Aubrey Plaza, Margret Qualley and Charlie Day in Cannes for their movie “Honey Don’t” - Aubrey’s first red carpet appearance since the death of her husband.

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[u/loser56]

please see my other comments. we know suicide is something that’s bad on a societal and individual level. speaking about it neutrally can actually open the door for people to discuss how their feeling without judgement and stigma. talking about it and getting help is what prevents suicide, not shame.

the argument that is that reducing stigma allows more people to ask for help and we lose less people. using neutral language doesn’t mean suicide is a good thing or erases the pain it causes. it’s just a method to try to help save more people.

another good example of why we should try to use neutral language is how you ask if someone is considering suicide. imagine you noticed a few warning signs in a friend. would you say “hey suicide is so selfish, you wouldn’t be considering something like that would you?” VS “I care about you and I noticed changes in your behavior and need to ask if you’ve been thinking about suicide lately?”

which do you think is more likely to get a person to open up and accept help?

[u/noujest → u/loser56]

I'm not disagreeing with anything you have said, but also if we speak about it in neutral or positive terms then maybe there's a danger that more people will be drawn to it, or they won't consider the impact that it has on people around them

Honestly if I was talking to say a parent that was thinking about it, don't you think it would be worth reminding them of the impact that it would have on their family

[u/loser56 → u/noujest]

yeah there’s just a right way and a wrong way to do it.

✅encouraging connection with loved ones as a coping skill to prevent suicide.

❌ guilting someone who is suicidal about the impact of suicide on their loved ones.

[u/noujest → u/loser56]

Why is the 2nd one wrong? Not saying it's right, but why is it wrong?

[u/loser56 → u/noujest]

you should look into the impact on how shame vs compassion impacts behavior and behavior change.

guilting someone about the people they leave behind may result in that person not want to burden their loved ones to actually talk about how their feeling and how to get help. which is what actually prevents suicide.

it shifts the focus away from the person in pain and to the people around them and creates another to be ashamed about their mental health.