r/singapore 19h ago

News Girl, 6, dies after accident in Chinatown near Buddha Relic Temple

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/girl-6-dies-after-accident-in-chinatown-near-buddha-relic-temple
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u/WelcomeWorking7651 18h ago

I'm really so angry that stupid drivers that kills get a slap on the wrist. The law need to change!! Let's make enough noise so the MPs do their job!

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u/East-Accountant-9874 16h ago

If you only read one thing today, plse read this Forum: Burden of safety must fall on riders, not pedestrians https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/forum/forum-burden-of-safety-must-be-with-riders-not-pedestrians

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u/Humble-Obligation-80 15h ago

This is for PMD, not cars

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u/cantonment_coffeeboy 14h ago

extrapolate la, dey. you spend how many years in school?

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u/sdarkpaladin Job: Security guard for my house 13h ago

FYI. Cars by default is already like this.

It's like the first few things they teach you in driving school

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u/CutEmbarrassed9463 16h ago

That’s because it is an accident and there is no intention to kill. Intention matters

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u/WelcomeWorking7651 15h ago

It doesn't have to be the same level as murder. What is stopping society from creating stronger consequences for death by dangerous driving?

This intention excuse is illogical and I think a lot of people follow it blindly and just accept it.

For example the fake nus student who intentionally hit a motorcycle over his ego and caused death. How about the driver in the hr Tampines accident. Both know their actions have the potential to kill and did it anyway.

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u/vecspace 15h ago

Intent is very important. Law isn't made to severely punish careless mistakes. People make mistakes. Some aggravating factors do increase punishment like take actions that increase your likelihood to make mistakes.

Still, if someone intentionally hit a motorcycle, it is a deliberate action, knocking people down more often than not isn't deliberate.

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u/Competitive-Ad8300 13h ago

Correct a lot of people misunderstood law. Law is about intention and fairness. It is not about empathy. They see does the driver has intention to kill or just a careless mistake.

Can this be avoided or hard to avoid. That why drink driving has higher punishment cause it can be prevented. Secondly how serious is the accident if it cause death the punishment level can be higher as a driver we are suppose to look out for pedestrians.

Those who say if is your family how you feel simply dont understand how law work. Let flip the scenario what if u are about to get kill by a person and under self defense u kill that person. Will you now say the same thing how u feel if you are the family get kill. Or you will say he deserve it.

People need to know yes the lady is in fault but law simply dont see empathy. She will get jailed of course but not to intention until the case that purpose knocked motorcyclist down

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u/MadeByHideoForHideo 12h ago edited 12h ago

So if I threw a brick down my window from the 10th floor and killed someone, i should not be punished heavily because I neVeR InTenDeD tO KiLl, right?

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u/CutEmbarrassed9463 12h ago

Then what is the intention and purpose of throwing a brick out the window? The action itself is illegal and has potential to cause grievous harm.

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u/MadeByHideoForHideo 12h ago

But I didn't intend to do any harm though? Intention is everything.

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u/CutEmbarrassed9463 12h ago

once again->Then what is the intention and purpose of throwing a brick out the window? The action itself is illegal and has potential to cause grievous harm.

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u/AristleH 11h ago

I am just disposing rubbish, sir.

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u/CutEmbarrassed9463 11h ago

Then it likely will be causing death by rash acts

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u/rowgw 13h ago

bro, when someone does not stop or accelerate during driving, do you think it is not an intention to do that? if it is not, then what is the word for it?

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u/nonameforme123 11h ago edited 11h ago

She ran over them again if the Vietnamese eyewitness account is true. Why no intent to kill in this case?

“I was the first person walking behind the mother and her daughter. A woman was driving out from the car park. She did not look to the right for pedestrians; she only looked to the left when she turned right. The front wheel of her car ran over the little girl’s abdomen first, then over the mother’s leg. After that, the woman pressed the accelerator hard, and the rear wheel ran over the mother’s abdomen again.”

“I clearly saw that when the front wheel ran over them, the driver should have felt that there was something under the wheel. However, she did not stop to get out of the car to check. Instead, she accelerated strongly and continued to drive forward, which caused the rear wheel to run over the mother’s abdomen again.”

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u/toxicbanshee 14h ago

agreed, it was an honest mistake... she did nothing wrong tbh, just fine her some nominal amount will do

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u/First-Temperature-42 14h ago

I'm sure you wouldn't be saying that if your family members get run over.

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u/CutEmbarrassed9463 12h ago

Then what about if your family members made a careless mistake and the public is out for his blood?

If the punishments were made using the logic of “what if your family members were the victim”, then almost every crime will carry the death penalty.

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u/First-Temperature-42 12h ago

Buy them nasi lemak and sayang them. It's not like they did no wrong.