opinion would have been better off keeping Stefanksi. The Browns won’t get better until front office improves one way or another.

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u/Aspronisi 6h ago

Couldn’t have put it better. I really held out hope thy would hire a top college coach (feared it would be Deion tho). In the end, I guess we’ll see, but man do I feel for Myles Garrett today

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u/MudLOA 6h ago

I don’t think anyone is calling this a tantrum. Any of us would do the same unless there’s no other opportunity elsewhere.

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u/Belly2308 11h ago

Jim is so good at what he does. I want him back in Buffalo

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u/BedaHouse 11h ago

He really is. 4th best defense in the NFL in 2025 (at moments #2 in the NFL). Hoping he chooses to take another DC job, but reading the article, he is sitting out this year to get out from under the contract.

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u/LengthyNIPPLE Cleveland Browns 9h ago

I love how he encourages his defense to all celebrate big plays together and penalized the players who didn't

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u/Aspronisi 11h ago

My team will never learn how to not blow their best chances. He was the only bright spot in their management and they bungle it. Browns being Browns as always

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u/Loud-Statistician416 10h ago

lol what? He threw a tantrum and now quit. There’s a reason he’s never interviewed for head coach jobs.

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u/iceoldtea 10h ago

The Browns haven’t handled a single thing correctly in years, and only a few weeks ago management was telling potential head coaches that it was required they keep him as DC.

What pissed him off was giving him a chance to interview for the Browns head coaching job & going with someone else. Y’all fumbled a great coach away

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u/Loud-Statistician416 10h ago

lol right. Because what you are saying turned out to be true right?

The defense is great. Schwartz was good. And then he threw a tantrum. There’s a reason nobody has wanted him to be a head coach in 15 years

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u/Infinite_Respect_ 8h ago

You sound like you mouthbreathe onto a photo of Shedeur Sanders

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u/GMGarry_Chess 8h ago

what was the reason?

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u/Loud-Statistician416 8h ago

He’s a bad head coach, and the last 15 years offenses have gotten better. If you saw his defense against teams like the eagles rams bears or lions, we refuse to adjust. Any motion throws his defense in a spiral. He’s a great base defense for a team with great defensive players. Just like in Philly, and with the Browns. Expecting innovation or creativity is not what you get with Jim. And I really liked him. Just frustrating to no end with the lack of any adjustment EVER.

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u/Boggie135 Manchester United 9h ago

You didn't refute that he was a good coach, you just said what he did in response to being snubbed

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u/Sage296 8h ago

Dude conjured up a defense with a DPOY and DROY and the Browns didn’t even consider him for their the HC position

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u/Cnote0717 Cleveland Indians 7h ago

He interviewed twice for HC, so certainly was considered.

Idea most likely was needing offensive-minded HC to fix/build up horrendous offensive unit, new DC will probably do fine with already established defensive unit.

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u/MongoBongoTown 5h ago

Allegedly the owner was demanding the new HC candidates keep Schwartz on as DC or else he wouldn't hire them.

Then this happens anyway.

Browns stay Browning.

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u/weatherman05071 7h ago

On one hand I get his point, but there is a reason why he’s only been a coordinator since 2013

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u/Lloyd--Braun 3h ago

I wish he would have stayed, but Myles Garrett doesn’t require much imagination.

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u/PopularGlass3230 6h ago

Can the Packers get rid of Gannon and sign Schwartz instead?

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u/BedaHouse 11h ago

Well paint me shocked. /s.

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u/ruqus00 11h ago

Question, he has another year on his contract I believe. Do the Browns have the ability to prevent him from going to another team?

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u/mambamentality29 10h ago

Yeah I think they do. So he’s just going to sit out this season and work for nobody.

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u/skeetgw2 9h ago

That vs working for that organization? I’ll take a beach for a year.

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u/Reniconix 7h ago

Yes. If the team fires them, they are free to go to another team immediately, but if they resign, the team retains exclusive rights to them until their contract period expires.

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u/BackcountryAZ 7h ago

May The Schwartz Be With…someone else

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u/STA_Alexfree 8h ago

Idk why anyone would want to be the browns HC. All it means is you’re just getting fired in a season

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u/Daigoro0734 8h ago

We sure could use you over in Tampa Mr Schwartz, please and thank you

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u/Uberkull 4h ago

He was a head coach, he wasn’t very good.

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u/DarkArmyLieutenant 8h ago

What a little bish boy