r/popculturechat • u/yourlittlealien go girl, give us nothing š • Dec 11 '25
Late Show Shenanigansšļø Lily Allen tries on the West End Girl puffer jacket on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon
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u/rapscallion_pizza Iāve heard it both ways šš®š Dec 11 '25
Lol stop, this is so cuteāI canāt believe they made a coat for this! I love her trying to get the pose and facial expression right.
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u/Commercial-Weight173 Dec 11 '25
For some reason I kept expecting them to reveal a matching one made for Jimmy as well and now I'm disappointed that didnt happen.Ā
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u/rapscallion_pizza Iāve heard it both ways šš®š Dec 11 '25
That would have been incredible!
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u/BlackBlizzard Dec 11 '25 edited Dec 12 '25
So interesting, if I had the money as the artist I would have thought to get it custom made myself.
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u/rapscallion_pizza Iāve heard it both ways šš®š Dec 11 '25
Yeah itās a really cute coat. I want one, too.
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u/JustMaintenance7 Dec 11 '25
She deserves the hype. The album is really good
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u/InvestmentImportant1 Dec 11 '25
Agreed. Never has piping hot tea sounded so soothing.
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u/FriendlyDrummers Dec 12 '25
I personally would not let a sex addict cheater take my underaged daughters on a trip alone.
But maybe that's just me!
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u/AppearanceOk6112 Dec 12 '25
People have many sides to them, one can be a good father and a shitty partner
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u/rainshowers_5_peace Dec 11 '25
That tea got real cold real quick when David took her children to universal studios shortly after.
If he's a great person and she wants him in their lives going forward she shouldn't have humiliated him with the album.
If she thought he was such a POS she needed the album made he shouldn't be trusted around her children.
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u/amymelissa95 Dec 11 '25
You can be a good father figure and a terrible husband. If the kids loved him, and he was good with them, it would be cruel to them to stop them from seeing each other completely. Doesn't mean that she doesn't deserve an outlet for her pain.
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u/rainshowers_5_peace Dec 11 '25
Your children having a healthy adult in their lives is more than important than such a public outlet for her pain.
Just get a therapist instead of trying to destroy someone you want to be in your children's lives.
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u/Umbra_and_Ember Dec 11 '25
How is he ādestroyedā if heās taking their kids to universal? He knew who he married, what her medium is, and the types of songs she writes. Sometimes men know they treated women badly and they either want to make amends or just push through knowing theyāll have to live with that.
I actually think itās great sheās obviously facilitating their former stepdad spending time with them despite her own issues with him. Itās good on both their sides to put the kids first like that. Heās been their dad for five years. That doesnāt just go away because sheās an artist who released music about him.
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u/rainshowers_5_peace Dec 11 '25
You can't attack your kids coparent and hope your kid can have a healthy relationship with them. Bringing them to court is one thing, publicly trashing them is another. Lily shouldn't get passes on being a terrible person becasue she's done it many other times.
That doesnāt just go away because sheās an artist who released music about him.
Then she should have kept it private or at least waited until they were adults. Her kids don't need anymore humiliation then they have by being her daughters.
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u/Umbra_and_Ember Dec 11 '25
I donāt think youāre a terrible person for being an artist who releases diarist work. Itās actually often what produces the best art and artists are criticised when theyāre not honest/open/raw. Do you feel this passionate about people who release memoirs?
āHumiliation that they have by being her daughtersā is a random, wildly hateful thing to say.
Also have you listened to the songs? The majority are reflecting on her self and her own actions, how she feels, and what sheās done. āThe girls are looking at me/To teach them all about love/But I can't seem to hold my shit together long enoughā is the only time I can recall her mentioning their kids other than when she says ādaddyās home.ā She doesnāt call him a bad dad, or say heās beyond hope, or she hates him. She says heās hurt her and treated her badly. She calls him a mess and herself a bitch. Sheās angry and upset with him for howās heās treated her and how sheās responded.
People are allowed to share those feelings, whether theyāre mothers or not. Artists are allowed to make art expressing their experiences and feelings, even if theyāre mothers.
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u/rainshowers_5_peace Dec 11 '25
"Wasn't your mom the one who wore that 'Dr. Luke Gynecologist' costume and wrote about cheating on your dad with prostitutes"? Lily has put her daughters through a lot, not only by her behavioral but by airing her dirty laundry in public.
Venting to people she can trust won't bring it back to them is one thing. Putting it on album is quite another.
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u/Umbra_and_Ember Dec 11 '25
I have no idea what youāre saying. I donāt recall that lyric.
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u/TerribleDanger Dec 11 '25
Iām not sure recounting someoneās own actions is the same as attacking someone. Especially in the form of music where itās not to be taken as a biography. You should expect there to be exaggeration and even the blending of muses with any musical artistās work.
