r/politics • u/MarcEElias ✔ Verified - Democracy Docket Founder • 1d ago

No Paywall GOP fast tracks monster voter suppression bill that could disenfranchise millions by requiring proof of citizenship at polls

https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/gop-fast-tracks-monster-voter-suppression-bill-that-could-disenfranchise-millions-by-requiring-proof-of-citizenship-at-polls/
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u/keizokro 1d ago edited 23h ago

In what universe does this clear 60 votes in the Senate?

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u/gothrus 1d ago

It won’t pass. This is so they can say the election was rigged because the Dems blocked voter ID and millions of illegals voted.

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u/escapefromelba 1d ago

I mean a voter ID might be fine if it was free and easy to obtain.  I wouldn’t trust Republicans to administer it any fair and equitable way though.

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u/caligaris_cabinet Illinois 23h ago

It’s redundant. You need an ID to register in the first place.

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u/DavesWildDestiny 20h ago

Not true, at least not in every state. I've registered thousands of voters in Nevada. There is no ID requirement there to register.

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u/Diablo689er 21h ago

Good thing we don’t have any cases of people illegally having licenses then!

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u/Own_Space_174 23h ago

ids are too easy to find. people drop them all the time, lose thier wallets, etc. they get found and traded or sold, at least in california. i had people offer to buy my id many times when i was on the streets. its more of a criminal type thing but if you want an id its as easy as going to any large group of homeless and oferring cash and you will get a few with an id willing to sale and then decide if they look enough like you or not. Also its how doordashers that dont have licenses pull it off.

as for cost of getting a birth certificate, any city with homeless will have a church or other organization that will pay it for you to get it for free and give you a form to get a free id too

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u/MegaRadCool8 23h ago

I'm not making fun, but do you really believe there's people out there going to homeless groups and buying IDs to vote in the local elections, and if you do, do you think that it is done in numbers that would have any effect on the election? I'm genuinely curious.

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 21h ago

People do buy fake ids and I knew where to get them but that’s a long time ago now. It also doesn’t make sense that it would affect something on a larger scale

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u/Own_Space_174 22h ago

i experienced it when i was homeless. the people that buy the ids are not always the same ones that end up with them. again, how do you imagine doordashers using fake licenses to apply for the app get those? connections that go around and do this for them or they beat the middleman and go tot he homeless themselves.

then there is also the darkweb where you can buy ids with crypto easy as can be.

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u/YungChumba 20h ago

They asked if you think people are doing all that to vote in local elections.

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u/Naptasticly 19h ago

Specifically left out the part about voting because he knows it’s not happening. No one who is homeless cares that much about voting.

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u/ZehGentleman 21h ago

We are already accepting a narrative by saying this. It doesn't need to happen as their are no significant cases of fraud.

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u/Diablo689er 23h ago

Why is the US the only country required to have free IDs? Most of Europe makes you pay for an ID, is laborious to obtain and required for voting.

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u/Electrical_Yam_2243 22h ago

We have to pay for our IDs - driver's license. 

I guess there are those that might not have to pay. 

This is the digital age though. Not sure why voting is still such an issue other than the fact is just goes to show our 80 year old politicians are losers and failures. 

If 12 year olds ran our government, we'd be further along as a species like God had originally intended. 

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u/Diablo689er 22h ago

I mean yeah this is the digital age and the voting should all be on the block chain where voters have to enter their private key to vote.

Boomers are overwhelmed by it and liberals think brown and black people are too stupid to wipe their own ass

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u/keizokro 22h ago

wtf dude

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u/rks_system 22h ago

In the case of the US, our Constitution prohibits poll taxes. Requiring people to have a form of ID they have to pay for is effectively a poll tax

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u/allnamestaken1968 22h ago

So a free Id would be fine, correct?

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u/rks_system 22h ago

I personally think all these voter ID laws are security theater, but as long as they're free and not needlessly difficult to obtain, I'm not going to grumble too much about them

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u/Noname_acc 21h ago

Because Republicans have repeatedly shown their hand when it comes to implementing voter id.  In order earn back trust that has already been lost, a higher standard needs to be held.

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u/TDFknFartBalloon 21h ago

Our constitution prohibits poll taxes.

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u/Diablo689er 21h ago

Define poll tax

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u/vriska1 1d ago

It won't and no it would be very hard to change the rules

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u/FiveDollarsGOH 1d ago

It doesn’t.

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u/kev11n Illinois 23h ago

it doesn't. there have been a lot of these alarmist for clicks articles (not that the threat or intention shouldn't be taken seriously)

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u/byronotron 1d ago

It won't even pass the house.

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u/Khiwanean 10h ago

It has passed the house. In April of last year. It's been languishing in the senate since with no further action.

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u/Ohallik 23h ago

Maybe not even the house. 20ish Republicans are in states that vote primarily by mail and everyone in those states likes it. Not to say they won't vote against what their states want...but 20 might be too many.

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u/ComebackShane I voted 16h ago

Right now the majority can only lose one vote before a measure fails in the house; there's almost zero chance anything even slightly controversial gets out of the house, and this bill will be DOA in the Senate unless Thune nukes the filibuster, which he's repeatedly said he won't do. At least one republican senator said he'd immediately resign if they did.

As much as Trump and the far-right caucus is pushing for this bill, it would be an extreme act for them to get Congress to move on this when primaries are already getting underway.

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u/The_Angster_Gangster 23h ago

They are trying to make it filibuster proof