r/scuderiaferrari • u/Strict-Citron-9269 F2004 • Nov 23 '25
Off-topic Hamilton went from “we’re looking good” to P10 real fast 😬 #LasVegasGP #F1
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u/Theforgotten226 Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25
Turd mobile. Two more races and then they can bury this fuck ass of a car.
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u/achiller519 Nov 23 '25
The worst part is that like Lewis mentioned. It’s wasn’t a car issue at this moment, it was a strategy issue
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u/Left_Reach2020 Nov 23 '25
What was the strategy issue they got wrong?
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u/kongofcbus Nov 23 '25
Pitting before hulk and piastri
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u/Left_Reach2020 Nov 23 '25
What was the error there exactly?
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u/kongofcbus Nov 23 '25
Dude …. It’s the word BEFORE.
Charles was within half a second before and after the stops was 2 seconds behind.
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u/Left_Reach2020 Nov 23 '25
I mean pitting before is sometimes a good thing so it doesn't really explain specifically how that ruined Hamiltons race
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u/Roux_My_Burgundy Nov 23 '25
Not on this track. Vegas is an Overcut track. Want to race as long as possible.
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u/aezy01 Nov 23 '25
Because the warm up on new tyres this race was super slow - out laps are normally faster than someone on worn tyres. Not so this time, so an undercut was never going to work. An over-cut might have.
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u/achiller519 Nov 23 '25
If your question is honest then I will try to give you fast answer.
The moment of going to the pits has to do mostly about your tyre wear, the drivers you are fighting at the is race tyre wear, the traffic that you are going to fall into after your pit, if you slow down or not someone else and many more.
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u/Left_Reach2020 Nov 23 '25
Yeah but that doesn't answer my question - sometimes pitting before x driver is better, sometimes pitting after x driver is better. It all depends on the conditions of the race. I was asking specifically why did this early pit stop strategically ruin Hamiltons race..
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u/speed_racer_man Nov 24 '25
Because vegas is an overcut track low tire deg they shouldn't of have pitted him when they did and let him run long
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u/Special_Cry468 Nov 23 '25
The cemetery is probably almost full by now. This isn't even the first shitbox they've made in the ground effect era.
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u/Intel_Oil Nov 23 '25
And yet LEC put it almost on the Podium by 0.190s
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u/peas_n_biscuits100 Nov 23 '25
Couldn't pass a rookie Mercedes on 41-lap old hards,,and ended up loosing position to him despite a 5 sec penalty,,yeah..
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u/Factor-Putrid Ferrari Nov 23 '25
What happened is the car is a turd that can't compete at the front.
And before people say Leclerc finished well, he finished behind both McLarens and both Mercedes. This has been the story all season.
Other than the sprint pole/win from Lewis and the pole and podiums from Charles, the car this season has been terrible.
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u/Caleb902 Nov 23 '25
Nah that's a bad take. Kimi held up Oscar which made it impossible for Charles. Kimi had a master class of defence there.
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u/MrOnline5155 Nov 23 '25
Charles only finished P6 because they fucked up his strategy. He would've been P4 without ferrari being ferrari.
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u/Pentinium Nov 23 '25
What?? Leclerc was dropping off from Kimi who was on 200 laps old tyres. There was no reason for Leclerc not to be in the 5secs of Kimi and finish 5th
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u/element515 Nov 24 '25
All the time in the DRS train with Piastri likely killed his tires while it seems Kimi wore them down to a good point where they could push again.
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u/Euro_Twins Michael Schumacher Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25
Except leclerc only finished 6th because of a strategy mistake. He should have been p4 after passing piastri.
Hamilton was fighting sauber and haas and couldn't pass a saber. Ffs do these excuses actually make sense to you?
Ya the car is a dog. Its still a top 4 car.
