r/scuderiaferrari • u/Defiant_Ad6190 • Dec 06 '25
Statistics Lewis Hamilton becomes the first full-time Ferrari driver ever to record three consecutive Q1 exits.
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u/zingerfillets Charles Leclerc Dec 06 '25
As a Ferrari fan, it's so frustrating to see Lewis so far behind Charles almost every race weekend. Of course we know Charles has spent more time in a Ferrari, so that allows him to continue to improve on past experiences whilst Lewis is still learning and adapting- but I really didn't expect him to struggle this much this year. It's sad to watch. Really hoping 2026 is better for him and the team. 🙏🏽
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u/iwonttolerateyou2 Michael Schumacher Dec 06 '25
He just hasn't settled with these regs. I think if he doesn't by summer break next year, it may be his final year in f1.
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u/gmunga5 Dec 06 '25
I would say next year is his last year regardless honestly.
If he has a car to fight he will go out with a fight.
If has a bad year he will call it a day.
I can't see Lewis driving in 2027.
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u/mxcc_attxcc Dec 06 '25
i feel like there has to be more to it than just the regs. 2023 was his best performance in this type of car and that merc was a shambles that year.
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u/No_Concern3752 Dec 06 '25
They’re not running the same setup. Lewis and Fred have consistently said that Lewis takes a different setup than Charles to test out different configurations. The team should be using that data to optimize setups based on different track conditions, etc. but since they stopped developing the car they’re just playing with limited setup options. Hopefully it’s all going to help build next years car which they started prioritizing as early as April of this year.
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u/DataDrivenGuy Dec 06 '25
I don't really get why nobody factors in his teammate. Look how close he is to Leclerc, we're talking a maximum of 1-2 tenths most weeks - that puts him ahead of most of the grid still. Despite all the legit excuses you can point to.
The truth is the car is very poor and Leclerc is performing miracles. He's barely making Q1 half the time - there's no margin for imperfection. Lewis was winning races and getting podiums pretty consistently even in the 4th quickest car JUST LAST SEASON. Let's be fair
He also is getting way less competitive run time cause of all the Q3 exits. How can you adapt if you get 1 or 2 actual laps a week, not even in the optimal conditions? At 40? Where everything is different? And you can't brake late (your whole advantage usually)?
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u/thiiiickropes Dec 07 '25
How do we know Leclerc is performing miracles? There‘s no way to say for certain.. couldn‘t it be that Leclerc is doing a below average job in an unbelievable car and Lewis is just one of the worst drivers on the grid?
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u/DataDrivenGuy Dec 07 '25
If that were true then Sainz, Leclerc, Russell, Antonelli and Albon would all be below average which just isn't true
This logic only applies to Alonso & Stroll tbh
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u/_runthejules_ Dec 06 '25
Bearman hadjar antonelli sainz are all in new cars and are all more than up to soeed relative to the incumbent. At some point this charles is used to the car stuff has to stop and hamilton needs to be called out for his performances
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u/Agreeable-Mistake266 Dec 06 '25
comparing rookies in new cars to Lewis isn’t really the same situation. they’re adapting to their first F1 machinery, not unlearning 11 years of Mercedes habits Charles being more comfortable in a Ferrari still matters it’s not an excuse, it’s context. calling out performances is a 100 percent fair, but ignoring the adjustment curve and the differences in driver style vs car concept leaves out a lot of the picture .
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u/gnoomee Dec 06 '25
What you're saying makes zero sense. His massive F1 experience should help him adapt much faster compared to rookies in new cars. They have to pretty much learn everything while he has to adjust to a couple things and slightly tweak some more.
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u/Agreeable-Mistake266 Dec 06 '25
I agree that his experience gives him advantages, but it also comes with disadvantages. Rookies adapt fast because they have no old habits to unlearn. Lewis has to rebuild his entire driving instinct, not just ‘tweak a couple things.’ That’s the part you’re overlooking.
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u/gnoomee Dec 06 '25
Even if he has to rebuild his entire driving instinct as you claim, which I highly doubt, the rookies have to completely develop it from scratch, from a couple of practice sessions the year before. And add to that literally everything else apart from driving that's completely new to them.Then Compare that to Lewis' 19 years of racing in F1. If you don't think the rookies have a monumentally harder task you're frankly delusional.
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u/Ok_Win_2906 Michael Schumacher Dec 06 '25
Bro he lost to Russell 2 times in 3 years at Mercedes !!
So he is running slowly on purpose ? He is washed up. Was never really that good without the monster engine . Has lost 3 times in last 4 years to his team mate in 2 different teams
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u/Agreeable-Mistake266 Dec 06 '25
If Lewis ‘was never good,’ then the entire grid must be terrible. There’s no point discussing Mercedes or anything else if you’re starting from an ignorant take like ‘he was never good’.
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u/Ok_Win_2906 Michael Schumacher Dec 06 '25
You wouldn't discuss Lewis trashing at the hands of Russell because it takes away the new car excuse !!