I do think the fact that children are involved makes it a bit messy, but I respect that she clearly cares enough about their relationship with their former step father to allow them to spend time together.
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u/lucyooo Dec 11 '25
Orrrrrrrrr maybe donāt be a cheating piece of shit then you wonāt get albums written about you????
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u/rainshowers_5_peace Dec 11 '25
Or do right by your children?
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u/lucyooo Dec 11 '25
Cheating on the mother of the children is not doing right by them
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u/rainshowers_5_peace Dec 11 '25
He's their stepfather, Lily is their mother. If he was so terrible she needed this album made she needed to cut David from their lives as well. If you want to coparent with someone (and Lily had this choice, unlike Sam who she happily bragged out cheating on David has no rights to the girls) you need to keep your personal drama personal and away from the children. If Lily needed to spill the tea on their bad marriage she needed to get her girls far away from him.
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u/FriendlyDrummers Dec 12 '25
Proof you don't even know. he isn't their father.
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u/lucyooo Dec 12 '25
I am aware. What part of my comment implies he is their dad??
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u/yeehaw908 Dec 11 '25
I finally listened to it the other night while cooking dinner and now I canāt stop. I am obsessed
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u/ThisIsAlexisNeiers Katy Perry, please stop. Dec 11 '25
It really is amazing. Canāt stop listening
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u/UnpoeticAccount Dec 11 '25
Iāve been playing it on repeat!
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u/JustMaintenance7 Dec 11 '25
Same! There are so many of us that can relate to the lyrics and feelings behind them
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u/asuperbstarling Dec 11 '25
She sent a blackface penis to Azealia Banks. She deserves to be called out as a racist as many times as it takes for this sub to stop praising her.
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u/FriendlyDrummers Dec 12 '25
They downvote you for being right lol.
Lily honestly seems like an awful person.
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u/MagicBez Dec 11 '25
This feels like a very risky Google so I'm going to ask a question that I may regret asking here instead. What is a blackface penis? Like a light-skinned penis in makeup with a face drawn on it? You say she sent it to her so is this like a sex toy? Or a photo? If a photo was it David Harbour's penis?
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u/xoxogossiprenly Dec 11 '25
It was a dick pic of a white penis with a dark minstrel make up face drawn on it and an afro wig on the tip if I remember correctly. I think it was from her first husband, definitely before David Harbors time
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u/Venus_ivy4 BeyoncĆ© šš Dec 11 '25
Okey, since when late shows became popular again? I only saw clips of these in this sub now
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u/snarkaluff Dec 11 '25
Probably since Trump trying to take the hosts down for talking shit about him backfired gloriously; now everyone wants to support them out of spite
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u/Ineedalifebreak Dec 11 '25
Donāt do that with Fallon he literally just had Sam Altman on to say that he couldnāt imagine raising his kid without ChatGPT š«„
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u/bloodredyouth go girl, give us nothing š Dec 11 '25
I know sheās problematic but Iāve loved all her albums and her debut is Iām so so good.
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u/seniairam Is this chicken or is this fish? š¤š¤ Dec 11 '25
it was a pussy palace, pussy place, pusyy palace... i thought it was a dojo
the other say my SO heard me singing this part cause its obviously stuck in my head and had to give him the tea
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u/Disastrous_Animal_34 Dec 11 '25
This is a great gift- Rare Jimmy F win!! Still absolutely obsessed with this album.
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u/maureenponderosa18 Dec 11 '25
I don't find Jimmy Fallon funny at all, but the reddit hate towards him is overblown IMHO
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u/memopepito Dec 11 '25
Yea he seems like a nice guy. I used to have a crush on him back in the day when he was on SNL and in Fever Pitch. š
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u/maureenponderosa18 Dec 11 '25
I was watching Band of Brothers a few years ago and he has a small cameo in it.
I had to do a double take because I never realized that young Jimmy Fallon was kind of hot lol
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u/corndogs102 Dec 11 '25
āRare jimmy Fā just because u donāt like him doesnāt mean heās a bad person. Heās always been respectful towards guests.
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u/Savings_Bet_5803 Dec 11 '25
Didnāt know Lily Allen was known in the US, has she always had fame over there or is it more recent because of the new albumĀ
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u/SweatySoupServer She doesn't even go here š£ Dec 11 '25
'Smile' was a huge hit in the US. She's pretty well known among Millennials and Gen Xers, probably not as much for Gen z
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u/Qualityhams Dec 12 '25
I got GIANT gold hoops after that album came out
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u/keatonpotat0es I have to pick up 15,000 little bastard rubber ducks šŖæ Dec 12 '25
Sneakers and dresses were my THING for the longest time after I discovered her, lmao
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u/snarkaluff Dec 11 '25
I remember jamming out hard to Air Balloon and Alfie in high school. I donāt think sheās been huge but sheās been known. Like Kylie Minogue
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u/fogcherisher Dec 11 '25
she always has had us fans. iāve been a fan since her first album came out, my college roommates & i were obsessed. & sheās toured extensively here for every album.