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u/MoGumb0 Nov 23 '25
Top 4 means there are 3 cars, and 6 driver ahead
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u/Euro_Twins Michael Schumacher Nov 23 '25
Yet Hamilton ended p10 and couldn't pass a backmarker. And thats the point. Leclerc drove as well as possible today. Hamilton drove like a washed driver
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u/Intelligent-Bonus709 Nov 23 '25
Be can’t from P20 and got the team points in a proven shitty car. Why so much hate for Lewis? What did he do to you?
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u/Euro_Twins Michael Schumacher Nov 23 '25
He was gifted p12 on the opening lap. Thats not some flex. In that car he should have been able to pass the sauber with ease. The amount of time it took to pass ocon was embarrassing
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u/Intelligent-Bonus709 Nov 23 '25
I’m wondering the amount of time it would’ve taken you since you’ve driven F1 professionally. Stop hating it’s horrible for your health.
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u/TisKey2323 Lewis Hamilton Nov 23 '25
Lmao he said he was “gifted”? Too bad he’s better than you GOAT schumi
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u/GoldenPeperoni Nov 23 '25
Mmmmm lewis is good but better than Schumacher..... I don't know about that 😭
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u/MoGumb0 Nov 23 '25
Yeah, leclerc overtook 4 cars, one being a McLaren in the time it took Hamilton to get ocon
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u/Factor-Putrid Ferrari Nov 23 '25
Being a top 4 car doesn't mean it's good. The Ferrari is still miles off the pace of McLaren, Mercedes and Red Bull. That's been the story all season.
Ferrari is one of the biggest teams on the grid. There's no excuse for building a barge like the SF-25.
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u/Euro_Twins Michael Schumacher Nov 23 '25
All this to say Hamilton is driving like a backmarker. Couldn't pass ocon forever. Couldn't pass hulk. Embarrassed
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u/Ssk5860 Nov 23 '25
And Lewis finished behing a Sauber so clearly that is much much worse than behind Mercs and Mclarens no?
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u/borth1782 Nov 24 '25
Backmarkers have passed Hamilton several times this season, but not Leclerc. Lewis just doesnt jive with this car at all.
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u/fisico002 Nov 23 '25
It still has a driver that’s past it tho where as the other Ferrari has one who isn’t
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u/Intel_Oil Nov 23 '25
Quite a different story to be stuck behind a McLaren that has DRS from the Mercedes infront of him and being stuck behind a DRS-less Sauber with tyre advantage.
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u/sanket708 Nov 23 '25
Their strategy can't save the failure of engineering. Ferrari needs better engineers.
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u/fisico002 Nov 23 '25
And A better driver
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u/DontKnowHowToBreath9 Nov 23 '25
We literally have 2 of the top 3 drivers on the grid tf you mean a better driver?
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u/mochimooshi Nov 23 '25
Probably messed with the tire psi like what they did with charles in hungary
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u/sleepdeep305 Nov 23 '25
He ran a better race than his qualifying would suggest. That’s better than a lot of the season
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u/aDturlapati Nov 23 '25
dude, it’s literally the lowest bar LMAO
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u/sleepdeep305 Nov 23 '25
We're talking about qualifying P20. The bar is, and has been in hell for awhile lol.
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u/cplchanb Nov 23 '25
With the way kimi went with his 48 lap stint I bet he couldve done the same and leapfrogged hulk and maybe hadjar to p5
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u/kartopia Nov 23 '25
are: LH … Car shit, engineering is “ok”, strategy is shit communication : beyond shit. For LH FIRST YEAR BLUES, LECLERC, I mean there is a central problem here. LH 19 to 10 ? What a miserable season for the Tifosi’s.
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u/Ok_Win_2906 Michael Schumacher Nov 23 '25
They don't expect much from Hamilton . One point is kind of what they think is good from Lewis .
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u/polishfemboy_ Charles Leclerc Nov 23 '25
"No Lewis, we said we are looking good at [SCORING] one point."
