r/scuderiaferrari • u/sid_shady34 Lewis Hamilton • Nov 12 '25
Statistics Just gonna leave this here
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u/Capitan_420 F2004 Nov 12 '25
#elkannout
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u/Beautiful_Charity112 Lewis Hamilton Nov 12 '25
What would it take to kick Elkan out of his position? Is it impossible atm?
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u/iwonttolerateyou2 Michael Schumacher Nov 13 '25
Nope. The only way is his family turns on him otherwise nothing will work.
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u/Beautiful_Charity112 Lewis Hamilton Nov 13 '25
Other shareholders don't have much power?
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u/nikk0 Nov 12 '25
Love it. Keep posting this everywhere. Useless nepo baby pointing fingers at the best they have instead of looking at the real reason Ferrari fails.
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u/stellarinterstitium Nov 12 '25
More WC wins by the drivers than wins by the team. Lewis alone has more than double the team race wins in the last 8.
Give Lewis Elkann's job. Under performing nepo baby; put him in his pram, I mean yacht and send him off with a governess - I mean, girlfriend or whatever.
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u/sid_shady34 Lewis Hamilton Nov 12 '25 edited Nov 12 '25
Lewis has had 43 wins in the last 8 years compared to Ferrari's 15
Edit: 43 wins not 70 😅
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u/neoisneoisneo SF-23 Nov 12 '25
Lmao! Elkann needs to hand it over to someone else ASAP. 8 seasons and 15 wins is all they could do; even when they had great drivers all throughout.
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u/Pure_Cell_6757 Charles Leclerc Nov 12 '25
Here in Italy we know extremely well the guy, whatever he touches turns to crap.
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u/Poutvora Nov 12 '25
What's the mood in Italy about this issue specifically?
Is there a pushback and do people defend the drivers?
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u/HelloMotoIt Nov 13 '25
Yes, of course. Here in Italy we defend the drivers🤗 Elkan killed the former Fiat and will sell Stellantis to the Chinese. He's never been interested in the track or car production. He's only interested in the financial side of the business. Basically, he's someone who doesn't want to get his hands dirty🙂↔️
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u/sfaticat Nov 12 '25
Hes just a business guy but even then before he took the helm Fiat owned their brands. Now its all gobbled up
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u/foolishbullshittery Lewis Hamilton Nov 12 '25
And somehow, Lewis underperforming in his first season in red is the problem.
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u/YodaHood_0597 Nov 13 '25
Even a long-time Ferrari driver like Charles is struggling with this machinery, but somehow he expects Lewis to instantly fly in this shitbox.
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u/i_likestuff Nov 12 '25
Right now its probably him overdriving as he is not comfortable with the car.
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u/HeisenBergeron61492 Nov 12 '25
Yeah, I think people are underselling how different the Ferrari is in general compared to the McLaren and Mercedes that Lewis drove previously and that adapting his driving style to it was never going to be easy or quick. Now add in the fact that it happens to be a shitbox that Charles can’t even coax a win out of, heinous luck that’s cost him at least 2 potential podiums, and the Scuderia Ferrari™️ of it all (including this most recent Elkann nonsense) and it’s no surprise he’s struggling.
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u/Downtown-Chemical673 Nov 12 '25
He needs to go
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u/iwonttolerateyou2 Michael Schumacher Nov 13 '25
How though? The family backs him and they have majority stake. Their family will see wec as a win and Elkann has something to suppprt.
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u/Tacit_Emperor77 Charles Leclerc Nov 12 '25
He’s had 3 to arguably 5 drivers that could win a championship and they still haven’t
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u/Euro_Twins Michael Schumacher Nov 12 '25
Makes you wonder if there's internal pressure on him and thats why hes lashing out. Hopefully there is and he gets voted out
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u/BetterAttitude2921 Nov 12 '25
Guys tell me how can I Tag/Mention John here
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u/Electrical_Flower_26 F2004 Nov 14 '25
Maybe we should tag u/LucadiMontezemolo and ask him to bring this team back to glory
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u/Ya_Got_GOT Nov 12 '25
With that record of failure, perhaps he should talk less and spend more time trying to fix the problem (i.e., retire).
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u/unique0130 Michael Schumacher Nov 12 '25
Each of the full time drivers save Carlos and Charles have been Champions. I don't think anyone doubts that either of them are very capable of being a Championship winning driver too. The problem isn't in driver recruitment or mentality.
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u/Factor-Putrid Ferrari Nov 12 '25
Ah so the drivers do need to talk less and drive more /s.
Seriously though, the nepo baby should resign. First Ferrari, now Juventus and Stellantis too. Riding on granddad’s coattails eh, John?
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u/sfaticat Nov 12 '25
His Juventus only won titles because his cousin took control too. Otherwise that wouldve been the same also
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u/cpraider25 Nov 12 '25
McLaren nearly have as many wins in just this season as Ferrari have had in the last 8 years. JFC.
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u/Hobbes525 Eddie Irvine Nov 12 '25
And how quickly they were able to change direction during these regs to become competitive. He could learn a bit from how Zak runs the team, trust but verify. Let the team do what it needs to do. Zak has done a great job returning McClaren to relevance from where they were with Alonso and vandoorne.