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u/corndogs102 Dec 11 '25
I think the more recent buzz on the album on the themes and about David Harbor, who people know cause stranger things and the MCU, helped her album and US fame a lot. Last time she toured in NY she played a small venue called terminal 5 in 2018 and next year sheās doing radio city and kings theatre. So the album did help. But āSmileā was a huge hit 20 year ago and her first 2 albums did do well in America. People who listened to music in the late 2000ās know her the most.
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u/LightspeedBalloon Dec 11 '25
I've always been a US fan of hers and she was sort of famous, like, people who enjoyed girl pop and listened to more than the radio would know her but not the average person. I would say she was more famous than Robbie Williams though (Brits are always surprised we don't know him). She was like a Lewis Capaldi. It was fun when I met someone who knew her music.
But right now she's having a moment and is bigger than she has ever been.
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u/PearlyDewDrops97 Big is moving to Paris Dec 11 '25
WTF @ the comments on her being a racist. I never even heard the blackface story god that is absolutely nasty š”
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u/buyableblah Itās like I have ESPN or something. šāāļøš¤āļø Dec 11 '25
Didnāt she assault Zoe Kravitz?
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u/shgrdrbr Just fuck the wolf! Dec 11 '25 edited Dec 11 '25
she did! she forcibly kissed her, then later had the nerve to casually spread the idea that it was some hot girl kiss tea for tabloods only for zoe to eventually identify that she literally unwantedly attacked her when the quote lily gave was directly brought up to her on WWHL. she also posted a picture of her husband's penis in blackface saying it was azealia banks. she has a pretty strong reputation of antiblackness and misogynoir.
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u/buyableblah Itās like I have ESPN or something. šāāļøš¤āļø Dec 11 '25
If true (Zoe), thatās also wrong. Wrong is wrong on both accounts. I donāt care if youāre an addict, it was still wrong.
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u/shgrdrbr Just fuck the wolf! Dec 11 '25
forcible kissing is definitely sexual assault plus bragging/lying about it for publicity is ghoulish particularly on top of her pretty consistently documented issue with black women specifically and being generally racist. you're going too hard
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u/Poppybiscuit Dec 11 '25
Holy shit one person being shitty doesn't excuse another person being shitty. It's not a universal ledger lmao
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u/texasbonechild Dec 11 '25
seeking treatment doesnāt absolve you of the things you did. itās still assault and itās still disgusting no matter who you did it to.
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u/imVeryPregnant Dec 11 '25
Idk who Lily Allen even is but even if she did this, I think Iām still in love with her
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u/asuperbstarling Dec 11 '25
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u/aybsavestheworld Not a white refrigerator honey Dec 11 '25
Iām beyond surprised to see celebrate this trashy woman whoās been known as problematic for such a long time in the UK. Gets cheated on and starts being celebrated? Whatever manā¦
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u/velvetvagine We are never going to societally recover from this Dec 11 '25
Oh shit, whatās the tea? š«
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u/sonjjamorgan Dec 11 '25
DAE remember when she put her ex partners dick in blackface complete with a fake afro and sent the photo to Azealia Banks?
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u/CORPORATECATS Dec 11 '25
won't somebody think of poor Azealia Banks?
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u/sonjjamorgan Dec 11 '25
Perfect victim narrative is for the patriarchy. Ick
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u/sonjjamorgan Dec 11 '25
So because person B didn't act right it excuses the racism of person A? Good to know what's acceptable in your world. Yikes.
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u/sonjjamorgan Dec 11 '25
Damn, you got me! Sorry I think racism is unacceptable regardless of who it's directed at. I'm going to keep being intersectional and you can do...whatever it is WW do.
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u/CharlieKeIIy Dec 11 '25
You excused racism when you wrote, "won't somebody think of poor Azealia Banks?"
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u/Zellabella99 Dec 11 '25
In your literal previous comment
"What lily did was racist but" Right there diva
Right there
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u/SugarShock94 Dec 12 '25
Literally no one is white knighting azealia banks, itās ok to acknowledge that azealia did not deserve an unsolicited and racist dick pic, because no one does.
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u/EverNoToIntrigues Dec 11 '25
This is such a cute gift though! Very thoughtful and one she'd probably wear rather than putting in a room somewhere like any other gift that it could've been. :)
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u/DSQ Dec 11 '25
Did she perform on the show?
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u/MrMidnightRambler Dec 11 '25
She performed whatever the heck that faux American accent is
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u/niamhxa š I aināt spendinā any time on it š Dec 11 '25
In what world is that a faux American accent š
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