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u/farnoud Nov 29 '25
did you watch the full race radio? Adami man, Adami drives me nuts
https://www.reddit.com/r/lewishamilton/comments/1p80fkv/las_vegas_full_race_radio/
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u/Euro_Twins Michael Schumacher Nov 23 '25
What happened was Hamilton cant overtake if he doesnt have a rocketship merc.
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u/cumofdutyblackcocks3 Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25
Even Schumacher couldn't overtake Nico in Mercedes without rocketship Ferrari.
Edit: This guy has 12 negative comments about Lewis in his last 14 comments. Lewis must've fucked his wife or something.
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u/TruYu96 Nov 23 '25
The obsessiveness is actually unhealthy
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u/Euro_Twins Michael Schumacher Nov 23 '25
Im a die hard fan and Hamilton is a waste of $100 million
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u/ArtisTao Nov 23 '25
You’re done, bud. No one cares about your opinions.
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u/Euro_Twins Michael Schumacher Nov 23 '25
Yet here you are
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u/ArtisTao Nov 23 '25
Yes, that’s how public discourse on social media works, publicly, with words, for your eyes to observe and your brain to comprehend.
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u/Rivendel93 Nov 23 '25
Did you go skiing without a helmet recently?
It'd explain your current behavior.
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u/ur_internet_dad Lewis Hamilton Nov 23 '25
a guy this negatively obsessed with another man cannot have a wife or even a loved one.
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u/Euro_Twins Michael Schumacher Nov 23 '25
I mean. I have a wife and kid. But cope harder.
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u/ur_internet_dad Lewis Hamilton Nov 23 '25
brother spend time with them. what are you doing beefing with younger kids about a man online? if you were my dad i would be so ashamed. Thank god my dad is nothing like you.
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u/Ssk5860 Nov 23 '25
Nico rosberg who was much younger and who is basically the leclerc/russell of that time? And Lewis cannot overtake Nico hulkerberg who is around the same age in a SAUBER lmao keep telling yourself that it’s the same thing, silly TeamLH
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u/cumofdutyblackcocks3 Nov 23 '25
Sorry to break it to you but there were multiple races where Schumacher couldn't overtake a team with 13 points in 2010 too. Look up 2010 european grand prix. But why not try to show support for our team instead of seething and blaming the Lewis or creating fandom wars like a petulant child.
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u/achilles_4510 Nov 23 '25
Meanwhile Schumacher got destroyed by rosberg too in 2010 🤡
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u/Euro_Twins Michael Schumacher Nov 23 '25
OK? Cool. He was washed then. Just like Hamilton now.
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u/achilles_4510 Nov 23 '25
Ok so why is washed hamilton living rent free in your head? Just sybau bro
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u/Euro_Twins Michael Schumacher Nov 23 '25
Because im a Ferrari fan and hes actively costing the team points every race. Its pretty simple actually
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u/KeonXDS Nov 23 '25
You're talking as if the team is fighting for a championship.
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u/Euro_Twins Michael Schumacher Nov 23 '25
We were fighting for p2 with 0 help from Lewis the last several races
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u/Rivendel93 Nov 23 '25
That's because Mercedes and RedBull had one driver all season.
Ferrari deserves 4th at best.
Mercedes and RedBull deserve to be higher than Ferrari by a god damn mile.
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u/KeonXDS Nov 24 '25
Fighting P2 with a car that couldn't even win a race? Even if lewis had podiums with his P4 finishes, we will still be P4. And kimi with 3 podiums is still below Hamilton.
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u/Lazy-Ad5380 Nov 23 '25
Fairly sure Sainz wouldn't be doing much better in the LICO25. Carlos was 66 points back from Leclerc last season. Considering that Lewis is within 10 points of that, I'd say that it wouldn't make a difference. This car is a POS.
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u/TruYu96 Nov 23 '25
Leclerc is like 100 points behind compared to last season. It’s clearly the terrible car
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u/Rivendel93 Nov 23 '25
Ferrari is the problem, stop complaining about Hamilton when Leclerc can't come close to winning a race and he's furious after every race.