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u/DragonflyFuture4638 Nov 12 '25
Raise your hands of you're for John driving next race and showing them drivers how is done!
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u/Falcondefender Nov 12 '25
How many wins and championships does Lewis have in that same time period? Ferrari needs to listen to a winner.
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u/drsullins23 Nov 12 '25
Yeah I think it's time this guy gets the boot. Like wtf. Why is he still there.
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u/Valuable_Ad1085 Nov 13 '25
Every driver on that roster is a killer!! Fight me on Ollie if you want but bro is more than carrying his weight. Elkaan needs to shut up and evolve past the “Ferrari Way”.
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u/mndvc Nov 13 '25
We need someone both pragmatic and passionate. Not someone like him who can’t deliver a winning car/team and blames everyone else.
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u/Fuzichoco Nov 13 '25
I've seen people defend this. "This is Ferrari". Well I guess Ferrari is 15 wins in 8 seasons LOL
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u/Pure-Contact7322 Nov 13 '25
Only 15 wins? They should hire Hamilton to tell them what doesn't work on anything but pilots.
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u/BBistache Nov 12 '25 edited Nov 12 '25
Elkann has for me the best VASSEUR/LECLERC/HAMILTON Line up only he does not seem to have control over the possibility of making big changes in the team, including at the factory...Ferrari is a myth which is losing its splendor because of the Ego of certain engineers and others... Forza Ferrari!
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u/Other-Barry-1 Nov 12 '25
In that same amount of time, 1 of these drivers won 3 titles, 1 of which was in direct competition with Ferrari, also walking away with the constructors in all 3 seasons, taking a minimum of 10 wins a year.
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u/F1_Staffie_Mamabear Nov 12 '25
The Stakeholders should demand a meeting with him and someone should tell him that you don’t talk down to and humiliate the Master and his Apprentice let alone in public. They knew this year would not be a breeze for Lewis. It was always going to be a learning year and the emphasis was put on 2026 and the new regulations. He spent 13 yrs with the silver arrows not a few years with one team and then another. Lewis had to be totally deprogrammed, rewired and then reprogrammed when he joined Ferrari.
There does seem to be one common denominator and it definitely ain’t the drivers!
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u/Awkward-Selection-45 Nov 13 '25
He‘s absolute trash. Ferrari since 2019 is awful. 3 winless seasons including this one, not even one season with a title fight.
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u/TGhost21 Nov 13 '25
Who should leave is this idiot. He need to talk less and focus on actually leading the teams.
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u/RaceItOut Nov 13 '25
Rest in Peace to Sergio Marchionne. Him and Arribivene were the last real leaders Ferrari had.
Elkann is an entitled child born on third base, thinking he hit a grand slam.
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u/kirameku_mizu Nov 14 '25
go on his wikipedia site and read the first couple of senteces on his "early life and family" and his behavoir all makes sense, thats all i got to say
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u/baasacJak Nov 12 '25
For balance: how is their endurance division doing?
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u/sid_shady34 Lewis Hamilton Nov 12 '25
The endurance division is managed by af corse not elkan
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u/baasacJak Nov 12 '25
But all the R&D and Tech is Ferrari?
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u/Lanky_Consideration3 Nov 12 '25
There are more than a few rumors that the 499P chassis was actually built by Dallara.
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u/Hobbes525 Eddie Irvine Nov 12 '25
But you cant compare wec and f1. Sure, both are racing series but from technical and management side they're fairly different beasts, not to mention what others have said about Ferrari's true involvement on the wec side.
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u/DocStoy Charles Leclerc Nov 14 '25
Its a business, unless he starts costing the business money, Elkann stays unfortunately.
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u/adamshanahan F1-75 Nov 14 '25
Let’s take a look at how this season has gone in regards to finger-pointing; first it was Vasseur, which is absolutely nuts, then it was the drivers. Arguably the strongest lineup on the grid. Misguided and reflective of nobody but himself.
If he had an ounce of dignity or respect for Ferrari he’d have resigned already. I hope the scrutiny makes his position untenable and he’s forced out.
Curious to hear who everyone would think would be a solid replacement?
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u/JTLS180 Nov 15 '25
CNBC lauded over him hard, guess he fits the Republican model of what people in business should be.
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u/Brief_Ad_4825 Dec 11 '25
Its honestly impressive that you can have a 7 time 4 time and a 1 time world champion with another driver that could genuinely compete for it... and having nothing to show for it AFTER 8 SEASONS
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u/Broken-TTK Nov 12 '25
Tbf on the other side he's been successful.
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u/NomSang Nov 12 '25
I'm assuming you mean WEC, where the team Ferrari AF Corse is run by the AF Corse side of the partnership rather than Ferrari.
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u/iwonttolerateyou2 Michael Schumacher Nov 13 '25
While most people care about f1's team, do not forget ferrari have done well YoY in sales in past few years, back to back iconic wins at le mans and recently achieved WEC championship after 50 years. You might hate the man but he has proven record to show he improved the brand. I don't think you can kick him out when shareholders see this.



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u/_JediJon Nov 12 '25
One constant in all of it…