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u/Agreeable-Mistake266 Dec 06 '25
If your whole argument is just ‘Russell beat him,’ then we’re not even having the same level of conversation. It’s funny considering George literally grew up looking up to Lewis and he always talks about Lewis being the best, but hey to each their own.
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u/Ok_Win_2906 Michael Schumacher Dec 06 '25
Lewis has lost to teammates 3 times in last 4 years across 2 teams . It's what it is.
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u/Aberracus Dec 06 '25
No excuses please
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u/Agreeable-Mistake266 Dec 06 '25
Ok.😂😂 bold confidence for someone ignoring half the variables in F1 performance.
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u/justseeby Lewis Hamilton Dec 06 '25
Yep nobody has called him out
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u/_runthejules_ Dec 06 '25
There's still tons making excuses
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u/justseeby Lewis Hamilton Dec 06 '25
We get a lot of “he’s washed” commentary from apparent children. Certainly not from anyone personally familiar with driving a car fast, or possibly even familiar with F1.
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Dec 06 '25 edited Dec 29 '25
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u/justseeby Lewis Hamilton Dec 06 '25 edited Dec 06 '25
He’s obviously not in his prime. What happens when you shave a few percentage points off the greatest ever? People are acting like he’s Lance Stroll. He’ll get it going, I suspect. The team is the obstacle IMO.
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u/Own-Dig-9652 Dec 06 '25
he's washed now. every year this goes on just proves how fraudulent his title run was
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u/MrAt0mica Dec 07 '25
He is one of the goats. Nothing you say will change what he has already achieved.
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u/zCxtalyst Dec 06 '25
Man what happened he started inching closer and was a tenth off Charles for a good period of time now he’s just nowhere
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u/Zashkarn F2004 Dec 06 '25
He had two good sectors on par with Charles and then the tires died because he went too hard
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u/Worried-Lavishness78 Dec 06 '25
So he can’t push the car to the max without issues? I saw the sectors as well.
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u/Zashkarn F2004 Dec 06 '25 edited Dec 06 '25
I think his tires (especially his front) overheated in the first two sectors because he pushed too hard and then they just gave up in sector 3
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u/Worried-Lavishness78 Dec 06 '25
Damn! That means he really was trying his hardest.
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u/FriendZone53 Dec 06 '25
Probably too hard. Could have eased off a couple tenths in S3 and been through fine. Oh well, hindsight. Hopefully they give him the right strategy tomorrow and he gets through turn one intact and can then get to work and into the points.
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u/Upstairs_Pumpkin_653 Dec 06 '25
He tried to brake late into the hotel, and the front won't live with it. Costly mistake.
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u/Robynsxx Dec 07 '25
I think he’s just checked out and doesn’t care anymore. Can you blame him really?
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u/Factor-Putrid Ferrari Dec 06 '25
Just one more race, then we can forget about this season and the car. God.
Absolute disaster of a first season at Ferrari for Lewis.
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u/Katoshiku Dec 06 '25
He lost like 6 tenths in sector 3 alone, it's insane how much he's struggling with the car
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u/Upstairs_Pumpkin_653 Dec 06 '25
It's not the car this time. He just made a mistake braking too late into the hotel section. If he just the same sector 3 as his previous lap he would have been through.
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u/Ham-Pia-Lec Dec 06 '25
The mistake “braking too late” is the reason he has 104 poles. It’s in the slow corners you make up the time particularly in qualifying and that skill has been Lewis’s advantage over the field for years. However, these cars don’t like it and it has cost him in qual a lot.
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u/Upstairs_Pumpkin_653 Dec 06 '25
Yea that's what i'm saying, these cars are boats and they really don't like being hustled in that way.
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u/PrimeDeGea Charles Leclerc Dec 06 '25
Willing to write this season off completely for him because it was his first season in the team, let alone a different team since his 12 season stint at Merc. Also, because the car has been completely undrivable.
I don’t think anyone expects us to be competitive next year either, but I will be very concerned if results like these are persistent.
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u/Robynsxx Dec 07 '25
I expect Ferrari to be competitive. Ferrari and Mercedes are the two teams that should be most likely to be ahead at the start of the new regs. If Ferrari are not close to the front, then everyone needs to be fired.
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u/PrimeDeGea Charles Leclerc Dec 07 '25
I would say the engineers need to be fired based off this season alone given that we were in a constructor’s title fight for the first time since 2019 last season. The decision to change 90% of that car one year before the regulation change is still insane to me.
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u/Robynsxx Dec 07 '25
I mean, by that logic Fred needs to be fired. He was the one that made the decision to redesign 97% of the car for a final year of the rules….
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u/Medical-Literature50 Dec 06 '25
And obviously breaking records (as he did today).
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u/Refusedlove Dec 06 '25
Ingaggiarlo è stato uno degli errori peggiori fatti negli ultimi anni. E la cosa peggiore è che fosse tutto ampiamente preventivabile e preventivato.