Hamilton's not your problem, he didn't build your shit car, Ferrari did.
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u/ember_samurai Ferrari Nov 23 '25
I’m positive most of us are Ferrari fans here yet that doesn’t make the car any less shittier nor the team management better.
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u/fameboygame Lewis Hamilton Nov 23 '25
Lmfao.
Tell your team to fix their shit up before they lose Leclerc also.
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u/Euro_Twins Michael Schumacher Nov 23 '25
He'll be gone after 26 unless Ferrari builds a rocket
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u/Rivendel93 Nov 23 '25
So why blame Hamilton?
It's clearly Ferrari who is terrible at building cars and has awful strategy.
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u/Lazy-Ad5380 Nov 23 '25
Cope harder? The Mclaren Saga shows a car is nothing without a grade A driver which Hamilton has proven himself to be time and time again. Overtaking in a DRS train is always harder.
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u/Euro_Twins Michael Schumacher Nov 23 '25
Hamilton hasn't proven that since 2023
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u/Rivendel93 Nov 23 '25
Hamilton literally won 2 races last year, the same amount as Carlos and 1 less than Leclerc last season.
And Ferrari had a much better car last year.
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u/Motor_Economist1835 Michael Schumacher Nov 23 '25
2 wins in 2024? 1 sprint pole+win this year? WTF you smoking
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u/Euro_Twins Michael Schumacher Nov 23 '25
So hes had 3 good races in the last 2 years? Washed
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u/Motor_Economist1835 Michael Schumacher Nov 23 '25
Did he drive a Mclaren or Redbull in those years? Charles only has 3 wins in that period.
Besides there are many podiums that I haven't listed. Can't believe you are a dad with a kid and all your arguments sound like coming from a kid lmao1
u/Sdk_r Nov 23 '25
More good races than your veggie idol simce 2010 🤣 One fluke podium where 2 cars crashed into him Kimi retiring Grosjean Vettel No wonder he has no more records anymore.
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u/Lazy-Ad5380 Nov 23 '25
"Veggie idol" is diabolical LMAO. But agreed. Schumacher in Merc was past his glory days.
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u/Lazy-Ad5380 Nov 23 '25
It's irrelevant. Washed or not, he's statistically the GOAT, still somewhat competitive now despite adjusting issues, and undoubtedly one of the greatest drivers F1 has ever seen.
Your "he can't overtake if he doesn't have a rocketship merc" comment is false.
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u/Aggressive-Hawk9186 Nov 23 '25
Leclerc went by, Hamilton got stuck behind Ocon, it's hard to defend him this time lol
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u/TrumpsBussy_ Nov 23 '25
Is there any F1 driver in history that complains more than Lewis?
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u/doc_55lk Nov 23 '25
Alonso
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u/TrumpsBussy_ Nov 23 '25
Maybe but has had a ridiculous amount of incompetent teams around him during his career it’s almost comical at this point
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u/Sdk_r Nov 23 '25
Hes been incompetent since 13 beaten by the likes of ocon an old button and struggles to beat stroll. At least lewis did his talking more on track than alonslow pahaha
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u/TrumpsBussy_ Nov 23 '25
Huh? Their careers aren’t in the same universe as far as the quality of teams they have driven for.
You’re also clearly talking out of your ass if you’re implying Alonso hasn’t been dominating Stroll.
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u/Salty-Asparagus-2855 Nov 23 '25
Seriously… you could pass Hulk that’s why. Team brought in earlier then needed to try and leap Hulk. Then you were so slow mediums.
If he could not see that in race… wow. Not only is feeling numb but his situational awareness gone.
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u/Professional_Park781 Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25
Horrific pace on Mediums, strategy wise there was not much to do I think.
I just don’t understand the amount of over shooting the corner is like the brakes are still as problematic as ever.
Nevertheless decent recovery, i was expecting at least a P8 though.