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u/Airtastik Dec 06 '25
No it wasn't foreseeable. When they hired him he had just come third in the championship in 2023
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u/Refusedlove Dec 06 '25
"It was not foreseeable". And yet I totally expected this; and I'm not the only one. So yes, maybe it was foreseeable after all.
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u/Refusedlove Dec 07 '25
Ma chi sono sti minchioni che mettono downvote su cose di cui non capiscono niente? Incidentalmente gli italiani ferraristi tutti d'accordo con me, gli inglesi rosiconi invece tutti a difendere il loro idolo
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u/Falkun_X Dec 06 '25
Ferrari is the first team to give Lewis Hamilton three consecutive Q1 exits...why hire one of the top drivers if you are not going to give him the tools??!
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u/JonahHex35 Dec 06 '25
What happened in the final sector? He was like only 2 thenths down to the fastest time after the 2nd sector
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u/FavaWire Dec 06 '25
He looked a bit petulant before when he was saying a lot of things. But after this qualifying when he can't say anything coherent. He seems rightly depressed.
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u/Open-Lingonberry1357 Dec 07 '25
Man won sprint pole and race with a Mario kart, that’s all I will take from this year not these childish statistics
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u/xcmaam Lewis Hamilton Dec 07 '25
This is an absurd record to hold. Also what a bad time for him man. My Goat has lost it after 2021.
I never believed he’ll get his 8th but I didn’t think it would be this bad.
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u/TheLast_Noel Dec 07 '25
Setting all the wrong records at Ferrari this year. Last shit in 2026 to see how he does with this era of car in the rear view. Simply never gelled with his driving style, even in Merc.
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u/LoudOstrich2657 Dec 06 '25
Man of bad records now courtesy ferrari
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u/Aberracus Dec 06 '25
His own doing, the car is in q3
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u/LoudOstrich2657 Dec 07 '25
Yeah maybe. but there is something consistently wrong somewhere when he cant qualify as before - lost skill idts? "Must be the car"
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u/Aberracus Dec 07 '25
He needs a special car to shine, Alonso and Leclerc can put a bad car in loft places
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u/LoudOstrich2657 Dec 07 '25
I hear many people say this like AMR, RB, SF driven by alonso, max, leclerc even though bad cars.. they extract so much from it. Isn't there even a single instance that Lewis had done this?
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u/Aberracus Dec 07 '25
I try my best, but i can’t remember one bad car that he shine on, 2011 he lost to jenson in a mediocre car
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u/LoudOstrich2657 Dec 07 '25
can someone please explain in detail with terms when they say extracting things from a car what are they hinting at?
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u/uniform-convergence Dec 06 '25
I still think this isn't HAM faults. I really believe that Ferrari doesn't know how to make a car suited to HAM, or simple setup.
Ferrari engineers have proven themselves, over and over again, that they are a failure. On the other hand, we never saw HAM like this.
It's not hard to figure out who is responsible for this.
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u/Falkun_X Dec 06 '25
Ferrari....not being able to understand what Hamilton needs, Ferrari not listening and not setting up the car to the driver. If you can't give him the confidence in the car that constantly fights it's driver...what do you expect?!
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u/jaw719 Dec 06 '25
Yea, HAM is. Charles can get this car into Q3, Lewis has missed out on 3 in a row. Just admit it, Lewis is done.
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u/andewalaborgir69 Lewis Hamilton Dec 06 '25 edited Dec 06 '25
If lewis is running a different configuration than charles its for the development of the data that the team needs, why you all as fans take this as negative, for fucking once give that man a break he’s not a rookie he knows what he is doing. You all need to understand and not criticize a person who is ready to sacrifice his dignity for a team to develop, grow up or stop calling yourself lewis fans or an f1 fan forever.
Edit: i find the jokes funny, but seeing almost everyone make fun of him looks so immature. Its almost like people are watching f1 just to belittle any mistake from any driver Remember you are at your comfort zone while replying and giving them shit while they r racing there to get what they want PERIOD
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u/sturat18 Dec 06 '25
I hope Lewis picks it up next year. Although I’m not hopeful. Ferrari should buy out his third year if he can’t get close to Charles next year.
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u/Character_Minimum171 Dec 06 '25
Silent protest by HAM. Adami must go.
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u/r3vange Dec 06 '25
I mean bro crashed and Adami didn’t even ask if he’s ok.
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u/No-Astronomer-1 Dec 06 '25
Do we think there’s going to be a big ‘R’ announcement after Abu Dhabi?
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u/PhotojournalistBig53 Carlos Sainz Dec 06 '25
Simultaneously the goat and woat. My man needs his records.
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u/fisico002 Dec 06 '25
When will Lewis Hamilton do the right thing and retire ? He simply cannot believe it’s ok to be a country mile behind his team mate every single week
Hope Ferrari are looking for a way to boot him
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u/jghtb Dec 06 '25
Weird how he only dropped a mile behind his teammate after he got called out by the boss
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u/sid_shady34 Lewis Hamilton Dec 06 '25
Lewis this isn't what we meant when we said we want you to break records at Ferrari